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Thread started 10/07/02 2:26pm

Heavenly

Dumb question

Why is it ok to kill trees to build guitars, yet not ok to kill animals for food?
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Reply #1 posted 10/07/02 2:30pm

Natsume

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"There is currently no reason to believe that plants experience pain, devoid as they are of central nervous systems, nerve endings, and brains. It is theorized that the main reason animals have the ability to experience pain is as a form of self-protection. If you touch something that hurts and could possibly injure you, you will learn from the pain it produces to leave it alone in the future. Since plants cannot locomote and do not have the need to learn to avoid certain things, this sensation would be superfluous.

Plants are completely different physiologically from mammals. Unlike animals' body parts, many perennial plants, fruits, and vegetables can be harvested over and over again without resulting in the death of the plant or tree.

If one is concerned about the impact of vegetable agriculture on the environment, a vegetarian diet is still preferable to a meat-based one, since the vast majority of grains and legumes raised today are used as feed for cattle. By eating vegetables directly, rather than eating animals such as cows who must consume 16 pounds of vegetation in order to convert them into 1 pound of flesh, one is saving many more plants' lives (and destroying less land)."

Courtesy of PETA.
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #2 posted 10/07/02 2:37pm

Heavenly

so if the killing doesn't involve pain, it's ok to kill?
If we kill the animal without it feeling any pain, does it make it OK then?
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Reply #3 posted 10/07/02 2:38pm

SkletonKee

Heavenly said:

so if the killing doesn't involve pain, it's ok to kill?
If we kill the animal without it feeling any pain, does it make it OK then?



lol


no, but that new fur coat would sure look good on you wink
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Reply #4 posted 10/07/02 2:39pm

BattierBeMyDad
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Heavenly said:

so if the killing doesn't involve pain, it's ok to kill?
If we kill the animal without it feeling any pain, does it make it OK then?


I didn't read Natsume's post, past the first line.

If I killed say, Natsume, in a very painless death, would it be okay? rolleyes I doubt it. I'd still be sent to prison to be somebody's wife.
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Reply #5 posted 10/07/02 2:41pm

Natsume

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Hey, you said it yourself, tis a dumb question

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I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #6 posted 10/08/02 1:24pm

PlastikLuvAffa
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Natsume said:

"There is currently no reason to believe that plants experience pain, devoid as they are of central nervous systems, nerve endings, and brains. It is theorized that the main reason animals have the ability to experience pain is as a form of self-protection. If you touch something that hurts and could possibly injure you, you will learn from the pain it produces to leave it alone in the future. Since plants cannot locomote and do not have the need to learn to avoid certain things, this sensation would be superfluous.

Plants are completely different physiologically from mammals. Unlike animals' body parts, many perennial plants, fruits, and vegetables can be harvested over and over again without resulting in the death of the plant or tree.

If one is concerned about the impact of vegetable agriculture on the environment, a vegetarian diet is still preferable to a meat-based one, since the vast majority of grains and legumes raised today are used as feed for cattle. By eating vegetables directly, rather than eating animals such as cows who must consume 16 pounds of vegetation in order to convert them into 1 pound of flesh, one is saving many more plants' lives (and destroying less land)."

Courtesy of PETA.

tomatoes still cry, i bet. neutral
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Reply #7 posted 10/08/02 1:46pm

Lleena

When you bite into a juicy tomato it squeals with delight big grin
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Reply #8 posted 10/08/02 1:55pm

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Lleena said:

When you bite into a juicy tomato it squeals with delight big grin


"yipp-eee!!!" lol
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Reply #9 posted 10/08/02 2:00pm

Lleena

lollollollollollollol
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Reply #10 posted 10/08/02 4:16pm

OCEANA

confuse Good question Heavenly! IMHO...Tree's feel no pain and have no heart...Where as in animals do. But each to his own opinion...BUT if I can eat tree's I would rather than chicken...I dont eat pork or red meat just that lil ole bird that crossed the road...lol only the one that did not make it though...LOL!
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Reply #11 posted 10/08/02 10:52pm

MrBlues

Heavenly said:

Why is it ok to kill trees to build guitars, yet not ok to kill animals for food?


cause guitars r cool! duuuh.. it'd be ok to kill people to make guitars if that's what it took
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Reply #12 posted 10/08/02 10:54pm

MrBlues

Heavenly said:

so if the killing doesn't involve pain, it's ok to kill?
If we kill the animal without it feeling any pain, does it make it OK then?


yes...except 4 my dog..and my mother's cat..she really likes that cat
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