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Reply #30 posted 07/22/07 10:06am

mrdespues

shanti0608 said:

mrdespues said:




Not this guy.

I see what I want and need but know I can't have it.

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Well this guy better remember that he has a friend to talk to if he needs it...don't be too think that realise that
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Reply #31 posted 07/22/07 10:22am

shanti0608

mrdespues said:

shanti0608 said:




Well this guy better remember that he has a friend to talk to if he needs it...don't be too think that realise that
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Reply #32 posted 07/22/07 8:49pm

ZombieKitten

shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:



comfort

mine did an annoying thing tonight mad

he said hey lets get a dvd and have a couple of drinks! "yeah!" I said excitedly, since this NEVER happens. Then after he drove off to blockbuster, the guitarist from the band knocked on the door and when I open is standing there with guitar and amp and effects rack.

neutral

I called the master to tell him dencha was here. He says "oh! I won't get the movie then"

neutral

they are recording as we speak.

neutral

mad


You need to set his ass down and tell him how that makes YOU feel when he does that and see what he says and does after you tell him.
One thing I have learned is that guys need to be told some times...they do not just get things like women do.
Guys are a bit thick sometimes and only see what they want and need.


he says we will do it tonight instead neutral
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Reply #33 posted 07/23/07 4:04am

shanti0608

ZombieKitten said:

shanti0608 said:



You need to set his ass down and tell him how that makes YOU feel when he does that and see what he says and does after you tell him.
One thing I have learned is that guys need to be told some times...they do not just get things like women do.
Guys are a bit thick sometimes and only see what they want and need.


he says we will do it tonight instead neutral


Well if he promises something and does not deliver or if it is not what you want you need to say something.
I hate to say it but they do not assume or go out on a limb to figure us out..at least the men I have experienced in the past haven't. They do not tend to do that until they have lost something and have learned the hard way.
I was always told it was up to me to tell them the score - out right loud and clear then it is up to them to do some work as well.
hug
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Reply #34 posted 07/23/07 4:26am

Mach

ZombieKitten said:

retina said:




Yeah, she has a nasty habit of not existing. disbelief


comfort

mine did an annoying thing tonight mad

he said hey lets get a dvd and have a couple of drinks! "yeah!" I said excitedly, since this NEVER happens. Then after he drove off to blockbuster, the guitarist from the band knocked on the door and when I open is standing there with guitar and amp and effects rack.

neutral

I called the master to tell him dencha was here. He says "oh! I won't get the movie then"

neutral

they are recording as we speak.

neutral

mad
That's just unkind and rude ... much like a young teen boy would act


boxed

sorry sometimes I blahblah opinions without being asked

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Reply #35 posted 07/23/07 4:37am

Ottensen

gemini13 said:

ZombieKitten said:



comfort

mine did an annoying thing tonight mad

he said hey lets get a dvd and have a couple of drinks! "yeah!" I said excitedly, since this NEVER happens. Then after he drove off to blockbuster, the guitarist from the band knocked on the door and when I open is standing there with guitar and amp and effects rack.

neutral

I called the master to tell him dencha was here. He says "oh! I won't get the movie then"

neutral

they are recording as we speak.

neutral

mad



Does this guy do this shit to you all the time? PLUS you don't have sex much??

Oh, honey.....we must talk.



wave I've got the cake baked if you guys wanna come over nod

...and I have a little something in the cabinet in the living room to er, um, 'spice up' the coffee and tea if need be cool
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Reply #36 posted 07/23/07 4:38am

shanti0608

Mach said:

ZombieKitten said:



comfort

mine did an annoying thing tonight mad

he said hey lets get a dvd and have a couple of drinks! "yeah!" I said excitedly, since this NEVER happens. Then after he drove off to blockbuster, the guitarist from the band knocked on the door and when I open is standing there with guitar and amp and effects rack.

neutral

I called the master to tell him dencha was here. He says "oh! I won't get the movie then"

neutral

they are recording as we speak.

neutral

mad
That's just unkind and rude ... much like a young teen boy would act


boxed

sorry sometimes I blahblah opinions without being asked

hug



He needs to be told how it effects her and then see if he is grown up enough to do something about it.
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Reply #37 posted 07/23/07 4:45am

Mach

shanti0608 said:

Mach said:

That's just unkind and rude ... much like a young teen boy would act


boxed

sorry sometimes I blahblah opinions without being asked

hug



He needs to be told how it effects her and then see if he is grown up enough to do something about it.


It's true nod

Most couples seem to not communicate to each other about things such as this. It really is just simply rude to make plans with a person then to switch/blow them off simply because an outside person shows up/calls- whatever. Then one feels hurt and the other thinks all is well, when it's NOT shrug

Yeah - I would be having a chat with the "master" soon - very soon
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Reply #38 posted 07/23/07 4:47am

shanti0608

Mach said:

shanti0608 said:




He needs to be told how it effects her and then see if he is grown up enough to do something about it.


It's true nod

Most couples seem to not communicate to each other about things such as this. It really is just simply rude to make plans with a person then to switch/blow them off simply because an outside person shows up/calls- whatever. Then one feels hurt and the other thinks all is well, when it's NOT shrug

Yeah - I would be having a chat with the "master" soon - very soon



nod

Soon is best...trust me. Take it from someone who has learned the hard way.
The sooner the better.

hug


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Reply #39 posted 07/23/07 4:22pm

ZombieKitten

shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:



he says we will do it tonight instead neutral


Well if he promises something and does not deliver or if it is not what you want you need to say something.
I hate to say it but they do not assume or go out on a limb to figure us out..at least the men I have experienced in the past haven't. They do not tend to do that until they have lost something and have learned the hard way.
I was always told it was up to me to tell them the score - out right loud and clear then it is up to them to do some work as well.
hug


he poured me some drinks, put on a movie, I fell asleep a third of the way through, so he switched it off. I got in the shower and started to cry, then I couldn't stop. So I went to bed, he says what's wrong, he asks if I was going to sleep now and I nearly was asleep so he went to his studio and did music since it was only 9pm.
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Reply #40 posted 07/23/07 4:31pm

Serious

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ZombieKitten said:

shanti0608 said:



Well if he promises something and does not deliver or if it is not what you want you need to say something.
I hate to say it but they do not assume or go out on a limb to figure us out..at least the men I have experienced in the past haven't. They do not tend to do that until they have lost something and have learned the hard way.
I was always told it was up to me to tell them the score - out right loud and clear then it is up to them to do some work as well.
hug


he poured me some drinks, put on a movie, I fell asleep a third of the way through, so he switched it off. I got in the shower and started to cry, then I couldn't stop. So I went to bed, he says what's wrong, he asks if I was going to sleep now and I nearly was asleep so he went to his studio and did music since it was only 9pm.


comfort hug
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #41 posted 07/23/07 4:32pm

shanti0608

ZombieKitten said:

shanti0608 said:



Well if he promises something and does not deliver or if it is not what you want you need to say something.
I hate to say it but they do not assume or go out on a limb to figure us out..at least the men I have experienced in the past haven't. They do not tend to do that until they have lost something and have learned the hard way.
I was always told it was up to me to tell them the score - out right loud and clear then it is up to them to do some work as well.
hug


he poured me some drinks, put on a movie, I fell asleep a third of the way through, so he switched it off. I got in the shower and started to cry, then I couldn't stop. So I went to bed, he says what's wrong, he asks if I was going to sleep now and I nearly was asleep so he went to his studio and did music since it was only 9pm.



I know that you already know what I am going to say since you are a very smart lady. You need to tell him that you need some time alone with him - no tv, no music... just one on one talking.
Maybe you need to journal your thoughts and feelings for a bit - a few days maybe and then let him read it.
He needs to know how you are feeling- otherwise he will say to himself "well I asked her what's wrong and she did not say anything so there must not be anything wrong".
It will only eat you up inside if you do not let it out.

hug
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Reply #42 posted 07/23/07 4:47pm

Slave2daGroove

shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:



he poured me some drinks, put on a movie, I fell asleep a third of the way through, so he switched it off. I got in the shower and started to cry, then I couldn't stop. So I went to bed, he says what's wrong, he asks if I was going to sleep now and I nearly was asleep so he went to his studio and did music since it was only 9pm.



I know that you already know what I am going to say since you are a very smart lady. You need to tell him that you need some time alone with him - no tv, no music... just one on one talking.
Maybe you need to journal your thoughts and feelings for a bit - a few days maybe and then let him read it.
He needs to know how you are feeling- otherwise he will say to himself "well I asked her what's wrong and she did not say anything so there must not be anything wrong".
It will only eat you up inside if you do not let it out.

hug


this is really good advice and true.

Coming from a guy's perspective, after a while of being with someone the comfortableness experienced with someone so great and cool is mistaken for not caring. Then you throw in the whole women and men communicate differently and are really different animals, sometimes spelling it out during a one-on-one communication meeting is just necessary. It works both ways because of the same reasons I've just mentioned.

Otherwise what happens are bad actions based on miscommunications and assumptions (cheating, lies, avoidence, etc.). Oh yeah, then there's my favorite; it all comes out during a big argument that is totally unrelated to what the real problem is. "then that one time when you said let's watch a movie..." and he's like "what? I just forgot to get bread and milk and you are losing your mind and bringing up something from a month ago?!? WTF?"
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Reply #43 posted 07/23/07 4:49pm

ZombieKitten

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Reply #44 posted 07/23/07 4:52pm

shanti0608

Slave2daGroove said:

shanti0608 said:




I know that you already know what I am going to say since you are a very smart lady. You need to tell him that you need some time alone with him - no tv, no music... just one on one talking.
Maybe you need to journal your thoughts and feelings for a bit - a few days maybe and then let him read it.
He needs to know how you are feeling- otherwise he will say to himself "well I asked her what's wrong and she did not say anything so there must not be anything wrong".
It will only eat you up inside if you do not let it out.

hug


this is really good advice and true.

Coming from a guy's perspective, after a while of being with someone the comfortableness experienced with someone so great and cool is mistaken for not caring. Then you throw in the whole women and men communicate differently and are really different animals, sometimes spelling it out during a one-on-one communication meeting is just necessary. It works both ways because of the same reasons I've just mentioned.

Otherwise what happens are bad actions based on miscommunications and assumptions (cheating, lies, avoidence, etc.). Oh yeah, then there's my favorite; it all comes out during a big argument that is totally unrelated to what the real problem is. "then that one time when you said let's watch a movie..." and he's like "what? I just forgot to get bread and milk and you are losing your mind and bringing up something from a month ago?!? WTF?"



I speak from years of experience with a major non-communicator on every level.
I held it in as long as I could and it broke me...I snapped and actually so did he.
He was unable, unwilling or whatever to change or try but you really never know until you tell the other person how you feel and how their actions hurt you.

hug
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Reply #45 posted 07/23/07 4:53pm

shanti0608

ZombieKitten said:

grouphug



grouphug


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Reply #46 posted 07/23/07 5:02pm

vanessabfly

I have learned to be extremely explicit with my husband. I need to clearly explain what I need emotionally and physically. We recently got into it because I found myself always having to ask for help around the house. Then I'm in the position of being a nag. So my last explicit request was for him to be aware of things that need to be done around the house and to initiate getting those things done himself, without my asking.
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Reply #47 posted 07/23/07 5:29pm

Slave2daGroove

shanti0608 said:

Slave2daGroove said:



this is really good advice and true.

Coming from a guy's perspective, after a while of being with someone the comfortableness experienced with someone so great and cool is mistaken for not caring. Then you throw in the whole women and men communicate differently and are really different animals, sometimes spelling it out during a one-on-one communication meeting is just necessary. It works both ways because of the same reasons I've just mentioned.

Otherwise what happens are bad actions based on miscommunications and assumptions (cheating, lies, avoidence, etc.). Oh yeah, then there's my favorite; it all comes out during a big argument that is totally unrelated to what the real problem is. "then that one time when you said let's watch a movie..." and he's like "what? I just forgot to get bread and milk and you are losing your mind and bringing up something from a month ago?!? WTF?"



I speak from years of experience with a major non-communicator on every level.
I held it in as long as I could and it broke me...I snapped and actually so did he.
He was unable, unwilling or whatever to change or try but you really never know until you tell the other person how you feel and how their actions hurt you.

hug


hug nobody should let their life go this route, realizing you have the power to change things is a major part for most people.

Being too damn lazy is something else completely. Relationships are a give and take and work at some points. Some people are worth it because they're the love of your life and they're willing to do the work (couldn't resist) or they fall into the other category.

To me, if I'm going to have to do all the work I'd rather be by myself. Love is really someone who gets what it takes to be in a relationship and the work involved, and says for you, I'm committing to do this. Communication and sometimes cooking, cleaning, taking care of kids in addition to whatever you do for a living (hobbies) is too much for most people. To those people I say, "use lotion because you can really rub yourself raw if you're not careful."
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Reply #48 posted 07/23/07 5:30pm

Slave2daGroove

ZombieKitten said:

grouphug


grouphug right back atcha!
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Reply #49 posted 07/23/07 5:43pm

shanti0608

Slave2daGroove said:

shanti0608 said:




I speak from years of experience with a major non-communicator on every level.
I held it in as long as I could and it broke me...I snapped and actually so did he.
He was unable, unwilling or whatever to change or try but you really never know until you tell the other person how you feel and how their actions hurt you.

hug


hug nobody should let their life go this route, realizing you have the power to change things is a major part for most people.

Being too damn lazy is something else completely. Relationships are a give and take and work at some points. Some people are worth it because they're the love of your life and they're willing to do the work (couldn't resist) or they fall into the other category.

To me, if I'm going to have to do all the work I'd rather be by myself. Love is really someone who gets what it takes to be in a relationship and the work involved, and says for you, I'm committing to do this. Communication and sometimes cooking, cleaning, taking care of kids in addition to whatever you do for a living (hobbies) is too much for most people. To those people I say, "use lotion because you can really rub yourself raw if you're not careful."



Well said! nod

I agree that I would rather be alone than to do all of the giving and destroy myself in the process. Though you never really know until you sit down with the person and open up and be honest about how you feel.
I did that finally and I am so glad I did- just be prepared to hear their side as well. Which can some times surprise you. Though when me and my ex did that we realised that it was destroying both of us being together. Some thing I think we both wished we had discovered sooner but we were not communicating until it was too late.
In my situation it turned out to be a blessing because we parted ways and I am so much happier now. Many ppl have opened up to one another and found the path to happiness staying together.
Love and relationships takes daily work - I think ppl forget that especially when children are involved- though I am only guessing because I do not have any. I always knew the relationship was not strong enough to support children.
so - my point is that you have to open up and let it out and see what happens.
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