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Thread started 10/02/02 5:24pm

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Attention Ladies...Rapist in Aisle 5 / Important Read

Just a little something to make you aware and to be careful.

THROUGH A RAPIST'S EYES:

The headlines in the news media today are centered around multiple abductions, murders and RAPE.

A group of rapists and date rapists from various prisons were interviewed and asked what they look for in a potential victim. Here is some interesting response.

1. Most rapists look for a potential victim with 'hairstyle'. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other doo that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

2. They look for particular clothing; something easy to remove - quickly. Many of them carry scissors to cut clothing. They keep an eye for women on their cellphone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking...in other words...off guard and set up for an easy hit.

3. The time of day men are most likely to attack is in the early morning, between 5 and 8:30 a.m. (morning erection out of control!)

4. The number one place women are abducted from/attacked at is grocery store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public restrooms. Really.

5. The grab is fast and the intension is to move the victim quickly to a second location where the attacker can secretly do his business.

6. Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years. (so whatdya call scissors?)

7. If you put up any kind of a fight at all, most get discouraged; they don't care for women that will put up a mean fight. They avoid women with umbrellas, or other objects that can be used from a distance. Keys are not a deterrent unless you are really close to the attacker.


A Few Defense tips:

a) Like my mama always told me "Walk with a Purpose and Be Aware"

b) If someone is following behind you - on a street, in a garage, in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like - what time is it? Make general small talk. Now you've seen their face and can identify them. You've just lost some appeal as a target. Now we're supposed to keep in mind that only 2% of them carry a weapon (again - what are scissors?) Stand your ground. Get bitchy.

c) If someone is coming toward you - hold out your hands in front and yell 'Stop' or 'Stay Back! Once again, most of the rapists talked to said they'd split if they thought the woman was gonna put up a big fight.

d) If you carry pepper spray (excellent idea), yelling "I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY" and holding it out will again knock you down a notch as a target. You may not be capable of beating the attacker off with strength but you can outsmart them.

e) If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh - HARD. Some women have been known to break skin and even tear out tendons.

f) After the initial hit, always go for the groin. Some might think that this will anger the attacker even more, lashing out at you and hurting you... but on several occasions the surveyed rapists reportd - all they wanted was an easy target; not a woman that could be trouble.

g) If an attacker raises his hands to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible, with as much pressure, pushing down. It will bring most to their knees.

H) Don't dismiss any warning signs you may feel. Go with your instincts.

Bless the ladies and all the little girls.
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Reply #1 posted 10/02/02 5:26pm

IceNine

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I think that life imprisonment would not even be enough for a rapist... rapists should be made to suffer horribly.
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Reply #2 posted 10/02/02 5:29pm

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Wow! Great thread! And you saved the best for last...

Go with your instinct!

Ice... me too...
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Reply #3 posted 10/02/02 5:36pm

MrBlues

cool thread.. i've never understood what those pricks get out of raping a woman.. (or a man)..
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Reply #4 posted 10/02/02 5:38pm

IceNine

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MrBlues said:

cool thread.. i've never understood what those pricks get out of raping a woman.. (or a man)..



No shit... there is nothing right about it and it is up there with murder on the scale of bad to horrible. I will never understand people like that either.
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Reply #5 posted 10/02/02 6:12pm

DORA

thanks for the info... it has been said many times but never enough...
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Reply #6 posted 10/02/02 6:14pm

logger

Castration should be brought back for rapists and paedophiles.
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Reply #7 posted 10/02/02 6:40pm

aspera773

Wow...according 2 this list, I'm a prime target (which I knew) but the self-defense tips are invaluable. Thanx.
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Reply #8 posted 10/02/02 6:43pm

IceNine

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logger said:

Castration should be brought back for rapists and paedophiles.



Castration, life imprisonment, torture and starvation are still not good enough for rapists and pedophiles.
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Reply #9 posted 10/02/02 6:55pm

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logger said:

Castration should be brought back for rapists and paedophiles.



i agree..literally
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Reply #10 posted 10/02/02 7:25pm

SkletonKee

im glad ive read this...im gonna forward it to all my sister girls...
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Reply #11 posted 10/02/02 8:39pm

bkw

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Kick the fucker in the nuts. Scratch his eyes out. Whatever it takes.
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Reply #12 posted 10/02/02 9:35pm

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Excellent thread - major important things. Scream and draw attention to yourself and kick the asshole in the balls and then he will drop to the ground. Steal his wallet and run like hell to a public place and get help immediately.
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Reply #13 posted 10/02/02 9:38pm

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IceNine said:

logger said:

Castration should be brought back for rapists and paedophiles.



Castration, life imprisonment, torture and starvation are still not good enough for rapists and pedophiles.


Well said - Lets use an electric chair and hanging. Better yet feed the asshole to the crocodiles - dinner!! Or have the asswipe raped.
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Reply #14 posted 10/02/02 9:47pm

4LOVE

If you are a lady.Keep mace with you.Warn him and if he can't take a hint or steps toward you let him have it and split.
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Reply #15 posted 10/02/02 11:12pm

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Red said:


e) If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh - HARD. Some women have been known to break skin and even tear out tendons.

eek Wow!
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #16 posted 10/03/02 8:39am

AprilMichelle

wow never been happier 2 have short hair and am a TOTAL BITCH 2 strangers...thank u 4 some valuable information sweetheart smile
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Reply #17 posted 10/03/02 8:45am

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luv4u said:

Excellent thread - major important things. Scream and draw attention to yourself and kick the asshole in the balls and then he will drop to the ground. Steal his wallet and run like hell to a public place and get help immediately.


When you scream, scream "Fire!" People tend to not want to get involved in personal attacks and will not respond to cries for help. However, if they feel their property is threatened such as with a fire, plus the curiosity of people and the draw they feel to watch a fire, will get more attention.
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Reply #18 posted 10/03/02 8:45am

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WOW! Thanks Red.
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Reply #19 posted 10/03/02 8:46am

AzureStar

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When you scream, scream "Fire!" People tend to not want to get involved in personal attacks and will not respond to cries for help. However, if they feel their property is threatened such as with a fire, plus the curiosity of people and the draw they feel to watch a fire, will get more attention.


Very true, Infinities!

Thanks, red!
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Reply #20 posted 10/03/02 9:00am

CarrieLee

Great post.

A few months ago a woman was brutally murdered in a public restroom. She gave up a good fight but he still got her. There was a security guard in the men's room taking a dump so he couldn't get up. BULLSHIT! No pun intended either.

The worst part about it is this guy was an employee at the Buger King, he had been charged with rape a few times and served over 10 years and BK didn't even do a background check. It was at one of those highway rest areas/fast food places and he worked 12am to 6am.

BOYCOTT BK LADIES!!
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Reply #21 posted 10/03/02 9:05am

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CarrieLee said:

Great post.

A few months ago a woman was brutally murdered in a public restroom. She gave up a good fight but he still got her. There was a security guard in the men's room taking a dump so he couldn't get up. BULLSHIT! No pun intended either.

The worst part about it is this guy was an employee at the Buger King, he had been charged with rape a few times and served over 10 years and BK didn't even do a background check. It was at one of those highway rest areas/fast food places and he worked 12am to 6am.

BOYCOTT BK LADIES!!


I will never understand why rapists still continue to get such short sentences... it really is appalling...
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Reply #22 posted 10/03/02 9:10am

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CarrieLee said:

Great post.

A few months ago a woman was brutally murdered in a public restroom. She gave up a good fight but he still got her. There was a security guard in the men's room taking a dump so he couldn't get up. BULLSHIT! No pun intended either.

The worst part about it is this guy was an employee at the Buger King, he had been charged with rape a few times and served over 10 years and BK didn't even do a background check. It was at one of those highway rest areas/fast food places and he worked 12am to 6am.

BOYCOTT BK LADIES!!



I am serious when I say that there should be no less than a life sentence for rapists. How could you purposely hurt another person like that? I cannot understand it at all.
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Reply #23 posted 10/03/02 9:13am

CarrieLee

IceNine said:



I am serious when I say that there should be no less than a life sentence for rapists. How could you purposely hurt another person like that? I cannot understand it at all.



I know. But sometimes these people have had to live fucked up lives. Who knows if they were molested by a parent or someone close to them. I think that more than half of rapists are just seriously ill. And then they get thrown in jail rather than getting treatment.

It's easy for us to say just kill them or put them in jail and throw away the key...but what they really need is HELP.
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Reply #24 posted 10/03/02 9:14am

CarrieLee

And then we have date rape...that is something different all together. Drunk college boys and girls acting like idiots...
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Reply #25 posted 10/03/02 9:17am

TheGillman

I eat rapists! They taste just like chicken! Oh wait, they ARE chicken! My bad!
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Reply #26 posted 10/03/02 9:28am

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CarrieLee said:

IceNine said:



I am serious when I say that there should be no less than a life sentence for rapists. How could you purposely hurt another person like that? I cannot understand it at all.



I know. But sometimes these people have had to live fucked up lives. Who knows if they were molested by a parent or someone close to them. I think that more than half of rapists are just seriously ill. And then they get thrown in jail rather than getting treatment.

It's easy for us to say just kill them or put them in jail and throw away the key...but what they really need is HELP.



This is true, good grief everybody has a story! :Cry:
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Reply #27 posted 10/03/02 9:45am

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CarrieLee said:

IceNine said:



I am serious when I say that there should be no less than a life sentence for rapists. How could you purposely hurt another person like that? I cannot understand it at all.



I know. But sometimes these people have had to live fucked up lives. Who knows if they were molested by a parent or someone close to them. I think that more than half of rapists are just seriously ill. And then they get thrown in jail rather than getting treatment.

It's easy for us to say just kill them or put them in jail and throw away the key...but what they really need is HELP.



They most certainly are sick, but that cannot be used as an excuse for violating another person in such a vile manner.

They should certainly be treated, but most doctors do not believe that you can cure a rapist, as the problems are usually progressive in nature... and can lead to murder in some cases.

There is a very FBI manual that you might be interested in:

"Sexual Homicide: Patterns and Motives" By Robert Ressler and John Douglas.
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Reply #28 posted 10/03/02 10:07am

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CarrieLee said:

IceNine said:



I am serious when I say that there should be no less than a life sentence for rapists. How could you purposely hurt another person like that? I cannot understand it at all.



I know. But sometimes these people have had to live fucked up lives. Who knows if they were molested by a parent or someone close to them. I think that more than half of rapists are just seriously ill. And then they get thrown in jail rather than getting treatment.

It's easy for us to say just kill them or put them in jail and throw away the key...but what they really need is HELP.


I hear where you're coming from Carrie... it is true.. many rapists have had messed up lives... and of course many have been abused themselves. and that is tragic, no doubt. sad. However, while this may sometimes explain their behaviour, it still isn't ever a justification for it is it? Nothing can justify such a violation on someone else... At some point some form of self-responsibility has to come into play. I certainly am not for killing anyone... no matter what crimes they commit... but there does need to be a significant consequence for perpetrating such a horrific act on someone...

Many of them truly do need help, and I am all for attempts to reform those who commit such acts... nothing wrong in trying..(even though many such attempts are unsuccessful, so many are repeat offenders even after attempts at reforming them). Either way part of any such reform should go hand in hand with taking responsibility for ones actions... and some of the sentences handed out are truly ludicrous... one has to protect future victims too... no system will ever be completely just... but you have to draw the line somewhere...

I just see so many cases in Australia where rapists get 2 or 3 year sentences.. and come out and rape again... that just aint right, no matter where one stands...

In South Africa it's even worse... 50% of woman there have been raped... and so often it goes completely unpunished... so yeah... reform is overwhelmingly needed. and the system does need to be improved. However I still believe many of the sentences given are way too soft... at the end of the day rape is rape... and there should be significant consequences for it. (Surely something more significant than 2 or 3 years in jail) ...
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Reply #29 posted 10/03/02 10:09am

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MrBlues said:

logger said:

Castration should be brought back for rapists and paedophiles.



i agree..literally

While i agree that rapists are scum and equivalent to murderers, and the law needs to add more years to it sentences- 3 to 5 yrs is hardly enough - castration will only enforce the myth that rape is about sex, when it is a struggle for power and control, and really has nothing to do with sex.
It is a mind set if you will.

There are several examples of men who have been castrated and still commit heinous crimes after they get off a shortened sentence, because they agreed to castration.

And two, there are women rapists too, though our society still sees male victims in a much lesser light than female victims--how are we to deal with them? Cut off the clitoris? You may cringe when i write that, but it is the female equivalent to male castration.

Castration, IMO, is 'cruel and unusual punishment' and is a form of mutulation. Like capital punishment, i don't see how mutulating one body justifies mutulating another, no matter how brutal the crime.
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