SkletonKee said:

I remember because that's part of the debate. Though, I DO think I understand what you're saying in general about the issue. That post was just my way of meddling.

SkletonKee said:

because MONEY is success, that's how you know you are meeting ALL targeted demographics... I would love for you to break down Eric La Salles and Cheadles salary and how many white people see their " movie " notice there is no S lol

Monsters Ball was a great movie. I can't believe that anyone would consider this to be porn. If you think this is porn JMG1, you don't know porn. Halle was great in this movie and so was Billy Bob. In regards to "boys don't cry", all I can say is WOW. Hilary Swank was amazing. This movie almost didn't get made and even when it did, it has very little theatrical release. It's a very hard movie to watch, but Hilary did it with style

KEE - you are absolutely on f*cking point all over this thread!!!

kisscamille said:

okay, than explain all the sex scenes and their purpose and ALSO EXPLAIN how those emotions could not be expressed any other way... please be detailed with your explanations

feltbluish said:

That's because youre not black.

JMG1 said:

NO..money isnt the sole measure of success...Don Cheadle *picks* roles that allow him to grow as an actor...

Eric La Salle appeared in an indi-film...People get paid scale (if anything) to appear in quality indi films...sometime creed is more important then green...





damn that racists edit..
[This message was edited Mon Oct 7 12:17:28 PDT 2002 by SkletonKee]

SkletonKee said:

For the most part, Cheadle picks the roles that allow him to make a living in the acting profession. From the Cheadle's mouth. He's been frustrated and has admitted it.

Wolf said:

Supernova said:

yeah but..this is the same guy who asked to have his name removed from Ocean's Eleven because he thought it was a subpar effort...

if you ask me, the guy has mr crappy crap syndrome...

Wolf said:

So my viewpoints don't count right?

feltbluish said:

not me...who dat?

Wolf said:

All I'm doing is agreeing with someone else's stance (who happens to be black)

SkletonKee said:

Eh? What's Mr. Crappy Crap Syndrome?

Supernova said:

really??? money does not mean success in hollywood? so Julia roberts gets LESS money for every movie that goes well? Wow, ur logic is sooo accurate it is scary! lollol

JMG1 said:

actually, Lil Julia took a huge pay cut to star in Ocean's Eleven, The Mexican, Full Frontal *and* her upcoming film...


why? because she understands that her long term credibility as an actress far outways her *current* bankroll...


supernova, help me out here..you can articulate much better then i...






thank you for this edit!!!
[This message was edited Mon Oct 7 13:02:54 PDT 2002 by SkletonKee]

Supernova said:

crabby crab...

i need to get back to work...oye!!!

SkletonKee said:

she sure did!!! because she has the *choice* of doing so... ask lela rechon or vivica a. fox or nia long if they have ever even been **OFFERED** a 20 million dollar pay check for any movie and they would laugh at you! like I said white actors have the options of doing whatever they want cuz they have plenty of reprensentation for every different character out there, for the funny ones, serious, murderers, hunks, for sluts, for sweet hearts, for the fat and for the skinny black actors do NOT... not only that Julia can demand a 20 million dollar paycheck when ever she decides she wants it back for *any* future project

dude...vivica fox, nia long and lela rochin are b-star actors...

Queen Latifah has built a good diverse body of work...Ditto Angela Bassett and Lynn Winfield...


to use Julia Roberts as an example is laughable..She is one of three woman who can bankroll a movie..period..Julia, Sandra Bullock and now Reese Witherspoon...So yeah, when it comes to woman, hollywood sucks...yeah, diversity sucks for woman roles...Why do you think Michelle Pfieffer has appeared in less and less roles...ditto Sharon Stone. Ageism is a major problem in Hollywood too (for women)...

but, to say its a *black* thang is wrong...Vivica shouldnt have appeared in horrible subgrade tv shows if she wanted to hold on to the momentum she gained after Independence Day and Sett It Off...

and if you want to complain about the lack of roles for black woman, do what Michelle has been forced to do..create your own production team and make your own films..It works for Kasi Lemmons...

JMG1 said:

I dont think you meant to quote me, because your questions don't make sense in the context of my quote. If you did, I have no idea what you're getting at. I never said anything about money. My logic is fine, dear.

SkletonKee said:

You said it perfectly. Nothing for me to add there.

SkletonKee said:

And I agree with you there too. We've have this convo before and I said the same thing, in different words. I bring it up whenever I can to people who'll listen. Tim Reid knows what time it is. There are plenty of Blacks in the entertainment field who should pool their resources to create more opportunities for themselves that aren't already there. Though I have a beef with Hollywood in general about this issue, the Black entertainment community within the film industry (which admittedly is small comparatively to the entire whole) should feel that the onus is on themselves too - because they have the capital to make things better for themselves.