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Reply #30 posted 08/15/07 11:50am

Lothan

superspaceboy said:

Lothan said:

The below is the law in Illinois. Your landlord has to give you 24 hours notice before he enters your apartment. Why he would want to show the apartment and bear the risk of some asshole trying to swipe your stuff is beyond me. Tell that motherfucker you know your rights. You two should be able to reach an agreement that you will be present when he shows the place or give you the goddamn respect to give you notice.

http://www.chicityclerk.c...er5_12.pdf


I'd rather NOT be in the Apt when it's being shown, cuz I'd rather not be judged by any cleanliness factors. Plus I'd just plain feel weird with other people looking through my home.
I don't trust people NOT to touch my stuff, so I rather be there.
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Reply #31 posted 08/15/07 12:01pm

Anxiety

superspaceboy said:

Slave2daGroove said:

As a landlord, I can tell you that he has to give you advance warning.
It's a state law in Michigan, I'm not sure about Il.
Check your lease and see if anything is spelled out there.

If all else fails, call a locksmith and tell them that you want to "re-key" your locks. Basically, they just make an adjustment to the lock itself but give you a new key.


I thought for repairs and other things he does. Not to show the apt. He should call you first or at least tell you so he's not walking in on you.


from the chicago tenant law i read (thanks to ivy), my landlord is obligated to give me 24 hours notice unless it's an emergency. showing the apartment is not an emergency.
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Reply #32 posted 08/15/07 12:02pm

Anxiety

Lothan said:

superspaceboy said:



I'd rather NOT be in the Apt when it's being shown, cuz I'd rather not be judged by any cleanliness factors. Plus I'd just plain feel weird with other people looking through my home.
I don't trust people NOT to touch my stuff, so I rather be there.


i agree with you both equally, though i would REALLY rather not have people fucking with my pet while i'm gone. if anything happens to my pet, i will go through the fucking roof.
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Reply #33 posted 08/15/07 12:07pm

Slave2daGroove

Anxiety said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Since I've never had an apartment, or a landlord before.

I always picture them being like the land lord on Coming to America.

Is this Poor Enough For Ya?? HAHAHAH


i think that was kind of a warm-hearted portrayal of landlords. basically, all the movie/TV cliches of landlords being money-hungry, heartless scum are pretty dead-on. nod



Woah there, little fella...I'm not this guy and I'm a landlord
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Reply #34 posted 08/15/07 12:08pm

Anxiety

Slave2daGroove said:

Anxiety said:



i think that was kind of a warm-hearted portrayal of landlords. basically, all the movie/TV cliches of landlords being money-hungry, heartless scum are pretty dead-on. nod



Woah there, little fella...I'm not this guy and I'm a landlord


then you aren't doing your job right. lol
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Reply #35 posted 08/15/07 12:09pm

Lothan

Slave2daGroove said:

Anxiety said:



i think that was kind of a warm-hearted portrayal of landlords. basically, all the movie/TV cliches of landlords being money-hungry, heartless scum are pretty dead-on. nod



Woah there, little fella...I'm not this guy and I'm a landlord
Nope, you're awesome. mushy

I love guys named Chris!! woot!
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Reply #36 posted 08/15/07 12:23pm

Slave2daGroove

Anxiety said:

Slave2daGroove said:




Woah there, little fella...I'm not this guy and I'm a landlord


then you aren't doing your job right. lol


You're right...being a landlord isn't the right way. Being a slumlord is the right way but I'm just not going there. I'm not buying any more rental properties either lol
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Reply #37 posted 08/15/07 12:24pm

Anxiety

well, i guess i HAVE met an honest politician once, so anything is possible.
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Reply #38 posted 08/15/07 12:25pm

Christopher

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Anxiety said:

Ok, Org legal beagles, pranksters, ointment flies and troublemakers...how do I keep this from happening?

I have three more weeks in this schmuck's building and I've been his tenant for six years. I think I deserve the dignity of three uninterrupted weeks.

PLUS, he informed me that he would be showing the apartment with no advance notice. YES, he actually said it in so many words.

I don't know about the legality of all this. I'm sure he has the right to give me a Dirty Sanchez if he wants, since he's a landlord and landlords have the God-given right to violate their tenants as they see fit.

But I can always make it REALLY unpleasant for him, and I'm more than willing to burn a bridge or two if he gets out of hand with this nonsense.

Has anyone else been through this? Any advice?


nothing really to add to the convo.except i like how *dirty shancez* is highlighted by the org ad's smile
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Reply #39 posted 08/15/07 12:32pm

Cinnie

superspaceboy said:

It's also a pretty busy area and I am sure he's got people clamoring for your unit.


giggle
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Reply #40 posted 08/15/07 12:32pm

Lothan

Cinnie said:

superspaceboy said:

It's also a pretty busy area and I am sure he's got people clamoring for your unit.


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falloff I just snorted. lol
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Reply #41 posted 08/15/07 12:33pm

HobbesLeCute

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Dark and lonely on a summer's night
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord
~ I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR ~
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Reply #42 posted 08/15/07 12:35pm

Anxiety

Cinnie said:

superspaceboy said:

It's also a pretty busy area and I am sure he's got people clamoring for your unit.


giggle



you people are fools lol
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Reply #43 posted 08/15/07 12:37pm

Lothan

HobbesLeCute said:

Dark and lonely on a summer's night
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord
falloff
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Reply #44 posted 08/15/07 12:39pm

HobbesLeCute

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Lothan said:

HobbesLeCute said:

Dark and lonely on a summer's night
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord
falloff


I've been waiting so long for the right moment to post that. So very long.
~ I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR ~
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Reply #45 posted 08/15/07 12:44pm

Anxiety

i need anti-martha stewart household tips for making people feel uncomfortable in my home. like, i'm thinking about getting a blank post-it pad and just littering my apartment with little sticky sketches of penii and vajayjay and choco rosebuds and whatnot. hmmm
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Reply #46 posted 08/15/07 1:15pm

gemini13

Anxiety said:

Ok, Org legal beagles, pranksters, ointment flies and troublemakers...how do I keep this from happening?

I have three more weeks in this schmuck's building and I've been his tenant for six years. I think I deserve the dignity of three uninterrupted weeks.

PLUS, he informed me that he would be showing the apartment with no advance notice. YES, he actually said it in so many words.

I don't know about the legality of all this. I'm sure he has the right to give me a Dirty Sanchez if he wants, since he's a landlord and landlords have the God-given right to violate their tenants as they see fit.

But I can always make it REALLY unpleasant for him, and I'm more than willing to burn a bridge or two if he gets out of hand with this nonsense.

Has anyone else been through this? Any advice?


I'm going through it right now, except I'm on the other side of the coin. There's a potential buyer for one of our properties. He gave me about three hours notice and his hot shot, idiot agent wanted to go into a bunch of occupied units. I told him no.

I ask people if it "ok" to show their apartment upon receiving their notice. I tell them it's up to them, and that they can always refuse if it's uncomfortable for them. I don't think has the right to go in whenever he wants to, depends on your state laws. In CA, a landlord has to give 24 hr notice to enter unless they have permission. You gave him permission?
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Reply #47 posted 08/15/07 1:18pm

gemini13

Anxiety said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Since I've never had an apartment, or a landlord before.

I always picture them being like the land lord on Coming to America.

Is this Poor Enough For Ya?? HAHAHAH


i think that was kind of a warm-hearted portrayal of landlords. basically, all the movie/TV cliches of landlords being money-hungry, heartless scum are pretty dead-on. nod


mad
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Reply #48 posted 08/15/07 2:15pm

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He should give you notice but you need to think about it as if you were going to rent the unit. Didn't you always want to see what you were getting into before you signed on the line?

I'm sure they would be in an out as I've never spent more then a couple of minutes inside a place when looking at apartments.
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Reply #49 posted 08/15/07 2:20pm

Anxiety

lovemachine said:

He should give you notice but you need to think about it as if you were going to rent the unit. Didn't you always want to see what you were getting into before you signed on the line?

I'm sure they would be in an out as I've never spent more then a couple of minutes inside a place when looking at apartments.


This actually isn't the first time I've moved within the building I've lived in, and when I was moving from one unit to the next he never sprung this little chestnut on me. And I have my lease in front of me right this second and I just read the language about Landlord access to my apartment, and NOWHERE does it say that he can come in without prior notice, which I thought was the case and I've now confirmed. smile
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Reply #50 posted 08/15/07 2:51pm

lazycrockett

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Anxiety said:

lovemachine said:

He should give you notice but you need to think about it as if you were going to rent the unit. Didn't you always want to see what you were getting into before you signed on the line?

I'm sure they would be in an out as I've never spent more then a couple of minutes inside a place when looking at apartments.


This actually isn't the first time I've moved within the building I've lived in, and when I was moving from one unit to the next he never sprung this little chestnut on me. And I have my lease in front of me right this second and I just read the language about Landlord access to my apartment, and NOWHERE does it say that he can come in without prior notice, which I thought was the case and I've now confirmed. smile



Most likely the landlord will call before and if/when no one answers, they will just show up and show. They've knocked on my door a couple of times after I didn't answer the phone (*69), Then knock on the door.

So unless you have someone there during your work hours, to object I think there's not much you can do.


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Reply #51 posted 08/15/07 3:07pm

WillyWonka

Anxiety said:

i need anti-martha stewart household tips for making people feel uncomfortable in my home. like, i'm thinking about getting a blank post-it pad and just littering my apartment with little sticky sketches of penii and vajayjay and choco rosebuds and whatnot. hmmm



Hm. I know. This first idea is for general ambiance: Obtain a copy of Charles Manson's record album and leave it on repeat on your stereo, plaster pictures of Charlie's charming mug over your walls, and finally, strew dismembered doll parts all about.

Then, perhaps for a pièce de résistance, either a dead rat or live toads in your toilet bowl.

If the above is too much hassle, I recommend simply staring intently at the potential renters the entire time they are in your apartment, or following them around at an uncomfortable closeness, constantly asking intrusive personal questions (note: eat onions and garlic prior for best results.)
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Reply #52 posted 08/15/07 3:14pm

WillyWonka

In seriousness, good luck to you with this situation. Moving out of an apartment is a time I truly despise, because of this very issue of landlords bringing potential new tenants through. The concept of strangers traipsing through my home and my stuff drives me crazy!
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Reply #53 posted 08/15/07 3:27pm

PeteZarustica

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Anxiety said:

if anything happens to my pet during a showing - if, for example, my cat gets out or goes missing - is my landlord liable? does anyone know if that at least counts as theft or negligence?


I couldn't find anything out there, but this would be my #1 concern in this situation. I have a bad feeling about the liability, though.

Can the cat go to it's new home before you do?
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Reply #54 posted 08/15/07 3:43pm

Alexamenos

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Anxiety said:

Ok, Org legal beagles, pranksters, ointment flies and troublemakers...how do I keep this from happening?

I have three more weeks in this schmuck's building and I've been his tenant for six years. I think I deserve the dignity of three uninterrupted weeks.

PLUS, he informed me that he would be showing the apartment with no advance notice. YES, he actually said it in so many words.

I don't know about the legality of all this. I'm sure he has the right to give me a Dirty Sanchez if he wants, since he's a landlord and landlords have the God-given right to violate their tenants as they see fit.

But I can always make it REALLY unpleasant for him, and I'm more than willing to burn a bridge or two if he gets out of hand with this nonsense.

Has anyone else been through this? Any advice?


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Reply #55 posted 08/15/07 3:49pm

EskomoKisses

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Anxiety said:

i need anti-martha stewart household tips for making people feel uncomfortable in my home. like, i'm thinking about getting a blank post-it pad and just littering my apartment with little sticky sketches of penii and vajayjay and choco rosebuds and whatnot. hmmm


you need to find the polar opposite of chocolate chip cookie smell and have it waifting through your place mr.green
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Reply #56 posted 08/15/07 4:27pm

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I'm in the process (going on 10 months now rolleyes) of having to relocate as my landlord decided to demolish my building, then decided not to, but still wants to move me out. I am currently living month to month sans lease and waiting for him to move me to an apartment in another one of the buildings he owns, so I've been to several places with him and he always arranges at least a week in advance. Most times the tenant has not been there.


I'm fairly certain (as others have said) that unless it's an emergency (emergency meaning flood, fire, etc) the landlord must give you at least 24 hours notice that he wishes to show your apt. However, if he gives you notice and you're not around (e.g. he calls you but you don't get the message until a few hours before he wants to come) he might be able to show it anyway.


My tips for making people uncomfortable/not want to rent the place:

    --Buy roach spray, mouse traps, etc. and make sure they left out and clearly visible.
    --If you can stand it--don't clean the bathroom--leave the toothpaste spit in the sink, pubes on the toilet, get some condoms and have them on top of the trash and look freshly used (even if they aren't), etc. ill
    --Maybe not clean out Grady's litter box until *after* when you know he's showing the place.


Leaving porn and weird books out will not deter tenents if it's a nice apartment in a good neighborhood. When I went to see the first apartment I lived in in Chicago it was a pigsty--porn magazines lying around, dirty clothes strewn about, open cereal boxes out; but I saw through that crap in a second and recognized that it a great layout, a good price, and in a nice 'hood. I lived there 'til I moved to NYC.

But back to my point--you need to make people think there are problems with the building being unsanitary or jenky; not just a dirty/cluttered apartment. Hence bug spray (no one wants to see bug traps/spray.) If you're there when he shows the apt you could always casually mention things like, "Oh btw, there was no hot water this morning" or "I've noticed a decrease in water pressure." Things that he can't prove didn't happen but could make a potential tenant weary.

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Reply #57 posted 08/15/07 4:31pm

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comfort

I've been through this by my situation was different - I was renting a condo & the bitch decided to sell mad MF'ing realtors were coming into the place within a week or two of her TELLING ME she was gonna sell omfg So in addition to having her realtor come over, inspections & potential buyers, I had a slew of people coming through several days a week for about 3 weeks to a month. sigh All while packing, feverishly looking for a new apartment (b/c I would only have 2 weeks to vacate once the place was sold) & keeping the place looking neat because of the bitches coming through mad mad I heard that one lady said I kept it so nice that if she bought it she MAY keep me as the tenant neutral I wanted to strangle that ho chair

It's nerve racking, I hid all my essentials deep in a drawer & just hoped nothing would be taken, but they're really not thinking about your stuff. Just don't leave anything good out. The landlord/realtor is supposed to be with the people at all times & she pretty much TOLD me to be out of the unit when there was an appointment neutral One time I had to wake up out of my sleep & go sit in the park for 2 hours behind that bullshit disbelief

But the place I found rocked bananadance & I was happy to escape the loose floorboard in the above unit that literally woke me from sleep whenever there was someone in the bedroom, it was like they were hitting the wall with a hammer eek They never fixed it & I'm sure somebody's pissed about that - I'm glad not to be involved anymore... but I do miss my fireplace & in-unit laundry mad


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Reply #58 posted 08/15/07 4:47pm

Anxiety

Well, fortunately I'm in good with my new landlord. giggle

MEANWHILE, the fucker did it. I was in my undershirt and shorts cooking dinner and watching TV and suddenly it's OPEN HOUSE in Chez Anxiety! mad

So, I very icily asked my landlord if we could have a word after he was done raping my privacy, and when he saw his potential buyers out, I told him his actions were unacceptable, and I had a copy of my lease and the Chicago tenant law (thanks Ivy! hug ) in my hand, and I asked him if he would like to review them with me, and he waved them off and said no, he knew it was unacceptable.

OH. WELL. nuts

Then he tried to appeal to my sympathy by saying "some of these people want to see the unit NOW and I can't say no", then he asked when I was moving out and I told him I was moving out on the move-out date, and he said that was going to pose a bit of a problem if he had people moving in on September 1st, so now he's getting all asstacular about THAT (which I was anticipating).

FUN FUN FUN! rolleyes
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Reply #59 posted 08/15/07 4:48pm

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Sorry about this apartment, that is shite. I am glad I own my home. Oh I posted some questions for you in the 3 question thread?
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