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Reply #30 posted 07/25/07 8:51am

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There's even more sex offenders in the USA, I should delete my citizenship!
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Reply #31 posted 07/25/07 9:25am

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The fact that there are sex offenders on myspace is completely unsurprising to me. But that number is pretty damn high. And that's just the registered sex offenders disbelief
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Reply #32 posted 07/25/07 9:28am

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ArielB said:

I wonder how they manage to find them, or decide who is a sex offender hmmm


They are probably basing it on the list of known sex offeners that have been convicted at one time or another.

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Reply #33 posted 07/25/07 9:37am

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I have just heard facebook may be closing down! eek
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Reply #34 posted 07/25/07 10:12am

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Ironically they are all Michael Jackson fans. lol
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Reply #35 posted 07/25/07 10:14am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Ironically they are all Michael Jackson fans. lol



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Reply #36 posted 07/25/07 11:04am

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Ya know. . .sigh

SO many sex offenders aren't evil monsters. They're people who, like, banged a 15-year-old when they were 20. They did some dumbass thing one time, did their time, and got branded for life. It's not right.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of people who use myspace in a predatory way are not (yet) registered sex offenders. So, this isn't going to solve anything. It just further stigmatizes people who may or may not really deserve that.

The internet is not safe for unsupervised kids any more than your average city street. And I, for one, don't want it to be. I'm all for solving society's problems, so that the streets AND the net are safer. But in the meantime, I can't support any solution besides parental responsibility.


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Reply #37 posted 07/25/07 11:30am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Ironically they are all Michael Jackson fans. lol


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Reply #38 posted 07/25/07 1:15pm

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ArielB said:

I wonder how they manage to find them, or decide who is a sex offender hmmm


They are probably basing it on the list of known sex offenders that have been convicted at one time or another.

So sex offenders are never allowed to be part of an online community?
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Reply #39 posted 07/25/07 1:59pm

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some parents don't care what their kids see online....hell my mom had me on parental controls at 18 still geesh, but yeah very sad...
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Reply #40 posted 07/25/07 3:05pm

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

Ya know. . .sigh
SO many sex offenders aren't evil monsters. They're people who, like, banged a 15-year-old when they were 20. They did some dumbass thing one time, did their time, and got branded for life. It's not right.


I've thought this, too. It's not fair to compare that to someone who molests a 7 year old or violently rapes someone.
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Reply #41 posted 07/25/07 4:32pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Ya know. . .sigh

SO many sex offenders aren't evil monsters. They're people who, like, banged a 15-year-old when they were 20. They did some dumbass thing one time, did their time, and got branded for life. It's not right.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of people who use myspace in a predatory way are not (yet) registered sex offenders. So, this isn't going to solve anything. It just further stigmatizes people who may or may not really deserve that.

The internet is not safe for unsupervised kids any more than your average city street. And I, for one, don't want it to be. I'm all for solving society's problems, so that the streets AND the net are safer. But in the meantime, I can't support any solution besides parental responsibility.


clapping The reason stuff like this crops up is because there are a bunch of lazy parents out there who refuse to take care of and teach their kids. If your 14 year old daughter goes out to meet some creep from Myspace, then your 14 year old daughter is a dumbass and you didn't teach her well.

Letting your kids get on the net and not supervising them is like dropping them off in a sketchy part of town and letting them figure it out themselves. Too many lazy parents who shouldn't have kids in the first place. disbelief



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We had a cop come to my school and do a big show for the kids about this... I think it scared the crap out of them. biggrin But we all felt like the school was doing the parents job for them. confused
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Reply #42 posted 07/25/07 4:59pm

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guitarslinger44 said:



clapping The reason stuff like this crops up is because there are a bunch of lazy parents out there who refuse to take care of and teach their kids. If your 14 year old daughter goes out to meet some creep from Myspace, then your 14 year old daughter is a dumbass and you didn't teach her well.

Letting your kids get on the net and not supervising them is like dropping them off in a sketchy part of town and letting them figure it out themselves. Too many lazy parents who shouldn't have kids in the first place. disbelief



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We had a cop come to my school and do a big show for the kids about this... I think it scared the crap out of them. biggrin But we all felt like the school was doing the parents job for them. confused

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Reply #43 posted 07/25/07 5:25pm

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Reply #44 posted 07/25/07 7:26pm

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Is anyone watching Dateline/NBC's "To Catch a Predator" now? It's amazing what these sick pr!cks will go through to have sex with kids. One idiot showed up in a stolen van.

I'd blow their family jewels off as soon as they walked through the door, but that's just me.
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Reply #45 posted 07/26/07 6:10am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Is anyone watching Dateline/NBC's "To Catch a Predator" now? It's amazing what these sick pr!cks will go through to have sex with kids. One idiot showed up in a stolen van.

I'd blow their family jewels off as soon as they walked through the door, but that's just me.


I have watched the a couple times - just amazing on such a sad level really
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Reply #46 posted 08/10/07 8:30pm

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HereToRockYourWorld said:

Ya know. . .sigh

SO many sex offenders aren't evil monsters. They're people who, like, banged a 15-year-old when they were 20. They did some dumbass thing one time, did their time, and got branded for life. It's not right.


In some states, even a conviction for consensual adult sodomy can result in sex offender registration.

(Side note: despite the Lawrence v. Texas U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2003, a few states are still convicting people under sodomy laws. In particular, I've read three North Carolina Court of Appeals decisions that upheld consensual adult sodomy convictions and specifically rejected the argument that Lawrence precluded such prosecutions.)

For various reasons, I don't support sex offender registries. One of them is the problem you raised; i.e., they're over-inclusive. Other issues:

  • If the purpose of these registries is to protect the public from crime, then they're also under-inclusive. As an adult male with no children, I'm not terribly worried about a rapist or child molester living near me. My crime concerns are things such as assault or burglary, but there's no registry I can check to see if anyone living in or near my building has a history of such crimes.
  • One common justification for sex offender registries is that people supposedly have a "right to know" if a sex offender is living near them. What's the basis for this alleged right? And if such a right exists, what else do I have a right to know about my neighbors?
  • These crimes usually involve a perpetrator who knows his/her victim (e.g., family member or teacher), not a stranger.
  • The notion that convicted sex offenders are likely to re-offend is questionable, at least in light of the data that I've seen.
  • As we've seen on To Catch a Predator, plenty of potential offenders will travel many miles from home in order to commit a sex crime. Checking a database for sex offenders in your neighborhood won't turn up these people.
  • There are various constitutional problems that I won't get into here. In general, courts haven't been too receptive to constitutional arguments against registration laws, but Hawaii's registry has been effectively shut down on due process grounds.
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Reply #47 posted 08/10/07 9:04pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Is anyone watching Dateline/NBC's "To Catch a Predator" now?


I enjoy watching the show, but it's something of a guilty pleasure. boxed There are many, many problems with the whole thing. These articles do a good job of exploring some of the issues:

One additional concern is that Chris Hansen seems to have no problem with leading the "predators" to believe he's a cop. If they ask, his usual answer is, "I'll get to that in a moment." Sure, he eventually comes clean and reveals, "I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC," but only after he's extracted damaging and/or entertaining statements out of the "predator."

I haven't researched whether this is viable, but if I were defending one of the Dateline "predators," I'd consider the idea of trying to have Chris' interview thrown out on the theory that Chris is the functional equivalent of a police officer (he's working with the police and leading at least some of the defendants to believe that he is a police officer), and accordingly, the interview amounts to a custodial interrogation that requires a reading of Miranda rights. ("You have the right to remain silent.... You have the right to an attorney....") I can think of a few Supreme Court cases that would support this concept.
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