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evenstar3 said: is this the place to say i like nicole ritchie's bangs? 'cause i do.
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I know. Why do my threads always get deleted or locked!?!? I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies Whats it all worth only the heart can measure It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside | |
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evenstar3 said: is this the place to say i like nicole ritchie's bangs? 'cause i do.
Actually, me too. That's why I cut mine exactly the same as hers. | |
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evenstar3 said: is this the place to say i like nicole ritchie's bangs? 'cause i do.
Fuck, Carrie, and I like her, stopped the Nicole thread, so I don't know what happening anymore. I think your duty as a DOOM member is to help me woo Mochalox and downplay my creepiness as much as possible.  | |
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fhqwhgads said: evenstar3 said: is this the place to say i like nicole ritchie's bangs? 'cause i do.
Fuck, Carrie, and I like her, stopped the Nicole thread, so I don't know what happening anymore. I think your duty as a DOOM member is to help me woo Mochalox and downplay my creepiness as much as possible. of course! i'll be sure not to tell her about the DOOM days involving that basement with chains and stuff. | |
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evenstar3 said: fhqwhgads said: Fuck, Carrie, and I like her, stopped the Nicole thread, so I don't know what happening anymore. I think your duty as a DOOM member is to help me woo Mochalox and downplay my creepiness as much as possible. of course! i'll be sure not to tell her about the DOOM days involving that basement with chains and stuff. 
But you see, she turns up on a thread all cool, posts one time and then leaves. There's no way to get her attention in here. I don't want to be creepy, just nice, an honest, devoted guy, ya know, who admittedly is married and living thousands of miles away with a wife who he's known for several years, who's seen her pic and wonderful smile and wants to learn where her place of residence is so that he can keep tabs on how beautiful she is. Is that so much to ask??? 
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fhqwhgads said: evenstar3 said: of course! i'll be sure not to tell her about the DOOM days involving that basement with chains and stuff.
But you see, she turns up on a thread all cool, posts one time and then leaves. There's no way to get her attention in here. I don't want to be creepy, just nice, an honest, devoted guy, ya know, who admittedly is married and living thousands of miles away with a wife who he's known for several years, who's seen her pic and wonderful smile and wants to learn where her place of residence is so that he can keep tabs on how beautiful she is. Is that so much to ask???
... [Edited 8/2/07 11:12am] no, of course it isn't.  | |
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fhqwhgads said: evenstar3 said: of course! i'll be sure not to tell her about the DOOM days involving that basement with chains and stuff.
But you see, she turns up on a thread all cool, posts one time and then leaves. There's no way to get her attention in here. I don't want to be creepy, just nice, an honest, devoted guy, ya know, who admittedly is married and living thousands of miles away with a wife who he's known for several years, who's seen her pic and wonderful smile and wants to learn where her place of residence is so that he can keep tabs on how beautiful she is. Is that so much to ask???
... [Edited 8/2/07 11:12am] Does your wife read the org? | |
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gemini13 said: fhqwhgads said:
But you see, she turns up on a thread all cool, posts one time and then leaves. There's no way to get her attention in here. I don't want to be creepy, just nice, an honest, devoted guy, ya know, who admittedly is married and living thousands of miles away with a wife who he's known for several years, who's seen her pic and wonderful smile and wants to learn where her place of residence is so that he can keep tabs on how beautiful she is. Is that so much to ask???
... [Edited 8/2/07 11:12am] Does your wife read the org? she has her own org account, i think. | |
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evenstar3 said: gemini13 said: Does your wife read the org? she has her own org account, i think. Really? Maybe I'm just psycho or something, because if my husband ever wrote some of the stuff that Fauxie does, I would castrate him on the spot. 
P.S. Love you Fauxie  | |
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gemini13 said: fhqwhgads said:
But you see, she turns up on a thread all cool, posts one time and then leaves. There's no way to get her attention in here. I don't want to be creepy, just nice, an honest, devoted guy, ya know, who admittedly is married and living thousands of miles away with a wife who he's known for several years, who's seen her pic and wonderful smile and wants to learn where her place of residence is so that he can keep tabs on how beautiful she is. Is that so much to ask???
... [Edited 8/2/07 11:12am] Does your wife read the org? Yes, she does. And I love you too, truly. You're caustic and quite competent at being a bit of a bitch, but not altogether that bad when more than a single post is taken into consideration. I've really come to like you very much, really I have. 
Mon sees pretty much everything I post here. Did you see my post? Would anyone take that seriously? But still, I want Mochalox and I'll do anything to get her. ANYTHING. | |
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Is this a good place to tell Imago that I need to orgnote him when he logs on? I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies Whats it all worth only the heart can measure It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside | |
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fhqwhgads said: gemini13 said: Does your wife read the org? Yes, she does. And I love you too, truly. You're caustic and quite competent at being a bit of a bitch, but not altogether that bad when more than a single post is taken into consideration. I've really come to like you very much, really I have.
Mon sees pretty much everything I post here. Did you see my post? Would anyone take that seriously? But still, I want Mochalox and I'll do anything to get her. ANYTHING. Flattery will get you everywhere. Like I said, I'm kinda psycho when it comes to that. 
I'm working on it though. | |
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gemini13 said: fhqwhgads said: Yes, she does. And I love you too, truly. You're caustic and quite competent at being a bit of a bitch, but not altogether that bad when more than a single post is taken into consideration. I've really come to like you very much, really I have.
Mon sees pretty much everything I post here. Did you see my post? Would anyone take that seriously? But still, I want Mochalox and I'll do anything to get her. ANYTHING. Flattery will get you everywhere. Like I said, I'm kinda psycho when it comes to that.
I'm working on it though.
Lawd, I'm suffering this morning.  | |
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fhqwhgads said: gemini13 said: Flattery will get you everywhere. Like I said, I'm kinda psycho when it comes to that.
I'm working on it though.
Lawd, I'm suffering this morning. That's sooo weird that you've been sleeping all this time. It's still daytime here!
(And yes, I know about time zones) Hungover are we? | |
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gemini13 said: fhqwhgads said:
Lawd, I'm suffering this morning. That's sooo weird that you've been sleeping all this time. It's still daytime here!
(And yes, I know about time zones) Hungover are we? Kinda hungover. No headache, just a bit slow and foggy. It's nice to see I didn't start any stupid threads last night while drunk. | |
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fhqwhgads said: gemini13 said: That's sooo weird that you've been sleeping all this time. It's still daytime here!
(And yes, I know about time zones) Hungover are we? Kinda hungover. No headache, just a bit slow and foggy. It's nice to see I didn't start any stupid threads last night while drunk. Uh....yeeeah. | |
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gemini13 said: fhqwhgads said: Kinda hungover. No headache, just a bit slow and foggy. It's nice to see I didn't start any stupid threads last night while drunk. Uh....yeeeah. | |
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CalhounSq said: xplnyrslf said: A gamut of circumstances affect the ability of morbidly obese to change. Motivation, mobility, and being at the point of needing a physicians care to exercise as it's dangerous. It's with those who are in the 100# overweight description. There's cardiac issues. I'm no expert, but with gastric bypass surgery there's screening done and physical and psychological evaluations. At least with those I've spoken with, who have had this done in my community. I ran 8 miles today and lifted weights at the gym. (was out of town and hadn't exercised) I see the same addictions with exercise that I see with food. There are fanatics who run 60mile weeks. That's not healthy, either. All true, & I need to remember that. Having 2 morbidly obese youngsters in my family (where all but 2 of us have a weight problem) I'm basing it on what I see in my own backyard, which is an unwillingness to be absolutely honest about what HAS TO be done to lose weight. For a lot of people it's not some helpless genetic situation - all it took was a bad diet & large portions to gain & keep that kind of weight. & when you can't take a good honest look @ your habits & admit those things there's gonna be a lot of denial that prevents you from losing weight. I'm not saying it's easy, I imagine it's one of the hardest things one can do but you gotta be honest about it. Absolutely change what you eat, how much, how often & workout like fucking crazy (start slow, build up endurance & push it as far as you can). I know life gets in the way but I honestly think the surgery is seen as a quick fix to a problem that took years to manifest - people are more capable than they think, it can be done...  If people knew what they were in for with the banding and gastric bypass surgery, they'd try to lose weight another way. http://www.webmd.com/diet...ric-bypass http://www.webmd.com/diet...eight-loss For banding, there's persistant nausea and vomiting. A nurse I work with had this done. With Bariatric surgery (bypass) there's dumping syndrome, electrolyte imbalances, not to mention the loose tissue and pendulous abdomen that needs to be removed by a plastic surgeon. Brings "No pain, no gain" to a higher level..... Think about this: Your mind is still tuned in to eating, but the body isn't capable of the old habits after surgery. It's like pavlov's dog. You get enough negative stimulus(ie vomiting) from an act (eating), you stop doing it. I know people who have had these surgeries....they were miserable for 6 months to a year afterwards. Finally balanced out. [Edited 8/2/07 22:06pm] | |
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xplnyrslf said: CalhounSq said: All true, & I need to remember that. Having 2 morbidly obese youngsters in my family (where all but 2 of us have a weight problem) I'm basing it on what I see in my own backyard, which is an unwillingness to be absolutely honest about what HAS TO be done to lose weight. For a lot of people it's not some helpless genetic situation - all it took was a bad diet & large portions to gain & keep that kind of weight. & when you can't take a good honest look @ your habits & admit those things there's gonna be a lot of denial that prevents you from losing weight. I'm not saying it's easy, I imagine it's one of the hardest things one can do but you gotta be honest about it. Absolutely change what you eat, how much, how often & workout like fucking crazy (start slow, build up endurance & push it as far as you can). I know life gets in the way but I honestly think the surgery is seen as a quick fix to a problem that took years to manifest - people are more capable than they think, it can be done... If people knew what they were in for with the banding and gastric bypass surgery, they'd try to lose weight another way. http://www.webmd.com/diet...ric-bypass http://www.webmd.com/diet...eight-loss For banding, there's persistant nausea and vomiting. A nurse I work with had this done. With Bariatric surgery (bypass) there's dumping syndrome, electolyte imbalances, not to mention the loose tissue and pendulous abdomen that needs to be removed by a plastic surgeon. Brings "No pain, no gain" to a higher level..... I beg to differ with both of you. I had the lap-band sugery on 5/23 and haven't had any complications. That's why I chose it over the bypass, though I know of many bypass people who don't get sick very often, if at all. The skin sagging depends on how much weight you lose and how quickly you lose it, your age and genetics. With the band, weight loss is slower so your skin has time to adjust vs. the byapsss where people can drop 30-50 lbs. in a month. The younger you are (I'm 33) the more elastic your skin is and the less likely it is to sag. I also don't have a big stomach or arms- I'm primarily thighs and titties. Lastly, genetics play a role too- my grandmother is 81 and wrinkle free, As far as "the old fashioned way", I've had some heated arguments and been ready to chop folks heads off about "I'm capable of doing it myself, eat less, exercise more, deal with the issues that have resulted in my overeating", etc. The surgeries are marketed as quick fixes, but do you really think those of us who had the surgery woke up one day and said "oh gee, I'm 150 lbs. overweight, I think I'll have surgery". Do you think we didn't try diets and exercise? Yes they work if you stick with them, but some of us in the human race have broken brains cuz we sure as hell can't. It's kind of like telling an alcoholic, "just stop drinking". For someone who truly suffers from the disease of alcoholism, that's a joke. . Star Jones is not an ideal example for bariatric surgery imo because she said she's worried about what others think and didn't want to exercise, so she apparently took the easy way out. I've gone through and am still going through therapy and 12 step programs to deal with my addiction and other issues. BTW=the band basically makes the top part of the tummy smaller so you can only hold a limited amount of food at a time. That food must be chewed thoroughly and eaten slowly or it will get "stuck" in your esophagus and cause a yucky feeling and spitting. All food you eat is absorbed, unlike the bypass so we don't often suffer from the same vitamin deficiencies. In short, I can't overeat, even if I try and I have to monitor what I put in my system cuz it can only hold so much. Star Jones is too skinny now, she should have stopped at 100 lbs. [Edited 8/2/07 21:52pm] | |
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Everyone has their own experiences. My description is based on those I know who had one or the other.
The individual who had the band was in the bathroom, vomiting at work, whenever the band was adjusted. She couldn't eat. She thoroughly researched the procedure and this wasn't atypical. I've seen several individuals through the department with "pendulectomy" as a surgery, 2ndary to weight loss from gastric bypass. Skin that hangs below the pubis. The individuals I'm refering to are 40-50. They tend to be female. When obesity is a cause of other health problems, such as this age group, drastic measures are taken. And with this age, plastic surgery is an expected part of treatment. Someone in their 30's with good genes, I agree is a different story..... | |
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xplnyrslf said: Everyone has their own experiences. My description is based on those I know who had one or the other.
The individual who had the band was in the bathroom, vomiting at work, whenever the band was adjusted. She couldn't eat. She thoroughly researched the procedure and this wasn't atypical. I've seen several individuals through the department with "pendulectomy" as a surgery, 2ndary to weight loss from gastric bypass. Skin that hangs below the pubis. The individuals I'm refering to are 40-50. They tend to be female. When obesity is a cause of other health problems, such as this age group, drastic measures are taken. And with this age, plastic surgery is an expected part of treatment. Someone in their 30's with good genes, I agree is a different story..... I understand what you are saying, but it is frustrating because often we only hear of the negative stories associated with the procedures, so it is hard not to be defensive. Sounds like your friend had a bad adjustment. That is only typical because many doctors lack the proper equipment and expertise. My doctor is at Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, and the director of the Center for Weight Loss Surgery was one of the pioneering surgeons to get the lap-band procedure approved by the FDA. They also do thousands of gastric bypasses. For the band they use a floroscope (sp?) and have patients drink barium as they are doing the adjustment so they can actually see the fluid going down to make sure the band isn't too tight. If a doctor doesn't have this machine, he/she goes in blindly and often makes the band too tight- this sounds like what happened to your friend. Also, many people (patients and doctors) think "tighter is better" when it comes to the band and don't realize it's important to build restriction gradually. I hope your friend is ok. | |
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Rhondab said: Am I the only one who thinks she looks better in the bigger pic.... Not at all. I think she's lost too much weight. She's got that sunken eye and chicken neck look now. She was kinda pretty when she big, but not anymore. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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beautifulone7 said: xplnyrslf said: Everyone has their own experiences. My description is based on those I know who had one or the other.
The individual who had the band was in the bathroom, vomiting at work, whenever the band was adjusted. She couldn't eat. She thoroughly researched the procedure and this wasn't atypical. I've seen several individuals through the department with "pendulectomy" as a surgery, 2ndary to weight loss from gastric bypass. Skin that hangs below the pubis. The individuals I'm refering to are 40-50. They tend to be female. When obesity is a cause of other health problems, such as this age group, drastic measures are taken. And with this age, plastic surgery is an expected part of treatment. Someone in their 30's with good genes, I agree is a different story..... I understand what you are saying, but it is frustrating because often we only hear of the negative stories associated with the procedures, so it is hard not to be defensive. Sounds like your friend had a bad adjustment. That is only typical because many doctors lack the proper equipment and expertise. My doctor is at Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, and the director of the Center for Weight Loss Surgery was one of the pioneering surgeons to get the lap-band procedure approved by the FDA. They also do thousands of gastric bypasses. For the band they use a floroscope (sp?) and have patients drink barium as they are doing the adjustment so they can actually see the fluid going down to make sure the band isn't too tight. If a doctor doesn't have this machine, he/she goes in blindly and often makes the band too tight- this sounds like what happened to your friend. Also, many people (patients and doctors) think "tighter is better" when it comes to the band and don't realize it's important to build restriction gradually. I hope your friend is ok. She is OK. It was rough going the 1st 6 months. It's good news to hear the banding surgery can go well. Not all specialists nation-wide have the proficiency of one of the inventors, unfortunately.
It's always a good idea, when seeking a physician, to spend the time looking at credentials, background experience, and reputation. I read magazines with "top 100 physicians in America" and question how some physicians I'm familiar with, are listed. Malpractice history and disciplinary action is also important to research. | |
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