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Reply #30 posted 08/05/07 7:16pm

SaraWright10

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evenstar3 said:

Okay, so this is blatantly stolen from/inspired by jess & carrie's threads, but i'm wondering- why can't more of us be honest with how we feel about others romantically? every single time i've been dishonest about it in my life (from embarrassment, or fear, whatever), i've regretted it in the end.

so today if you love someone, tell them. or if you don't love someone anymore, tell them. nod




This is so true.
I do this ALL the time I don't know why.
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Reply #31 posted 08/05/07 7:18pm

evenstar3

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SaraWright10 said:

evenstar3 said:

Okay, so this is blatantly stolen from/inspired by jess & carrie's threads, but i'm wondering- why can't more of us be honest with how we feel about others romantically? every single time i've been dishonest about it in my life (from embarrassment, or fear, whatever), i've regretted it in the end.

so today if you love someone, tell them. or if you don't love someone anymore, tell them. nod




This is so true.
I do this ALL the time I don't know why.


i know! i've done it forever and have to really try not to. lol it's silly when you think about it.
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Reply #32 posted 08/05/07 7:19pm

Imago

Laurel, is there something you want to share about Spooky?


orgnote me.
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Reply #33 posted 08/05/07 7:23pm

evenstar3

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Imago said:

Laurel, is there something you want to share about Spooky?


orgnote me.


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i SAID i started this after reading jess and carrie's threads!
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Reply #34 posted 08/05/07 7:24pm

Imago

evenstar3 said:

Imago said:

Laurel, is there something you want to share about Spooky?


orgnote me.


fishslap

i SAID i started this after reading jess and carrie's threads!

Is there something you want to share about Jess and Carrie with me?


orgnote me.
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Reply #35 posted 08/05/07 7:25pm

evenstar3

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Imago said:

evenstar3 said:



fishslap

i SAID i started this after reading jess and carrie's threads!

Is there something you want to share about Jess and Carrie with me?


orgnote me.


shhh jess is my straight girl crush shhh
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Reply #36 posted 08/05/07 7:28pm

SaraWright10

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evenstar3 said:

SaraWright10 said:





This is so true.
I do this ALL the time I don't know why.


i know! i've done it forever and have to really try not to. lol it's silly when you think about it.



nod
Sometimes I even catch myself playing games with guys to secretly make them say it first lol!

totally Highschool! cool
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Reply #37 posted 08/05/07 7:59pm

july

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I never loved you.

smile

falloff
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Reply #38 posted 08/05/07 8:00pm

july

july said:

2the9s said:

I never loved you.

smile

falloff

Me, either.

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Reply #39 posted 08/05/07 8:06pm

ArielB

I'm pretty honest when it comes to saying how I feel. never did me any good. But I'm just a bad lier, so I might as well tell the truth.
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Reply #40 posted 08/05/07 8:07pm

evenstar3

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july said:

july said:


falloff

Me, either.

eek


no one loves 9s.
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Reply #41 posted 08/05/07 8:25pm

xplnyrslf

evenstar3 said:

xplnyrslf said:



Human nature. There's a gamut of reasons. Selfishness, noncomitment to anyone, the almighty dick, wanting and needing more than one person to fulfill needs....This is centuries old. wink


so why not try and change it, at least a little? biggrin


How about starting with, defining "love". It means different things to different people.
There are those who can't live without someone and still have physical needs that entail sex with others.

There's two concepts here: honesty and love.
Honesty is based on ethics.
Love is an emotion.
Sometimes with the two, it's like oil on water.
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Reply #42 posted 08/05/07 8:51pm

evenstar3

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xplnyrslf said:

evenstar3 said:



so why not try and change it, at least a little? biggrin


How about starting with, defining "love". It means different things to different people.
There are those who can't live without someone and still have physical needs that entail sex with others.

There's two concepts here: honesty and love.
Honesty is based on ethics.
Love is an emotion.
Sometimes with the two, it's like oil on water.


oh god, i'd have no clue how to define love. lol it's different for everyone.
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Reply #43 posted 08/05/07 9:02pm

xplnyrslf

evenstar3 said:

xplnyrslf said:



How about starting with, defining "love". It means different things to different people.
There are those who can't live without someone and still have physical needs that entail sex with others.

There's two concepts here: honesty and love.
Honesty is based on ethics.
Love is an emotion.
Sometimes with the two, it's like oil on water.


oh god, i'd have no clue how to define love. lol it's different for everyone.


official definition of love:
noun
1. deep affection;fondness.
2. sexual passion
3.sexual relations
4.beloved one
5.in some games, no score
verb
1.feel love or deep fondness
2.delight in;cherish etc.

Heck of a lot of sex in the definition, which is surprising.
There's no boundaries on individual perceptions of love. A dictionary doesn't come close.
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Reply #44 posted 08/05/07 9:55pm

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Because you are smart enough to know that your feelings change.

Because you never want to shut the door completely.

Because sometimes, things are complex enough that you can lie to yourself, for the time being.

Because you are really ambivalent.

Because depending on the outcomes, the price of saying the words are very cheap or very dear.

I think it is difficult to maintain the same emotional intensity day in & day out. We fall in and out of love with the single most person in our life - repeatedly.
"I got the devil in me, girl." - 'John the Baptist', Afghan Whigs
"Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself."
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Reply #45 posted 08/06/07 5:26am

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Oh Lord.

I layed awake in bed last nite thinking about this exact topic.
I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside
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Reply #46 posted 08/06/07 5:28am

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TotalANXiousNESS said:

Oh Lord.

I layed awake in bed last nite thinking about this exact topic.



Don't forget about the cake in the oven!!!
It's a mess, ain't it, sheriff?
If it ain't, it'll do till the mess gets here
OWB
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Reply #47 posted 08/06/07 6:16am

xplnyrslf

PeteZarustica said:

Because you are smart enough to know that your feelings change.

Because you never want to shut the door completely.

Because sometimes, things are complex enough that you can lie to yourself, for the time being.

Because you are really ambivalent.

Because depending on the outcomes, the price of saying the words are very cheap or very dear.

I think it is difficult to maintain the same emotional intensity day in & day out. We fall in and out of love with the single most person in our life - repeatedly.


So very true....
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Reply #48 posted 08/06/07 6:20am

xplnyrslf

Although it has nothing to do with the inspiration for the topic, I'd like to see a
Spooky response..... biggrin
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Reply #49 posted 08/06/07 6:25am

Lothan

I have no idea why people aren't more straightforward. Maybe because they are afraid the truth will hurt? Or maybe because people just like being liars? Maybe because they are assholes? biggrin
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Reply #50 posted 08/06/07 6:30am

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xplnyrslf said:

evenstar3 said:



so why not try and change it, at least a little? biggrin


How about starting with, defining "love". It means different things to different people.
There are those who can't live without someone and still have physical needs that entail sex with others.

There's two concepts here: honesty and love.
Honesty is based on ethics.
Love is an emotion.
Sometimes with the two, it's like oil on water.



clapping this is why I wanna be like you when I grow up.....nod


as far as the subject, a lot of times being straightforward about feelings, whether expressed or not, is a dangerous proposition....because there are people out there who are so starved for emotional attachment that your innocent "I Love You, but not in that way" is completely re-edited for content....in other words, the latter part of the statement is completely ignored....so now you're sitting there trying to deal with this person who just doesn't get it....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #51 posted 08/06/07 6:43am

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jami0mckay said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Oh Lord.

I layed awake in bed last nite thinking about this exact topic.



Don't forget about the cake in the oven!!!



I set the oven timer, and went to my appt.

Then on the drive home, hoped that it worked and that I wouldn't be pulling into a fire.
I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside
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Reply #52 posted 08/06/07 6:46am

Lothan

reneGade20 said:

xplnyrslf said:



How about starting with, defining "love". It means different things to different people.
There are those who can't live without someone and still have physical needs that entail sex with others.

There's two concepts here: honesty and love.
Honesty is based on ethics.
Love is an emotion.
Sometimes with the two, it's like oil on water.



clapping this is why I wanna be like you when I grow up.....nod


as far as the subject, a lot of times being straightforward about feelings, whether expressed or not, is a dangerous proposition....because there are people out there who are so starved for emotional attachment that your innocent "I Love You, but not in that way" is completely re-edited for content....in other words, the latter part of the statement is completely ignored....so now you're sitting there trying to deal with this person who just doesn't get it....
Yes but then cut that person off completely. If that person is in love with you and you don't feel the same way, just leave that person alone.
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Reply #53 posted 08/06/07 6:47am

REDBABY

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Lothan said:

I have no idea why people aren't more straightforward. Maybe because they are afraid the truth will hurt? Or maybe because people just like being liars? Maybe because they are assholes? biggrin

lol nod
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #54 posted 08/06/07 6:48am

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Lothan said:

reneGade20 said:




clapping this is why I wanna be like you when I grow up.....nod


as far as the subject, a lot of times being straightforward about feelings, whether expressed or not, is a dangerous proposition....because there are people out there who are so starved for emotional attachment that your innocent "I Love You, but not in that way" is completely re-edited for content....in other words, the latter part of the statement is completely ignored....so now you're sitting there trying to deal with this person who just doesn't get it....
Yes but then cut that person off completely. If that person is in love with you and you don't feel the same way, just leave that person alone.



highfive hug
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #55 posted 08/06/07 6:48am

xplnyrslf

reneGade20 said:

xplnyrslf said:



How about starting with, defining "love". It means different things to different people.
There are those who can't live without someone and still have physical needs that entail sex with others.

There's two concepts here: honesty and love.
Honesty is based on ethics.
Love is an emotion.
Sometimes with the two, it's like oil on water.



clapping this is why I wanna be like you when I grow up.....nod


as far as the subject, a lot of times being straightforward about feelings, whether expressed or not, is a dangerous proposition....because there are people out there who are so starved for emotional attachment that your innocent "I Love You, but not in that way" is completely re-edited for content....in other words, the latter part of the statement is completely ignored....so now you're sitting there trying to deal with this person who just doesn't get it....



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Reply #56 posted 08/06/07 6:50am

Lothan

REDBABY said:

Lothan said:

I have no idea why people aren't more straightforward. Maybe because they are afraid the truth will hurt? Or maybe because people just like being liars? Maybe because they are assholes? biggrin

lol nod
giggle

Give me the truth over a lie anyday. Don't spare my feelings and I am not really good at getting a hint. Someone sugarcoating shit has hurt me immensely over these last couple of years.
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Reply #57 posted 08/06/07 6:51am

REDBABY

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Lothan said:

REDBABY said:


lol nod
giggle

Give me the truth over a lie anyday. Don't spare my feelings and I am not really good at getting a hint. Someone sugarcoating shit has hurt me immensely over these last couple of years.



kisses

Truth: I love you. nod
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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Reply #58 posted 08/06/07 6:52am

TotalANXiousNE
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Lothan said:

REDBABY said:


lol nod
giggle

Give me the truth over a lie anyday. Don't spare my feelings and I am not really good at getting a hint. Someone sugarcoating shit has hurt me immensely over these last couple of years.



sad

This is me.

Same thing.

I didn't take a hint either. And I was sent total mixed signals. For a long period of time. A lot of hurt on my end could have been avoided if this person would have been honest from the get.
I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside
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Reply #59 posted 08/06/07 6:54am

REDBABY

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TotalANXiousNESS said:

Lothan said:

giggle

Give me the truth over a lie anyday. Don't spare my feelings and I am not really good at getting a hint. Someone sugarcoating shit has hurt me immensely over these last couple of years.



sad

This is me.

Same thing.

I didn't take a hint either. And I was sent total mixed signals. For a long period of time. A lot of hurt on my end could have been avoided if this person would have been honest from the get.



Some ppl just can't do that though.. I wonder why though? hug
if sexy was a colour it would be red batting eyes
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