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irrisistableB said: ok we are talking about a freaking football player not a political figure or some upstanding righteous citizen. I like animals too but these PETA people take it too far. I live near Atlanta and two of them came into a sports apparell store demanding that Vick items be banned. THERE IS NOT A CONVICTION IDIOTS!!! CHILL THE F OUT. I think there is more heartwrenching issues happening right now like the people that die everyday in IRAQ He's just a football player be mad at our President for petes sake.
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uPtoWnNY said: You know what gets me? I don't see this kind of outrage when players are accused of beating their wives or girlfriends. The hate for this dude is unreal. Yes, animal cruelty is bad, but human cruelty is much worse.
Adult human beings have far more options and ways to defend themselves against violence than animals... we feel more outraged when it is the helpless that is being attacked... a helpless being that did nothing to warrant the attack. It is the same reason we feel more outraged when a child is being abused rather than an adult. A situation where a woman has the ways and means to leave an abusive boyfriend isn't going to spark the same level of outrage from me. [Edited 7/27/07 7:55am] | |
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I'm a VT grad and Michael Vick is in large part responsible for Tech busting out on the national scene for college football. I love to watch it and it's fun that Tech is good. But, I have to say, the guy's an idiot. I don't care what color he is--if he's guilty then be punished. If he's not then don't. He's obviously not making very wise choices and don't even get me started on his bonehead of a brother, Marcus.  | |
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mdiver said: DarkKnight1 said: Depends on the human. I guess there we have part of the reason the world is fucked up The world IS fucked up because of humans, not dogs. Dog fighting is just another example of man's need to have power over everything. Fucked up indeed. (Insert something clever here) |
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DarkKnight1 said: mdiver said: I guess there we have part of the reason the world is fucked up The world IS fucked up because of humans, not dogs. Dog fighting is just another example of man's need to have power over everything. Fucked up indeed. I agree, but to value a dogs life over a person.....that is fucked up | |
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mdiver said: DarkKnight1 said: The world IS fucked up because of humans, not dogs. Dog fighting is just another example of man's need to have power over everything. Fucked up indeed. I agree, but to value a dogs life over a person.....that is fucked up You'd value a human's life over a dog's no matter what horrible things that human did? | |
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mdiver said: DarkKnight1 said: The world IS fucked up because of humans, not dogs. Dog fighting is just another example of man's need to have power over everything. Fucked up indeed. I agree, but to value a dogs life over a person.....that is fucked up I see where you are going, and for the most part, I agree. But the blanket statement of valuing a dog's life over a humans is too simplistic. (Insert something clever here) |
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DarkKnight1 said: mdiver said: I agree, but to value a dogs life over a person.....that is fucked up I see where you are going, and for the most part, I agree. But the blanket statement of valuing a dog's life over a humans is too simplistic. Definitely too simplistic. I mean we have dogs that risk their own lives to save others... then we have humans like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy... I think it's ridiculous to say that every human being's life is more valuable than every dog's life. | |
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irrisistableB said: ok we are talking about a freaking football player not a political figure or some upstanding righteous citizen. I like animals too but these PETA people take it too far. I live near Atlanta and two of them came into a sports apparell store demanding that Vick items be banned. THERE IS NOT A CONVICTION IDIOTS!!! CHILL THE F OUT. I think there is more heartwrenching issues happening right now like the people that die everyday in IRAQ He's just a football player be mad at our President for petes sake.
So, until the war is over we should just ingnore everything else in the world? If George Bush did it, then would it be okay to be mad? (Insert something clever here) |
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DarkKnight1 said: irrisistableB said: ok we are talking about a freaking football player not a political figure or some upstanding righteous citizen. I like animals too but these PETA people take it too far. I live near Atlanta and two of them came into a sports apparell store demanding that Vick items be banned. THERE IS NOT A CONVICTION IDIOTS!!! CHILL THE F OUT. I think there is more heartwrenching issues happening right now like the people that die everyday in IRAQ He's just a football player be mad at our President for petes sake.
So, until the war is over we should just ingnore everything else in the world? If George Bush did it, then would it be okay to be mad?  I love when people try to tell other people what to be upset about. | |
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2Jay said: I hate Michael Vick. the dogfighting was just the tip of the iceburg, he also was involved in unprotected sex. I read that people believe Michael's guilty because he's black. they said that if it was Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, they would say, lets see if hes innocent.
Totally Untrue. I'm black and I hate Michael Vick. We should starve him, put him in a cage with another dogfighter, and make them fight. If he loses, we'll hang him and then execute him. If he wins, who cares? We'll still kill him. LONG LIVE ANIMAL RIGHTS!! DOWN WITH MICHAEL VICK!! What ever happen to innocent until proven guilty? Were you there and saw Mike Vick actually handling a dog? Let the courts and the evidence decide his guilt or innocent. There was a case not too long ago....Duke Lacrosse, and people rushed to judge the players as being this evil group of spoiled rich white kids. My point is, let the courts figure this mess out. And, animal rights? What about human rights? We have more humans being sexually abused, kidnapped, imprisoned and all sorts of other funky business, and nothing is being done. I love animals and I would never try hurt one, unless it was harming me or my family. But animal rights? What about human rights. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara |
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2Jay said: I hate Michael Vick. the dogfighting was just the tip of the iceburg, he also was involved in unprotected sex. I read that people believe Michael's guilty because he's black. they said that if it was Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, they would say, lets see if hes innocent.
Totally Untrue. I'm black and I hate Michael Vick. We should starve him, put him in a cage with another dogfighter, and make them fight. If he loses, we'll hang him and then execute him. If he wins, who cares? We'll still kill him. LONG LIVE ANIMAL RIGHTS!! DOWN WITH MICHAEL VICK!!  | |
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live4lust said: DarkKnight1 said: So, until the war is over we should just ingnore everything else in the world? If George Bush did it, then would it be okay to be mad? I love when people try to tell other people what to be upset about.Seriously. (Insert something clever here) |
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BlackAdder7 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Some people say that people hate barry bonds because he's black. Um, no. He's an asshole! That's why people hate him
Oh, I hate this douche too, even though I love how he uses his bat and balls  It obviously takes a woman to understand that sentence.Read between the lines.Right Supa? [Edited 7/27/07 13:12pm] Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song 
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reneGade20 said: As a New Orleans Saints fan, I can't stand Michael Vick, the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons.....
As an American citizen, I would like very much for the man to have his due process in court and not to have his case tried in the press...Innocent until PROVEN guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt is one of the sacred tenets of our system of justice....and this rush to judgement is not productive in the least.... Personally, I'm wondering if many of the people calling for him to be killed or hurt for cruelty to these pit bulls are among the voices to eradicate the breed as a whole whenever a child is attacked by one of these same dogs... Yeah, I am, i can't stand people. They got the world so fucked up and overcrowded and inequal, who cares if another one dies? But dogs are important and would give their lives for humans, even though humans wouldn't do the same for them. | |
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irrisistableB said: ok we are talking about a freaking football player not a political figure or some upstanding righteous citizen. I like animals too but these PETA people take it too far. I live near Atlanta and two of them came into a sports apparell store demanding that Vick items be banned. THERE IS NOT A CONVICTION IDIOTS!!! CHILL THE F OUT. I think there is more heartwrenching issues happening right now like the people that die everyday in IRAQ He's just a football player be mad at our President for petes sake.
Why can't people be angry about both? Why do so many people try to make one issue about something else? | |
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reneGade20 said: uPtoWnNY said: You know what gets me? I don't see this kind of outrage when players are accused of beating their wives or girlfriends. The hate for this dude is unreal. Yes, animal cruelty is bad, but human cruelty is much worse. Very true.... I think the animal cruelty hits ppl hard because the animal is defenseless and does not choice who they are with and they do not choice the kind of lifestyle they are going to live. I guess we assume it is up to humans to be civilized enough to care for animals and all of gods creatures properly. I have a problem with putting humans way up high on a pedestal.They only disappoint. I feel for all abused creatures but I think he should be innocent until proven guilty. This is still America...right?  [Edited 7/27/07 16:18pm] | |
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2Jay said: I hate Michael Vick. the dogfighting was just the tip of the iceburg, he also was involved in unprotected sex. I read that people believe Michael's guilty because he's black. they said that if it was Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, they would say, lets see if hes innocent.
Totally Untrue. I'm black and I hate Michael Vick. We should starve him, put him in a cage with another dogfighter, and make them fight. If he loses, we'll hang him and then execute him. If he wins, who cares? We'll still kill him. LONG LIVE ANIMAL RIGHTS!! DOWN WITH MICHAEL VICK!! Uh yeah I bet every and anyone who has ever given birth to a child is guilty of that 
Anyway that dude is a bitch and I hope he get a big fine for that shit. Um..right in2 my bank account  Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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