xplnyrslf said:

how long can that sensibly be used as a justification for a lack of gun control though? it's been hundreds of years, and we're not struggling little colonies anymore. come on.

xplnyrslf said:

Yes, yes, but currently I think the US has proven it's fire power effectively enough through our military to be a deterrent for military strikes from other nations.

I strongly support gun control.

Gun control to me is like finding a way to control Internet music piracy. Sure, taking away my ability to steal mp3s online might not take away my criminal tendancy to want to pirate music. But then, I'd have to start coming the city for bootleg records stores, or find alternate means of distribution through mailing lists and clubs, etc. etc., that I just couldn't be bothered or wouldn't be as effective.

I assume drive-by knifings and strangulations would be far fewer than drive-by shootings.

Imago said:

& when people would rather send their kids to school with bullet-resistant backpacks than limit guns, something's wrong.

evenstar3 said:

We had a policeman shot and killed yesterday morning by a guy with a criminal history, just 1 mile down the street from my normally quiet, rural neighborhood.

A police sniper had to take him out. Sure, without a gun he was still a dangerous thug, but if he had tried to go after the officer with a knife, the morning news would have been far different.

Imago said:

jeez.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Cool

So what did he say ?

Mach said:

He was actually THRILLED, and told me he has always wanted a BJ from up in his tree stand. He just said that when I get bored, don't expect HIM to take me back to the truck.

Mach said:

He was actually THRILLED, and told me he has always wanted a BJ from up in his tree stand. He just said that when I get bored, don't expect HIM to take me back to the truck.

xplnyrslf said:

I really don't care if you shoot animals but with this and some other things you post, you love the fact that you piss some people off and then start digging deeper like you did throughout this thread with the pictures you posted and comments you've made. It's like you're saying "fuck you" to people who are sensitive about this topic.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I've hunted for years. You need to take a hunter education class, and get to the range and target practice, so you are comfortable with site alignment, using a scope, positioning, concentration, etc.
I don't discuss hunting much, as it's not a popular topic.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Last fall, there was a nice bachelor party with two decent bucks. The biggest was just under 300 yards. Nice rack, good body, older, with a grey tail and in charge of the others. I had a good rest, a good position, but couldn't get the cross hairs lined up. I was too excited, and will not shoot under those circumstances.(plus my hubby was nearby, and he's such an annoyance, I can't shoot with HIM around, either), They're all still out there! Safe and sound.
We have high powered binoculars and glass-up deer most hunters can't find.

Needless to say, I haven't shot much in a while....
[Edited 8/14/07 15:05pm]

evenstar3 said:

We had a policeman shot and killed yesterday morning by a guy with a criminal history, just 1 mile down the street from my normally quiet, rural neighborhood.

A police sniper had to take him out. Sure, without a gun he was still a dangerous thug, but if he had tried to go after the officer with a knife, the morning news would have been far different.

Lothan said:

Unfortunately,you missed the snipped posts.
I know many gun owners and hunters who don't discuss the subject, for this exact reason. It's not worth the grief.
[Edited 8/16/07 16:06pm]

xplnyrslf said:

I'm not offended by the hunting thing, I don't really care one way or the other. It's just, like I said, the way you get off on the fact that you purposely upset people. It happens a lot on the org: someone starts a veggie thread, then some meat come on talking about how much they love meat; someone will start a car thread and the SUV people come on and basically say fuck you to the people who think SUVs pollute the planet, etc.

Instead of having intelligent conversation, both sides end up stooping to the others' level.

Imago said:

ok...what are the chances that thug was carrying a legal gun? prolly like NONE...all gun laws do is restrict law obiding citizens, that thug woulda still had that gun no matter what the laws. Unless all guns are some how eliminated, gun laws are useless.

Shorty said:

Same argument holds true with those who abuse crack cocaine I guess, but I would speculate confidently if it were legal for sale, we'd have a much worse epidemic. Doing nothing should not be an option.

evenstar3 said:

Exactly. I just wish Americans would admit that they love having the power to be able to end someone else's life. Other countries do well without the millions of firearms we have.

Lothan said:

Rwanda: 1994, April-June 800,000 people slaughtered. I take it the Belgiums were to blame.
Circa 1996 a SKS (Chinese version of a military automatic rifle) was $7.50 in South Africa.

Serious said:

I don't even approve when forest rangers do it, at least not when they claim that certain animal populations "need to be decimated" because they've "grown too large". Says who? The eco system is self-regulating. If the environment can't sustain the population then any excessive numbers will die off naturally. No need for humans to step in and play god.

xplnyrslf said:

I'm not offended by the hunting thing, I don't really care one way or the other. It's just, like I said, the way you get off on the fact that you gie purposely upset people. It happens a lot on the org: someone starts a vegthread, then some meat come on talking about how much they love meat; someone will start a car thread and the SUV people come on and basically say fuck you to the people who think SUVs pollute the planet, etc.

Instead of having intelligent conversation, both sides end up stooping to the others' level.

Imago said:

I'm not so sure, I've never tried crack, not because it was illegal...just cause I never wanted to try it. I don't advocate doing nothing either.

xplnyrslf said:

Now you are just being ridiculous. I did not say every other country.
I could dig up numbers to support my being for gun control but it's not an fight I want to take up with someone who thinks they are so intellectually superior to everyone else here and speaks with nothing more than a condescending attitude.

Shorty said:

Then, GurrrRLLL, you should! It makes listening to Prince's recent output of music actually tolerable!

Shorty said:

Then, GurrrRLLL, you should! It makes listening to Prince's recent output of music actually tolerable!

Fauxie said:

You dropped me from your sig.

It's so over.