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Thread started 09/16/07 7:42am

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Phuket air disaster

It's not looking good. sad pray



Dozens killed in Thai plane crash

At least 66 people have died after a budget airliner crashed as it tried to land in heavy rain at the Thai holiday resort of Phuket, officials say.

It was carrying 123 passengers - many of them foreigners - and five crew.

The exact number of casualties is not clear, but Phuket's deputy governor said more than 40 survivors were being treated in hospital.

Flight OG 269, operated by airline One-Two-Go, was landing after flying from the capital, Bangkok.

Phuket Deputy Governor Worapot Ratthaseema said 66 people had been confirmed dead after the plane skidded off the runway in strong winds and driving rain on Sunday.

He added that 42 had been taken to hospital and the remainder were missing.


Hospital officials told AFP news agency that those injured included nationals from Australia, Austria, Britain, Iran, Ireland, Italy and the Netherlands.

More than half the passengers were reported to be foreigners.

There was an explosion and a fire as the McDonnell Douglas MD-82 landed.

Survivor Parinwit Chusaeng told Thai TV: "I saw passengers engulfed in fire as I stepped over them on the way out of the plane.

"I was afraid that the airplane was going to explode, so I ran away."

Both pilots are said to be among the survivors.

Rescue operations are under way at the airport and doctors are being flown to Phuket to treat the injured.

The flight, en route from Bangkok, was approaching Phuket airport when the pilot asked to abort the landing, aviation official Chiasak Angkauwan told Thai television.

"The control tower allowed it but the aircraft fell to the runway and the body broke," he said.

This is Thailand's deadliest aviation accident since December 1998, when 101 people were killed after a Thai Airways crashed on landing near another southern resort.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/h...997381.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2007/W...topstories
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/07 7:46am

missmad

Prayers to all the souls sad sad
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/07 7:46am

Imago

oh no neutral

Carrie, Karen, and I will be taking a plane from Bangkok to Pukhet in the next few months omfg



This is horrible. neutral



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Reply #3 posted 09/16/07 7:49am

Mach

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Reply #4 posted 09/16/07 7:49am

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The Bangkok Post is reporting 88 confirmed dead now, with at least 29 confirmed survivors. That leaves 11 others. 8 Brits are among the survivors and 2 Australians.
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Reply #5 posted 09/16/07 7:52am

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Imago said:

oh no neutral

Carrie, Karen, and I will be taking a plane from Bangkok to Pukhet in the next few months omfg



This is horrible. neutral



pray


It's terrible. Mon's mother shouted out to me early this afternoon after she caught something on Thai news. I looked on the internet and nothing was really known about it and now it's all starting to come through and it's looking pretty bad. sad

My parents, Mon and I, and my brother and his gf are flying to Phuket on November 11th.
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Reply #6 posted 09/16/07 7:59am

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They're talking about the weather and how bad it's been in Phuket of late, but survivors have been talking about loud bangs and strange noises before the plane touched down and it seems something else might have been going on besides the poor weather. I know they get some pretty rough weather on that coast during the monsoon season though. Also there are conflicting reports about whether the plane actually landed and then skidded off the runway or just crash landed.

What is it about this latter part of the year and things happening in Thailand? The tsunami, the coup, Bangkok NYE bombings, now this. sad
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Reply #7 posted 09/16/07 8:16am

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Ok, they're saying 87 deaths and 43 survivors (7 crew members, not 5, onboard). Let's hope that's how it stays. They'd feared 90% could perish. I just can't imagine how all the frantic relatives, and the grieving ones, must feel. And Phuket is dealt another blow.

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Reply #8 posted 09/16/07 8:24am

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Truly, truly awful.

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Reply #9 posted 09/16/07 8:30am

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fhqwhgads said:

Also there are conflicting reports about whether the plane actually landed and then skidded off the runway or just crash landed.


I heard an interview with a Swedish survivor and he said that he knew something was wrong when the pilot kept making speed corrections during the approach. When they got in over the runway they were much too high above the ground. Then, at the last minute, the pilot retracted the landing gear, presumably to go up and around again to come in properly, but instead of rising they just kept sinking until they hit the ground. At least that's what this guy said.

What is it about this latter part of the year and things happening in Thailand? The tsunami, the coup, Bangkok NYE bombings, now this. sad


Yeah, you guys have definitely endured more than your fair share of tragedies.
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Reply #10 posted 09/16/07 8:43am

Muse2NOPharaoh

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Reply #11 posted 09/16/07 8:45am

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retina said:

fhqwhgads said:

Also there are conflicting reports about whether the plane actually landed and then skidded off the runway or just crash landed.


I heard an interview with a Swedish survivor and he said that he knew something was wrong when the pilot kept making speed corrections during the approach. When they got in over the runway they were much too high above the ground. Then, at the last minute, the pilot retracted the landing gear, presumably to go up and around again to come in properly, but instead of rising they just kept sinking until they hit the ground. At least that's what this guy said.

What is it about this latter part of the year and things happening in Thailand? The tsunami, the coup, Bangkok NYE bombings, now this. sad


Yeah, you guys have definitely endured more than your fair share of tragedies.


Yes, it certainly now sounds like they didn't land properly and then skid off the runway as some witnesses had said but that they crash landed. A Thai passenger spoke about how it felt like the pilot was trying to pull back up at the last minute. What's up with the banging noises on the approach though? I can't believe it when I hear of people angry about delays and cancelations to their flights. I mean, have a heart. disbelief

Thailand's already causing itself enough problems without these kinds of things happening too. Nothing seems to be going right for the Land of Smiles lately.
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Reply #12 posted 09/16/07 8:55am

retina

fhqwhgads said:

Yes, it certainly now sounds like they didn't land properly and then skid off the runway as some witnesses had said but that they crash landed. A Thai passenger spoke about how it felt like the pilot was trying to pull back up at the last minute. What's up with the banging noises on the approach though?


No idea. The Swedish guy didn't mention any of that, he just said that the pilot was rushing the engine and seemed to have trouble finding the right approach speed. Lucky thing that the guy and his friend were sitting right next to the emergency exit door. I always try to pick those seats anyway because they have better leg room, but it's always been in the back of my mind that it could be useful for other reasons too...

I can't believe it when I hear of people angry about delays and cancelations to their flights. I mean, have a heart. disbelief


Empathy and decency are in short supply all over the world. nod

Anyway, I'm glad that nobody from your family was in the crash.
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Reply #13 posted 09/16/07 9:01am

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retina said:

fhqwhgads said:

Yes, it certainly now sounds like they didn't land properly and then skid off the runway as some witnesses had said but that they crash landed. A Thai passenger spoke about how it felt like the pilot was trying to pull back up at the last minute. What's up with the banging noises on the approach though?


No idea. The Swedish guy didn't mention any of that, he just said that the pilot was rushing the engine and seemed to have trouble finding the right approach speed. Lucky thing that the guy and his friend were sitting right next to the emergency exit door. I always try to pick those seats anyway because they have better leg room, but it's always been in the back of my mind that it could be useful for other reasons too...

I can't believe it when I hear of people angry about delays and cancelations to their flights. I mean, have a heart. disbelief


Empathy and decency are in short supply all over the world. nod

Anyway, I'm glad that nobody from your family was in the crash.


Thanks. No doubt my parents will be freaking out a bit having recently booked their flights to Phuket. No doubt some will refer to the fact that it's a budget airline, but it's the first crash in Thailand for a no-frills carrier, though it must be said we've only had them here for maybe 5 years. (scrap that, just read this on Yahoo: 'The crash is the latest to hit the booming budget airline industry in Asia, which has been seen its rapid growth sometimes overshadowed a serious of accidents in the recent years'). I'm reading conflicting reports. I think they're referring to Indonesian crashes.

They're now seeming to be getting on top of lists of survivors and the casualties and the identities of those on board. Quite how there's so much confusion over who was on board and how many people baffles me a bit but I guess there's a lot of confusion. There's now some concern over One-To-Go's insurance unfortunately. They, and Phuket's tourism, will take another big hit now, but then that's really not the concern at the moment.

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Reply #14 posted 09/16/07 9:21am

fhqwhgads

I only just found out this afternoon about Colin McCrae's helicopter crash too. And his 5 year old son was on board with his friend. Terrible. sad McCrae was only 39 years old.
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Reply #15 posted 09/16/07 9:37am

fhqwhgads

When you see this it just breaks your heart.

20.Mr Colin Denny
21.Mrs Sawitree Denny*

42.Mr Chowalert Jitjamnong*
43.Mrs Siriphut Jitjamnong


sad
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Reply #16 posted 09/16/07 10:55am

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oh nick this is terrible... sad
it just sounds so strange. noises and landing gear and aborted landing.
hopefully the surviving pilots can help explain what happened.

one canadian survived...
Mildred Anne Furlong, 23, of Prince George, B.C.,... said she couldn't believe she walked away from the wreckage.
"Really looking at the footage on the news, I can't believe anybody did. It looks so bad," she told The Canadian Press in an interview from Phuket International Hospital. "There was only a few of us that got out on our own. It's amazing that I was one of them.''
doveShe couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay dove
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Reply #17 posted 09/16/07 11:01am

fhqwhgads

emm said:

oh nick this is terrible... sad
it just sounds so strange. noises and landing gear and aborted landing.
hopefully the surviving pilots can help explain what happened.

one canadian survived...
Mildred Anne Furlong, 23, of Prince George, B.C.,... said she couldn't believe she walked away from the wreckage.
"Really looking at the footage on the news, I can't believe anybody did. It looks so bad," she told The Canadian Press in an interview from Phuket International Hospital. "There was only a few of us that got out on our own. It's amazing that I was one of them.''


I think more survived than they at first thought would, which is something at least. Looking at the photos it really is a miracle that over 40 seem to have survived considering how the fires took hold.

They're getting very critical of budget airlines in S.E. Asia in general now, but nearly all of the problems have been in Indonesia. Mon and I always fly with Air Asia as they have new planes unlike nearly all the other cheap carriers in the region. Still, sounds like the awful weather might've been the main factor here.
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Reply #18 posted 09/16/07 1:24pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

My mom just called... noted a plane went down there... She hates all my travel... worries her...
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Reply #19 posted 09/16/07 2:05pm

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sad
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Reply #20 posted 09/16/07 2:27pm

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Plane crashes are just so sad.

rose
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Reply #21 posted 09/16/07 2:27pm

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rose
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Reply #22 posted 09/16/07 5:29pm

shanti0608

pray
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Reply #23 posted 09/16/07 6:01pm

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pray rose
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #24 posted 09/17/07 12:47am

Ocean

I only just heard about this on the way home this afternoon sad pray rose
..they were saying that a Australian guy survived and he was also a surviver of the boxing day tsuanami ....not sure how true those facts are..but if its true someone is watching over him
pray rose
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Reply #25 posted 09/17/07 6:13pm

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Ocean said:

I only just heard about this on the way home this afternoon sad pray rose
..they were saying that a Australian guy survived and he was also a surviver of the boxing day tsuanami ....not sure how true those facts are..but if its true someone is watching over him
pray rose
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A 'saint in yellow' perhaps. I think that Aussie is the guy who has been speaking about a Thai man who pulled him out. The Thai was wearing a yellow polo shirt as many do here to honour the king.

Ah, here it is, from the Bangkok Post.

The Australian press is reporting that Robert Borland, on fire and covered in aviation fuel, was dragged from the blazing wreckage of the Phuket plane crash by a Thai passenger he calls the "saint in yellow".


"The Thai man with a yellow T-shirt dragged me out on to the wing. He was like a saint to me," he said.

The 48-year-old, who grew up in Perth, has been living and working in Thailand for 12 years and was on the island on Boxing Day 2004 when the tsunami hit. On Sunday, he was returning to Phuket after travelling to Bangkok and Singapore on business.

"It's impossible to describe how lucky I was," he said.

The story described the crash, and then had this description of Mr Borland's escape:

Although he was suffering a broken and dislocated left arm, back injuries and burns to his legs, Mr Borland, who was sitting in seat 24F, managed to push open the emergency exit window next to him.

"I pulled the hatch but then realised there was an inferno outside, so I pushed it back and fell to the floor," he said.

"I crawled over to the other side where there was another exit and at that time I realised my trousers were on fire. I crawled to the exit door but couldn't raise myself to get out. Then the Thai man with a yellow T-shirt dragged me out on to the wing. I slid down to the ground and saw others coming out of the exit.


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