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wlcm2thdwn

Women like Bulldog faced men!

WTF?!
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Bryner
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LiveScience.com
Thu Aug 23, 12:35 PM ET



Guys with bulldog-like faces have been chick magnets throughout human evolutionary history.

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A recent study of the skulls of human ancestors and modern humans finds that women, and thereby, evolution, selected for males with relatively short upper faces. The region between the brow and the upper-lip is scrunched proportionately to the overall size of their heads.


Among the men who fit the bill: Will Smith and Brad Pitt.


In a past study, researchers found a similar facial pattern in chimpanzees, with males having relatively shorter and broader faces compared with females, controlling for body size.


Men with "mini mugs" might have been most attractive to the opposite sex and thus most likely to attract mates for reproduction, passing along the striking features to the next generation and so forth, said lead study author Eleanor Weston, a paleontologist at the Natural History Museum in London.


"The evolution of facial appearance is central to understanding what makes men and women attractive to each other," Weston said. "We have found the distance between the lip and brow was probably immensely important to what made us attractive in the past, as it does now."


Whereas past studies have suggested facial symmetry and facial masculinity play roles in this game of desire, none have provided evidence of an evolutionary shaping of male and female faces.


"I think it's a very nice approach," said Randy Thornhill, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of New Mexico, referring to the study. Though not involved in it, Thornhill agrees with the finding that certain facial features evolved due to sexual selection.


Facial coordinates


The researchers calculated certain facial coordinates on 68 males and 53 female skulls from a contemporary native southern Africa population ranging in age from infant to 30 years old. Measurements included distances between the point between the eye brows and upper lip and from cheekbone to cheekbone.


Weston and her colleagues also examined facial data from fossil hominin skulls dating back to 2.6 million years ago, unearthed in Kenyan deposits as part of the Koobi Fora Research Project IV. These skulls represented five species: Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Paranthropus boisei, Australopithecus africanus and Paranthropus robustus. These facial coordinates were then compared with the contemporary coordinates.


In spite of their bulkier bodies (about 15 percent more massive than women's bodies), and similarly broader faces, men have upper faces similar in height to women's faces, the scientists found. But compared with the rest of the head, a guy's mid-face is compressed. The differences held throughout human history.


A simple ratio of upper face length to broadness could serve as a proxy for facial attractiveness, the scientists say in a report on their research published in the online journal PLoS ONE.


Masculine appeal


The scientists are not certain why today's distinctive male face and its proportions evolved.


"A shorter upper face does serve to exaggerate the size of other face features such as the flare of the cheeks and the size of the jaw, but this might not be why it developed," Weston told LiveScience. "Rather the shorter [and] broader the male face the more ‘masculine’ and the less ‘feminine'—based on biological face changes that take place during growth and development—the individual becomes," she said.


Also, this facial development was accompanied by a shrinking of guys' canine teeth, so men appeared less threatening to competitors, yet attractive to mates.


While the scientists who authored the current study examined skulls and did not specifically study how modern faces fit the findings, the Natural History Museum press officers applied Weston's findings to a "quick and dirty" survey of photos of celebrities.

They came up with a list of stars with masculine faces, listing them from most to least masculine according to facial dimensions: Will Smith, Peter Andre, Justin Timberlake, Thierry Henry, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Johnny Depp and Kanye West.
[Edited 8/24/07 9:04am]
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Reply #1 posted 08/24/07 9:04am

PANDURITO

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Among the men who fit the bill: Will Smith and Brad Pitt.

lol
Brad Pittbull

lol
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Reply #2 posted 08/24/07 9:06am

wlcm2thdwn

I don't think so. All of those men are gorgeous and women Love handsome men. This story is CRAZY! nuts
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Reply #3 posted 08/24/07 9:07am

horatio

there is nothing attractive about kanye west


the only thing that looks bulldog like is his puffy sagging jowles.
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Reply #4 posted 08/24/07 9:07am

JustErin

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We like this??



I don't think so. lol
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Reply #5 posted 08/24/07 9:09am

wlcm2thdwn

^^No-Way! lol That's hilarious but Kanye looks nice when he's dressed up.
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Reply #6 posted 08/24/07 9:10am

horatio

i always think that men with longer faces
like most french
are the most attractive.

like the guy in the movie Amelie (her love)
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Reply #7 posted 08/24/07 9:17am

veronikka

JustErin said:

We like this??



I don't think so. lol



The dog is cute but a man looking like that no way!!!
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Reply #8 posted 08/24/07 9:19am

eraclito

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veronikka said:

JustErin said:

We like this??



I don't think so. lol



The dog is cute but a man looking like that no way!!!


woof razz
are you ready for submission

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Reply #9 posted 08/24/07 9:30am

veronikka

eraclito said:

veronikka said:




The dog is cute but a man looking like that no way!!!


woof razz



eek



lol
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Reply #10 posted 08/24/07 9:36am

wlcm2thdwn

This dog can bite me when ever he likes
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Reply #11 posted 08/24/07 9:37am

horatio

wlcm2thdwn said:

This dog can bite me when ever he likes



he isnt cute no more

if they let him show his real age then you'd see hes OLD


and usually thats what makes anyone attractive is their youth.
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Reply #12 posted 08/24/07 9:41am

wlcm2thdwn

I just saw him on the news this morning, he's building houses for the People that were devasted and left homeless from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. He is definetly still cute and getting ready to make another movie about Jesse James. Youth doesn't make you attractive when you grow up you will find out. by the way, I'm Older than he is. smile
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Reply #13 posted 08/24/07 9:55am

horatio

wlcm2thdwn said:

I just saw him on the news this morning, he's building houses for the People that were devasted and left homeless from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. He is definetly still cute and getting ready to make another movie about Jesse James. Youth doesn't make you attractive when you grow up you will find out. by the way, I'm Older than he is. smile
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in hollywood youth is important other wise he and the rest of the industry wouldnt go to the lengths that they do to maintain a youthful apperance.
Even Prince.
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Reply #14 posted 08/24/07 10:03am

RodeoSchro

wlcm2thdwn said:

I just saw him on the news this morning, he's building houses for the People that were devasted and left homeless from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. He is definetly still cute and getting ready to make another movie about Jesse James. Youth doesn't make you attractive when you grow up you will find out. by the way, I'm Older than he is. smile
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Say what you want about Brad Pitt, but I certainly admire his devotion to helping other people. Same holds true for Angelina Jolie. I know she's a freak, but she genuinely cares about others.

I think they are refreshing.

BTW, I didn't mean to imply you were saying anything bad about Brad Pitt.
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Reply #15 posted 08/24/07 10:09am

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They came up with a list of stars with masculine faces, listing them from most to least masculine according to facial dimensions: Will Smith, Peter Andre, Justin Timberlake, Thierry Henry, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Johnny Depp and Kanye West.

falloff

bunch of pampered hollywood sissies wearing make up and gucci slippers at home

yeah, real masculine smile
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #16 posted 08/24/07 10:12am

horatio

IstenSzek said:

They came up with a list of stars with masculine faces, listing them from most to least masculine according to facial dimensions: Will Smith, Peter Andre, Justin Timberlake, Thierry Henry, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Johnny Depp and Kanye West.

falloff

bunch of pampered hollywood sissies wearing make up and gucci slippers at home

yeah, real masculine smile



falloff
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Reply #17 posted 08/24/07 10:14am

JustErin

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horatio said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

This dog can bite me when ever he likes



he isnt cute no more

if they let him show his real age then you'd see hes OLD


and usually thats what makes anyone attractive is their youth.


Yes, he is cute now... I think more so actually. I just saw a new interview with him the other morning.

Yum.
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Reply #18 posted 08/24/07 10:31am

veronikka

wlcm2thdwn said:

This dog can bite me when ever he likes



I never thought he was all that great looking until I saw hin in Troy and I saw that bare booty drool
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Reply #19 posted 08/24/07 10:32am

horatio

veronikka said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

This dog can bite me when ever he likes



I never thought he was all that great looking until I saw hin in Troy and I saw that bare booty drool



he's a poofster
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Reply #20 posted 08/24/07 10:37am

JustErin

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horatio said:

veronikka said:




I never thought he was all that great looking until I saw hin in Troy and I saw that bare booty drool



he's a poofster


What's that mean?
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Reply #21 posted 08/24/07 10:39am

JDInteractive

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Winston...he so hot right now.
There's Joy In Expatriation.
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Reply #22 posted 08/24/07 10:39am

eraclito

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JustErin said:

horatio said:




he's a poofster


What's that mean?


it means horatio is a bit weird nod
are you ready for submission

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Reply #23 posted 08/24/07 10:40am

JDInteractive

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wlcm2thdwn said:

WTF?!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/l...ikecavemen
Bryner
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Thu Aug 23, 12:35 PM ET



Guys with bulldog-like faces have been chick magnets throughout human evolutionary history.

ADVERTISEMENT

A recent study of the skulls of human ancestors and modern humans finds that women, and thereby, evolution, selected for males with relatively short upper faces. The region between the brow and the upper-lip is scrunched proportionately to the overall size of their heads.


Among the men who fit the bill: Will Smith and Brad Pitt.


In a past study, researchers found a similar facial pattern in chimpanzees, with males having relatively shorter and broader faces compared with females, controlling for body size.


Men with "mini mugs" might have been most attractive to the opposite sex and thus most likely to attract mates for reproduction, passing along the striking features to the next generation and so forth, said lead study author Eleanor Weston, a paleontologist at the Natural History Museum in London.


"The evolution of facial appearance is central to understanding what makes men and women attractive to each other," Weston said. "We have found the distance between the lip and brow was probably immensely important to what made us attractive in the past, as it does now."


Whereas past studies have suggested facial symmetry and facial masculinity play roles in this game of desire, none have provided evidence of an evolutionary shaping of male and female faces.


"I think it's a very nice approach," said Randy Thornhill, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of New Mexico, referring to the study. Though not involved in it, Thornhill agrees with the finding that certain facial features evolved due to sexual selection.


Facial coordinates


The researchers calculated certain facial coordinates on 68 males and 53 female skulls from a contemporary native southern Africa population ranging in age from infant to 30 years old. Measurements included distances between the point between the eye brows and upper lip and from cheekbone to cheekbone.


Weston and her colleagues also examined facial data from fossil hominin skulls dating back to 2.6 million years ago, unearthed in Kenyan deposits as part of the Koobi Fora Research Project IV. These skulls represented five species: Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Paranthropus boisei, Australopithecus africanus and Paranthropus robustus. These facial coordinates were then compared with the contemporary coordinates.


In spite of their bulkier bodies (about 15 percent more massive than women's bodies), and similarly broader faces, men have upper faces similar in height to women's faces, the scientists found. But compared with the rest of the head, a guy's mid-face is compressed. The differences held throughout human history.


A simple ratio of upper face length to broadness could serve as a proxy for facial attractiveness, the scientists say in a report on their research published in the online journal PLoS ONE.


Masculine appeal


The scientists are not certain why today's distinctive male face and its proportions evolved.


"A shorter upper face does serve to exaggerate the size of other face features such as the flare of the cheeks and the size of the jaw, but this might not be why it developed," Weston told LiveScience. "Rather the shorter [and] broader the male face the more ‘masculine’ and the less ‘feminine'—based on biological face changes that take place during growth and development—the individual becomes," she said.


Also, this facial development was accompanied by a shrinking of guys' canine teeth, so men appeared less threatening to competitors, yet attractive to mates.


While the scientists who authored the current study examined skulls and did not specifically study how modern faces fit the findings, the Natural History Museum press officers applied Weston's findings to a "quick and dirty" survey of photos of celebrities.

They came up with a list of stars with masculine faces, listing them from most to least masculine according to facial dimensions: Will Smith, Peter Andre, Justin Timberlake, Thierry Henry, Brad Pitt, David Beckham, Johnny Depp and Kanye West.
[Edited 8/24/07 9:04am]


Bryner is a wanker. How on Earth has this person got the time to write such meaningless shite?
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Reply #24 posted 08/24/07 10:41am

horatio

eraclito said:

JustErin said:



What's that mean?


it means horatio is a bit weird nod



Just because you and Rob Schneider look like clones of each other

doesnt make me weird.

lol
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Reply #25 posted 08/24/07 10:42am

horatio

JDInteractive said:



Winston...he so hot right now.



lol
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Reply #26 posted 08/24/07 10:48am

eraclito

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horatio said:

eraclito said:



it means horatio is a bit weird nod



Just because you and Rob Schneider look like clones of each other

doesnt make me weird.

lol


aaah now i get your joke mad
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Reply #27 posted 08/24/07 10:56am

JustErin

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eraclito said:

horatio said:




Just because you and Rob Schneider look like clones of each other

doesnt make me weird.

lol


aaah now i get your joke mad


falloff
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Reply #28 posted 08/24/07 10:58am

eraclito

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JustErin said:

eraclito said:



aaah now i get your joke mad


falloff


chut it u...
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Reply #29 posted 08/24/07 4:29pm

savoirfaire

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wlcm2thdwn said:

I just saw him on the news this morning, he's building houses for the People that were devasted and left homeless from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. He is definetly still cute and getting ready to make another movie about Jesse James. Youth doesn't make you attractive when you grow up you will find out. by the way, I'm Older than he is. smile
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Getting ready to make a movie?

He made that here, where I live, about 2 years ago... No clue when it'll be coming out.
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