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Is There Any Such Thing As Happiness? All of my friends including me are 17 and we all have completely stuffed up lives. I look around me and all I see is broken families and teenagers hurting. I know teenage years are emotional and hormones are raging etc but it seems like every family is unhappy these days.
I don't know - I'm going through a rough stage right now but is there any such thing as happiness? Or do we just keep trying to reach for it like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? Then one day you realise "Hey people were just saying that to make me believe". | |
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purplesweat said: All of my friends including me are 17 and we all have completely stuffed up lives. I look around me and all I see is broken families and teenagers hurting. I know teenage years are emotional and hormones are raging etc but it seems like every family is unhappy these days.
I don't know - I'm going through a rough stage right now but is there any such thing as happiness? Or do we just keep trying to reach for it like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? Then one day you realise "Hey people were just saying that to make me believe". the journey is worth the trip Jess | |
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Yes there is. But you need to know yourself before you know what ultimately makes you happy and that takes time. It is a learning curve with pain and growth along the way.
Take the pain and use it to learn and make you a better person. NEVER let it get you down. Everything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Pain is a necessity of this life because if we did not feel pain we would have no fram eof reference for happiness. Good luck  | |
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mdiver said: Yes there is. But you need to know yourself before you know what ultimately makes you happy and that takes time. It is a learning curve with pain and growth along the way.
Take the pain and use it to learn and make you a better person. NEVER let it get you down. Everything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Pain is a necessity of this life because if we did not feel pain we would have no fram eof reference for happiness]. Good luck I don't agree. I don't think the pain I have been through in my life has made me stronger, I have the feeling it has made me weaker. It's true that you may cherish things more and don't take them for granted when you have been through hard times. But on the other hand you realize how fragile happiness is and that every second something expected or totally unexpected might happen in your life that may take your happiness away. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Serious said: mdiver said: Yes there is. But you need to know yourself before you know what ultimately makes you happy and that takes time. It is a learning curve with pain and growth along the way.
Take the pain and use it to learn and make you a better person. NEVER let it get you down. Everything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Pain is a necessity of this life because if we did not feel pain we would have no fram eof reference for happiness]. Good luck I don't agree. I don't think the pain I have been through in my life has made me stronger, I have the feeling it has made me weaker. It's true that you may cherish things more and don't take them for granted when you have been through hard times. But on the other hand you realize how fragile happiness is and that every second something expected or totally unexpected might happen in your life that may take your happiness away. That's very true. Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday.
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Serious said: mdiver said: Yes there is. But you need to know yourself before you know what ultimately makes you happy and that takes time. It is a learning curve with pain and growth along the way.
Take the pain and use it to learn and make you a better person. NEVER let it get you down. Everything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Pain is a necessity of this life because if we did not feel pain we would have no fram eof reference for happiness]. Good luck I don't agree. I don't think the pain I have been through in my life has made me stronger, I have the feeling it has made me weaker. It's true that you may cherish things more and don't take them for granted when you have been through hard times. But on the other hand you realize how fragile happiness is and that every second something expected or totally unexpected might happen in your life that may take your happiness away. 
I guess to me it comes down to the way we deal with pain. I understand that pain often makes us feel weak but with a positive look at it and an analysis of what caused it,how we reacted and what we can do to use that energy to better ourselves then we can use it to make us stronger. ANY situation can be positive or negative for us....it comes down to how WE USE IT. IMHO | |
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mdiver said: Serious said: I don't agree. I don't think the pain I have been through in my life has made me stronger, I have the feeling it has made me weaker. It's true that you may cherish things more and don't take them for granted when you have been through hard times. But on the other hand you realize how fragile happiness is and that every second something expected or totally unexpected might happen in your life that may take your happiness away.
I guess to me it comes down to the way we deal with pain. I understand that pain often makes us feel weak but with a positive look at it and an analysis of what caused it,how we reacted and what we can do to use that energy to better ourselves then we can use it to make us stronger. ANY situation can be positive or negative for us....it comes down to how WE USE IT. IMHO
Maybe I haven't dealt with pain the way it would have helped me for my future (and present) life. But we are all different and some people are stronger than others.There have been things that I had to get through in my life that even though they may have had some side affects that you could see as positive as well overall they were experiences I just wish I had never made. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Serious said: mdiver said:
I guess to me it comes down to the way we deal with pain. I understand that pain often makes us feel weak but with a positive look at it and an analysis of what caused it,how we reacted and what we can do to use that energy to better ourselves then we can use it to make us stronger. ANY situation can be positive or negative for us....it comes down to how WE USE IT. IMHO
Maybe I haven't dealt with pain the way it would have helped me for my future (and present) life. But we are all different and some people are stronger than others.There have been things that I had to get through in my life that even though they may have had some side affects that you could see as positive as well overall they were experiences I just wish I had never made.
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mdiver said: Serious said:
Maybe I haven't dealt with pain the way it would have helped me for my future (and present) life. But we are all different and some people are stronger than others.There have been things that I had to get through in my life that even though they may have had some side affects that you could see as positive as well overall they were experiences I just wish I had never made.
Thank you With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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I think sometimes with happiness we try to do what makes other ppl happy. We see others and try to do what they are doing to find happiness and we all find happiness in different forms and places.
Some times we also expect it to fall in our laps without working for it. | |
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It exists. I struggle with the notion of permanent happiness or a state of bliss.
The easiest way to feel happy is to help somebody. I don't mean a massive gesture. I get a real buzz from helping people with bags on the underground, It sounds cheesy, but for a few seconds after you give their bag back I have a warm, "happy" glow. I don't think it needs to be hard. Hold a door open for someone, complement a colleague or friend it's pretty easy to feel happy. Just not to maintain it. I am working on it though, I will let you know. Needless to say it requires effort. Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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PREDOMINANT said: It exists. I struggle with the notion of permanent happiness or a state of bliss.
The easiest way to feel happy is to help somebody. I don't mean a massive gesture. I get a real buzz from helping people with bags on the underground, It sounds cheesy, but for a few seconds after you give their bag back I have a warm, "happy" glow. I don't think it needs to be hard. Hold a door open for someone, complement a colleague or friend it's pretty easy to feel happy. Just not to maintain it. I am working on it though, I will let you know. Needless to say it requires effort. It does require effort and a cold hard look into ourselves as well...which can be scary. | |
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Yes. Life is both. It helps me to know that when I'm down that ups are in my future. And I am up today! Thank god for Lexapro!  Socks still got butt like a leather seat... | |
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CynthiasSocks said: Yes. Life is both. It helps me to know that when I'm down that ups are in my future. And I am up today! Thank god for Lexapro!
Glad to hear | |
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purplesweat said: All of my friends including me are 17 and we all have completely stuffed up lives. I look around me and all I see is broken families and teenagers hurting. I know teenage years are emotional and hormones are raging etc but it seems like every family is unhappy these days.
I don't know - I'm going through a rough stage right now but is there any such thing as happiness? Or do we just keep trying to reach for it like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? Then one day you realise "Hey people were just saying that to make me believe". There are degrees of happiness in every moment of each day - sometimes a person can get so caught up in the pains of life that they can not see in each moment the reasons to be happy health free will choices friends are just a small example to choose from for each moment to build your degrees of happiness No one is happy 100% of the time ... it seems though people that are happy over all find and build up those degrees of happiness instead of building onto pain and suffering - do the suffer and have pain YES but their free will and choices to find happiness in simple things overrides.
Make a list of all the things today that you have to be happy about or that would make you happy ...or things you could choose to change that could build your degree of happiness | |
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Great post Mach. 
It seems happiness isn't a fixed set of goal posts. It really depends on the individual and how they deal with what comes their way. Of course, we can all think of certain things we nearly all agree on that we can associate with happiness, but it seems the learning curve mdiver spoke about is what it's all about. As you yourself grow then happiness changes, and hopefully the ability to find happiness and new ways to be happy come with that. How you look at things seems to define happiness more than some great overall pre-defined set of conditions. Our lives are all so different, yet we strive to be, and deserve to be, happy. For some it's a way bigger ask than for others, but still the key seems to be making your own definition by way of how you look at life, how you react to hardship and how much you learn and grow as a person as you live your life. | |
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