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Thread started 08/15/07 10:47am

Anxiety

Ugh, my landlord is going to start showing my apartment

Ok, Org legal beagles, pranksters, ointment flies and troublemakers...how do I keep this from happening?

I have three more weeks in this schmuck's building and I've been his tenant for six years. I think I deserve the dignity of three uninterrupted weeks.

PLUS, he informed me that he would be showing the apartment with no advance notice. YES, he actually said it in so many words.

I don't know about the legality of all this. I'm sure he has the right to give me a Dirty Sanchez if he wants, since he's a landlord and landlords have the God-given right to violate their tenants as they see fit.

But I can always make it REALLY unpleasant for him, and I'm more than willing to burn a bridge or two if he gets out of hand with this nonsense.

Has anyone else been through this? Any advice?
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Reply #1 posted 08/15/07 10:49am

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Anxiety said:

Ok, Org legal beagles, pranksters, ointment flies and troublemakers...how do I keep this from happening?

I have three more weeks in this schmuck's building and I've been his tenant for six years. I think I deserve the dignity of three uninterrupted weeks.

PLUS, he informed me that he would be showing the apartment with no advance notice. YES, he actually said it in so many words.

I don't know about the legality of all this. I'm sure he has the right to give me a Dirty Sanchez if he wants, since he's a landlord and landlords have the God-given right to violate their tenants as they see fit.

But I can always make it REALLY unpleasant for him, and I'm more than willing to burn a bridge or two if he gets out of hand with this nonsense.

Has anyone else been through this? Any advice?



Are you moving in with your boy friend? sad
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Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
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Reply #2 posted 08/15/07 10:49am

Lothan

Hold on for two seconds.
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Reply #3 posted 08/15/07 10:50am

Anxiety

Lothan said:

Hold on for two seconds.



eek
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Reply #4 posted 08/15/07 10:51am

Anxiety

TotalANXiousNESS said:




Are you moving in with your boy friend? sad



mr.green

and he's gonna be staying at my place quite a bit over the next few weeks.

if you know what i mean.
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Reply #5 posted 08/15/07 10:51am

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Lothan said:

Hold on for two seconds.


Is there someone at the door?
It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?
If it ain't, it'll do till the mess gets here
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Reply #6 posted 08/15/07 10:52am

Slave2daGroove

As a landlord, I can tell you that he has to give you advance warning.
It's a state law in Michigan, I'm not sure about Il.
Check your lease and see if anything is spelled out there.

If all else fails, call a locksmith and tell them that you want to "re-key" your locks. Basically, they just make an adjustment to the lock itself but give you a new key.
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Reply #7 posted 08/15/07 10:53am

Lothan

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf
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Reply #8 posted 08/15/07 10:54am

Anxiety

I'm tempted to write on all my moving boxes in thick black marker, "DON'T RENT THIS UNIT"
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Reply #9 posted 08/15/07 10:54am

horatio

im sure he wont walk in unannounced again

if he comes in and some guys taking it up the ass.

lol

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[Edited 8/15/07 10:56am]
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Reply #10 posted 08/15/07 10:54am

Lothan

Slave2daGroove said:

As a landlord, I can tell you that he has to give you advance warning.
It's a state law in Michigan, I'm not sure about Il.
Check your lease and see if anything is spelled out there.

If all else fails, call a locksmith and tell them that you want to "re-key" your locks. Basically, they just make an adjustment to the lock itself but give you a new key.
Yes, read your lease and the bastard, by law, should have given you a copy of your tenants rights.
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Reply #11 posted 08/15/07 10:55am

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Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf



wow Ivy you are a Goddess amongst orgers.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #12 posted 08/15/07 10:56am

horatio

or just leave your porn scattered all over the place.

In the kitchen on the living room floor.
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Reply #13 posted 08/15/07 10:56am

Lothan

ehuffnsd said:

Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf



wow Ivy you are a Goddess amongst orgers.
lol

I actually had to go to court with a landlord when my kids were small. I couldn't afford a lawyer so I learned a bunch of stuff on my own. I represented myself and won.
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Reply #14 posted 08/15/07 10:57am

EverSoulicious

ehuffnsd said:

Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf



wow Ivy you are a Goddess amongst orgers.

I've been saying that for years nod
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Reply #15 posted 08/15/07 10:57am

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Anxiety said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:




Are you moving in with your boy friend? sad



mr.green

and he's gonna be staying at my place quite a bit over the next few weeks.

if you know what i mean.



rolleyes

Next thing yanno, yous'll be creating org babies too. confused
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Reply #16 posted 08/15/07 10:57am

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24 hour notice is the law in Minnesota too.
Make him stick to it!
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Reply #17 posted 08/15/07 10:57am

Muse2NOPharaoh

Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf

Caifornia has the same law but it goes bbeyond that in other areas... He has the right to enter with 24 hour notice to see the premises but not repeatedly and not for the purposes of showing the joint. ( leasee has the right to quiet enjoyment of premises blah blah blah...) I completed a lot of law on real estate and may not know the particulars of Illinois codes but I got 5 that says it is not much different. Id place a quick call to the housing authority and put a stop to this right away... Its just not acceptable. ( For that matter even easier may be to just call the city.)
[Edited 8/15/07 11:00am]
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Reply #18 posted 08/15/07 10:57am

Anxiety

Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf


I'll be damned! Thanks for that!

All I know is, I'm dealing with a lot of family crisis (as always), trying to handle a move, I'm going to be hosting people in my apartment over the next weeks and I have a cat who I don't trust strangers around. Plus, there are so many repairs he needs to make to that apartment, he shouldn't WANT to show it.

I'm gonna look at this info and look at my lease. If there's no weaselly clause in the lease, I'm going to put a copy of this PDF under his door and give him a very polite, but very stern, call.
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Reply #19 posted 08/15/07 11:02am

Anxiety

horatio said:

or just leave your porn scattered all over the place.

In the kitchen on the living room floor.


yeah, i have some ideas along those lines. evillol
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Reply #20 posted 08/15/07 11:03am

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Anxiety said:

horatio said:

or just leave your porn scattered all over the place.

In the kitchen on the living room floor.


yeah, i have some ideas along those lines. evillol



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A song for you.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...UDg53ypBcA
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Reply #21 posted 08/15/07 11:05am

Anxiety

if anything happens to my pet during a showing - if, for example, my cat gets out or goes missing - is my landlord liable? does anyone know if that at least counts as theft or negligence?
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Reply #22 posted 08/15/07 11:13am

Anxiety

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf

Caifornia has the same law but it goes bbeyond that in other areas... He has the right to enter with 24 hour notice to see the premises but not repeatedly and not for the purposes of showing the joint. ( leasee has the right to quiet enjoyment of premises blah blah blah...) I completed a lot of law on real estate and may not know the particulars of Illinois codes but I got 5 that says it is not much different. Id place a quick call to the housing authority and put a stop to this right away... Its just not acceptable. ( For that matter even easier may be to just call the city.)
[Edited 8/15/07 11:00am]


it looks to be the same in illinois, according to what ivy posted.

of course, i'm sure he has some stupid language in the lease that makes my rights null and void.

though if he can't do that, it looks like he'll owe me at least one month's rent for showing the place unannounced if i feel like he violated my rights as a tenant. hmmm
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Reply #23 posted 08/15/07 11:17am

Lothan

Anxiety said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:


Caifornia has the same law but it goes bbeyond that in other areas... He has the right to enter with 24 hour notice to see the premises but not repeatedly and not for the purposes of showing the joint. ( leasee has the right to quiet enjoyment of premises blah blah blah...) I completed a lot of law on real estate and may not know the particulars of Illinois codes but I got 5 that says it is not much different. Id place a quick call to the housing authority and put a stop to this right away... Its just not acceptable. ( For that matter even easier may be to just call the city.)
[Edited 8/15/07 11:00am]


it looks to be the same in illinois, according to what ivy posted.

of course, i'm sure he has some stupid language in the lease that makes my rights null and void.

though if he can't do that, it looks like he'll owe me at least one month's rent for showing the place unannounced if i feel like he violated my rights as a tenant. hmmm
Email Ed Sacks at the Chicago Sun-Times. He is an expert at this stuff and usually replies immediately.

apartmentwatch@earthlink.net
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Reply #24 posted 08/15/07 11:26am

Anxiety

Lothan said:

Anxiety said:



it looks to be the same in illinois, according to what ivy posted.

of course, i'm sure he has some stupid language in the lease that makes my rights null and void.

though if he can't do that, it looks like he'll owe me at least one month's rent for showing the place unannounced if i feel like he violated my rights as a tenant. hmmm
Email Ed Sacks at the Chicago Sun-Times. He is an expert at this stuff and usually replies immediately.

apartmentwatch@earthlink.net


thank you. the deed is done. mr.green
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Reply #25 posted 08/15/07 11:27am

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Since I've never had an apartment, or a landlord before.

I always picture them being like the land lord on Coming to America.

Is this Poor Enough For Ya?? HAHAHAH
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I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
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Reply #26 posted 08/15/07 11:32am

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TotalANXiousNESS said:

Since I've never had an apartment, or a landlord before.

I always picture them being like the land lord on Coming to America.

Is this Poor Enough For Ya?? HAHAHAH


i think that was kind of a warm-hearted portrayal of landlords. basically, all the movie/TV cliches of landlords being money-hungry, heartless scum are pretty dead-on. nod
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Reply #27 posted 08/15/07 11:41am

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He has the right to show your Apt within the months notice you gave him. Seeing as you haven't been in the unit for more than 3 years...if I am remembering correctly, he doesn't have to have any down time for painting and whatnot. It's also a pretty busy area and I am sure he's got people clamoring for your unit.

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Reply #28 posted 08/15/07 11:42am

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Slave2daGroove said:

As a landlord, I can tell you that he has to give you advance warning.
It's a state law in Michigan, I'm not sure about Il.
Check your lease and see if anything is spelled out there.

If all else fails, call a locksmith and tell them that you want to "re-key" your locks. Basically, they just make an adjustment to the lock itself but give you a new key.


I thought for repairs and other things he does. Not to show the apt. He should call you first or at least tell you so he's not walking in on you.

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Reply #29 posted 08/15/07 11:44am

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Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf


I'd rather NOT be in the Apt when it's being shown, cuz I'd rather not be judged by any cleanliness factors. Plus I'd just plain feel weird with other people looking through my home.

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