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Reply #60 posted 07/24/07 3:35am

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prb said:


which one lol

I think it was deleted biggrin I can't find it any more

shame hug
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #61 posted 07/24/07 6:11am

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finished it this morning...
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Reply #62 posted 07/24/07 6:13am

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WARNING - SPOILER WITHIN:

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If what I'm reading online is true, I think Rowling wimped out a bit. She spared all the students, killing off disposible auxiliaries. Harry can buy a new owl, and who cares about Dobby and Mad-Eye Moody? She redeems Snape, who obviously had to die, and even made Draco and Harry pals at the end. And GASP... Harry is a horcrux! Who didn't guess that? Everything is so easily smoothed out, but it seems such an American thing to do. Where are the real twists or the true losses to bolster the joy?

I'm not a true Harry Potter reader, though -- merely struck by the fever at the moment -- so it's entirely possibly I'm speaking out of turn. Real fans seem to love this book so far, and they are who truly matter.

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MASSIVE SPOILERS!!

i totally disagree about dobby. dobby is a much beloved character, particularly as he represents the whole slavery issue she is covering with the elf ownership issue.

fred weasley, and for that matter ALL of the weasleys, are much loved characters too. anytime you kill off a weasley, you are going to have a major impact, as those characters are WAY WAY WAAAAAY loved. i cried just from percy coming back to fight with his family, and really cried over fred's death.

those, (dobby and fred) i think were the big two she meant she was going to kill, although it could be argued that snape would be included in the 2. i don't count him in the 2, as i think we all knew snape was going to die. while i was sad to see lupin, tonks, collin, snape, and madeye go as well, but it didn't produce an emotional reaction. i like those characters, but don't love them. the only two that produced an emotional reaction for me was dobby and fred, and i think that's going to be true for a lot of people.

i loved the bellatrix lestrange/molly weasley fight. that totally made up for fred's death.
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Reply #63 posted 07/24/07 6:39am

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i loved this book! LOVED it. potter does die, but then he comes back. touched good triumphs over evil. and then they all live happily ever after. mushy hmm welllll, except for poor tonks and fred and some others....
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Reply #64 posted 07/24/07 6:40am

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XxAxX said:

i loved this book! LOVED it. potter does die, but then he comes back. touched good triumphs over evil. and then they all live happily ever after. mushy hmm welllll, except for poor tonks and fred and some others....


i thought it was a great ending and a GREAT book. i kinda wanted it more european with harry dying, but being as they are still for kids, i understand why it wasn't that way.
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Reply #65 posted 07/24/07 6:48am

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cborgman said:

XxAxX said:

i loved this book! LOVED it. potter does die, but then he comes back. touched good triumphs over evil. and then they all live happily ever after. mushy hmm welllll, except for poor tonks and fred and some others....


i thought it was a great ending and a GREAT book. i kinda wanted it more european with harry dying, but being as they are still for kids, i understand why it wasn't that way.
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maybe she re-wrote the ending in response to public outcry. i mean, even stephen king was on her to not kill harry. so maybe she added/re-worked the ending a bit. good thing, too!
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Reply #66 posted 07/24/07 6:50am

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XxAxX said:

cborgman said:



i thought it was a great ending and a GREAT book. i kinda wanted it more european with harry dying, but being as they are still for kids, i understand why it wasn't that way.
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maybe she re-wrote the ending in response to public outcry. i mean, even stephen king was on her to not kill harry. so maybe she added/re-worked the ending a bit. good thing, too!


i totally understand why she would.
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Reply #67 posted 07/24/07 7:01am

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I'm a huge Harry Potter fan since 2000. I was one of those dorks waiting in line at midnight to buy the book and finished it in two days. I wanted to make it last, but chapter after chapter, I just had to keep going. Even when I had to stop to make dinner or something, I was walking around like a book zombie--thinking of the book, trying to figure things out, thinking about what just happened.

The book was very "dense." There was a lot of dialogue and action going on. So much was being explained, that one would have to reread things.

About the deaths: I was saying, "oh no!" when Hedwig died. I actually cried when Dobby died. I think that was the saddest death. It always got to me when he would say, "you shall not hurt Harry Potter." He adored Harry, and obviously would do anything for him.

I was shocked when Fred, Lupin and Tonks died.

We all knew Snape was going to die somehow, I just thought it would be more dramatic. At least he was able to give Harry his thoughts to read in the pensieve, so Harry could know what had been going on.

But when he saw the memories about Dumbledore's plan for him, I was getting mad. He seemed so insensitive. But when Harry talked to him after he "died" the first time or whatever, it all seemed ok.

How did he not really die there? Was it because he had all three of the deathly hallows? And was he saying that the elder wand was not the one that Voldy had, but the one Draco had which he took? I was a little lost there.

I like how at the end, he kept calling Voldermort, Tom, which would have infuriated Voldermort, I'm sure.

A lot of people on the message boards are saying they hated the epilogue, but I thought it was fine. She wrote that years ago, and of course, her writing style has changed a bit. Sure, I would have liked to know what happened to every character, but that would have been a little too much. I thought it was great that Harry named one of his kids, Albus Severus, and of course James and Lily for the others. I was confused about Ron and Hermione's kids names though. What did they mean? J.K. has always made names mean something.

Anyway, it will make an excellent movie!
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Reply #68 posted 07/24/07 10:04am

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LoL
I love how this book brings together peeps.

I really loved the last book. Besides the plotline that has Harry and Hermione hiding out in the wild I thought the rest of the book was a rollercoaster ride with the right amounts of sadness, action and moral.

My fave moment? Probably Neville's grandma showing up.

Hated, hated, hated saying goodbye to Hedwig.


I hated Hedwig going and I cried at the bit where Harry realises what he has to do. I wanted to strangle JK Rowling at these bits.

I loved how proud Neville's grandmother was too and Mrs Weasley fighting, and the story of the 3 deathly hallows. I was totally caught up in it all.

I thought it was a fantastic book and a fitting end although I hated the last chapter - I'd rather the book ended before it. I sobbed at bits and really felt like I'd been through an emotional washing machine by the end.



It was excellent... well healed from start to finish
Like you, I dont know if I needed to have the last chapter though... it was rather anti-climatic however, important for children to realize that is the reality of life ... the truth of it
(just as the lesson where Ron finally takes center stage and says, its not all it seems to be
also a great truth
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Reply #69 posted 07/24/07 11:01am

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Beyond teaching kids life goes on and that prattle... I think the last chapter also serves as the open door leaving room for her to write for a whole new generation at Hogwarts should she choose down the line.
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Reply #70 posted 07/24/07 8:06pm

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omg, I cried and cried and cried. Like, a bazillion times. Dobby. DOBBY! bawl
FRED!! bawl

Not HARRY!!! bawl


Although, we knew at that point he had all of the deathly hallows with him. So you knew...

But STILL!!!

bawl
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Reply #71 posted 07/24/07 9:17pm

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Im surprised that Dobby is getting so much love, to me he was the Jar Jar Binks of the Potter series. I was quiet happy to read that page.
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Reply #72 posted 07/24/07 9:31pm

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cborgman said:

Lammastide said:

WARNING - SPOILER WITHIN:

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If what I'm reading online is true, I think Rowling wimped out a bit. She spared all the students, killing off disposible auxiliaries. Harry can buy a new owl, and who cares about Dobby and Mad-Eye Moody? She redeems Snape, who obviously had to die, and even made Draco and Harry pals at the end. And GASP... Harry is a horcrux! Who didn't guess that? Everything is so easily smoothed out, but it seems such an American thing to do. Where are the real twists or the true losses to bolster the joy?

I'm not a true Harry Potter reader, though -- merely struck by the fever at the moment -- so it's entirely possibly I'm speaking out of turn. Real fans seem to love this book so far, and they are who truly matter.

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MASSIVE SPOILERS!!

i totally disagree about dobby. dobby is a much beloved character, particularly as he represents the whole slavery issue she is covering with the elf ownership issue.

fred weasley, and for that matter ALL of the weasleys, are much loved characters too. anytime you kill off a weasley, you are going to have a major impact, as those characters are WAY WAY WAAAAAY loved. i cried just from percy coming back to fight with his family, and really cried over fred's death.

those, (dobby and fred) i think were the big two she meant she was going to kill, although it could be argued that snape would be included in the 2. i don't count him in the 2, as i think we all knew snape was going to die. while i was sad to see lupin, tonks, collin, snape, and madeye go as well, but it didn't produce an emotional reaction. i like those characters, but don't love them. the only two that produced an emotional reaction for me was dobby and fred, and i think that's going to be true for a lot of people.

i loved the bellatrix lestrange/molly weasley fight. that totally made up for fred's death.
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[Edited 7/24/07 6:26am]

I'm surprised that people are upset about Dobby. It didn't seem like he was getting much love early on, but the more I listen, the more it does seem like folk are upset. And I didn't know until recently that Fred died. (I didn't actually read the book... I only read spoilers. redface) I think that one is pretty sad.

I expected at least one of the main three characters -- Ron, Hermione or Harry -- to die. I'm actually sort of shocked Rowling let them all live. (I don't count the brief death of Harry... that was cheating as far as I'm concerned. smile)

I'm glad fans like the latest book, though.
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Reply #73 posted 07/24/07 9:45pm

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cborgman said:

Lammastide said:

WARNING - SPOILER WITHIN:

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If what I'm reading online is true, I think Rowling wimped out a bit. She spared all the students, killing off disposible auxiliaries. Harry can buy a new owl, and who cares about Dobby and Mad-Eye Moody? She redeems Snape, who obviously had to die, and even made Draco and Harry pals at the end. And GASP... Harry is a horcrux! Who didn't guess that? Everything is so easily smoothed out, but it seems such an American thing to do. Where are the real twists or the true losses to bolster the joy?

I'm not a true Harry Potter reader, though -- merely struck by the fever at the moment -- so it's entirely possibly I'm speaking out of turn. Real fans seem to love this book so far, and they are who truly matter.

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MASSIVE SPOILERS!!

i totally disagree about dobby. dobby is a much beloved character, particularly as he represents the whole slavery issue she is covering with the elf ownership issue.


[Edited 7/24/07 6:23am]
[Edited 7/24/07 6:26am]



Well that whole storyline was pretty much just left hanging which I found odd. Hermione made such a issue bout it in the 2nd and 3rd book, but after that it was seldom mentioned anymore.
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Reply #74 posted 07/25/07 5:31am

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May have missed it, but how did Neville get the gryffindor sword at the end? Griphook took it at Grongotts?

Why am i always left with questions after reading a great book?

And it did break my concentration of a stupid mistake concerning aerth's rotation.

sigh. it still is a great ending of the tale though nod
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Reply #75 posted 07/25/07 5:39am

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sorting hat was put on his head- to "sort" him into slytherin

it was put on fire
he broke out of a body bind curse- threw off the hat and the sword flew out- gryfinndor in need
or something like that lol

i read it really quickly lol
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #76 posted 07/25/07 5:41am

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AlfofMelmak said:

May have missed it, but how did Neville get the gryffindor sword at the end? Griphook took it at Grongotts?

Why am i always left with questions after reading a great book?

And it did break my concentration of a stupid mistake concerning aerth's rotation.

sigh. it still is a great ending of the tale though nod


He got it the same way Harry got it in the Chamber of Secrets, out of the sorting hat. Any Gryffindor (ok, I don't know how to spell that lol ) worthy can call on the sword or something like that.
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Reply #77 posted 07/25/07 5:45am

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omg, I cried and cried and cried. Like, a bazillion times. Dobby. DOBBY! bawl
FRED!! bawl

Not HARRY!!! bawl


Although, we knew at that point he had all of the deathly hallows with him. So you knew...

But STILL!!!

bawl

wasnt it sad when harry buried dobby- i bawl saddest/ most touching part of the series 4 me

characters were dropping like flies throughout the whole book- i was nearly scared 2 turn the pages (nearly lol)
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #78 posted 07/25/07 5:55am

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CarrieMpls said:

AlfofMelmak said:

May have missed it, but how did Neville get the gryffindor sword at the end? Griphook took it at Grongotts?

Why am i always left with questions after reading a great book?

And it did break my concentration of a stupid mistake concerning aerth's rotation.

sigh. it still is a great ending of the tale though nod


He got it the same way Harry got it in the Chamber of Secrets, out of the sorting hat. Any Gryffindor (ok, I don't know how to spell that lol ) worthy can call on the sword or something like that.


Yeah, that's prolly it. Why then make such a fuss about griphook taking it confuse
I'll stop thinking for now lol
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AlfofMelmak said:

CarrieMpls said:



He got it the same way Harry got it in the Chamber of Secrets, out of the sorting hat. Any Gryffindor (ok, I don't know how to spell that lol ) worthy can call on the sword or something like that.


Yeah, that's prolly it. Why then make such a fuss about griphook taking it confuse
I'll stop thinking for now lol


Because they no longer had a way to destroy the horcruxes. They found one, but lost their means to destroy it.
Just more drama is all.
And they didn't have the sorting hat to try to get it back.
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omg, I cried and cried and cried. Like, a bazillion times. Dobby. DOBBY! bawl
FRED!! bawl

Not HARRY!!! bawl


Although, we knew at that point he had all of the deathly hallows with him. So you knew...

But STILL!!!

bawl


hug

me too, honey.
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Reply #81 posted 07/25/07 6:06am

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Im surprised that Dobby is getting so much love, to me he was the Jar Jar Binks of the Potter series. I was quiet happy to read that page.


i can see some common traits between the two, but imho, dobby is a LOT less annoying and isn't pandering to the younger set the way jar-jar was. also, dobby's speech patterns are far more intelligent, and he can speak in complete sentences, unlike jar-jar (whom annoyed me to no end)
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Reply #82 posted 07/25/07 6:07am

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Lammastide said:

cborgman said:



MASSIVE SPOILERS!!

i totally disagree about dobby. dobby is a much beloved character, particularly as he represents the whole slavery issue she is covering with the elf ownership issue.

fred weasley, and for that matter ALL of the weasleys, are much loved characters too. anytime you kill off a weasley, you are going to have a major impact, as those characters are WAY WAY WAAAAAY loved. i cried just from percy coming back to fight with his family, and really cried over fred's death.

those, (dobby and fred) i think were the big two she meant she was going to kill, although it could be argued that snape would be included in the 2. i don't count him in the 2, as i think we all knew snape was going to die. while i was sad to see lupin, tonks, collin, snape, and madeye go as well, but it didn't produce an emotional reaction. i like those characters, but don't love them. the only two that produced an emotional reaction for me was dobby and fred, and i think that's going to be true for a lot of people.

i loved the bellatrix lestrange/molly weasley fight. that totally made up for fred's death.
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I'm surprised that people are upset about Dobby. It didn't seem like he was getting much love early on, but the more I listen, the more it does seem like folk are upset. And I didn't know until recently that Fred died. (I didn't actually read the book... I only read spoilers. redface) I think that one is pretty sad.

I expected at least one of the main three characters -- Ron, Hermione or Harry -- to die. I'm actually sort of shocked Rowling let them all live. (I don't count the brief death of Harry... that was cheating as far as I'm concerned. smile)

I'm glad fans like the latest book, though.


yea, i expected a big 3 death, and was fairly convinced it would be harry or ron.
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Reply #83 posted 07/25/07 6:09am

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lazycrockett said:

cborgman said:



MASSIVE SPOILERS!!

i totally disagree about dobby. dobby is a much beloved character, particularly as he represents the whole slavery issue she is covering with the elf ownership issue.


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Well that whole storyline was pretty much just left hanging which I found odd. Hermione made such a issue bout it in the 2nd and 3rd book, but after that it was seldom mentioned anymore.


she mentioned it a bunch with kreacher (the black family houseelf) and dobby in this book. there was that whole bit about seeing kreacher, who was such a HUGE pain in the ass till now suddenly become not only pleasant and helpful, but also crucial to the plot once hermione got harry to treat him like a being instead of an object in this one.
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Reply #84 posted 07/25/07 6:18am

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Yeah, that's prolly it. Why then make such a fuss about griphook taking it confuse
I'll stop thinking for now lol


Because they no longer had a way to destroy the horcruxes. They found one, but lost their means to destroy it.
Just more drama is all.
And they didn't have the sorting hat to try to get it back.


That's what's been bugging me! I find the timing odd of JKR of putting in the last book how horcruxes supposed to be destroyed. Only after the loss of the sword, and even not until they're in Hogwarts they end up with Basilisk fangs and Hermione remembering fiendfyre. I would have exprected that to be discussed during their camping where they also discussed were the Horcruxes might be.
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AlfofMelmak said:

CarrieMpls said:



Because they no longer had a way to destroy the horcruxes. They found one, but lost their means to destroy it.
Just more drama is all.
And they didn't have the sorting hat to try to get it back.


That's what's been bugging me! I find the timing odd of JKR of putting in the last book how horcruxes supposed to be destroyed. Only after the loss of the sword, and even not until they're in Hogwarts they end up with Basilisk fangs and Hermione remembering fiendfyre. I would have exprected that to be discussed during their camping where they also discussed were the Horcruxes might be.


I agree the fiendfyre was a cheap shot. I liked them going for the basilisk fangs, though.
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i betcha there will be more harry potter books nod shhh

don't tell j.k. rowling right now though, she'll be wanting a break.

but, imo, no WAY the world will let her retire harry biggrin
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Reply #87 posted 07/25/07 8:37am

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no WAY the world will let her retire harry biggrin


I am off this world then. I always knew...
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XxAxX said:

i betcha there will be more harry potter books nod shhh

don't tell j.k. rowling right now though, she'll be wanting a break.

but, imo, no WAY the world will let her retire harry biggrin


i have a feeling she will eventually start a second series, but i am betting that if she does, it will be with new characters, most of whom won't be directly connected to harry.

same world, different stories.
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Reply #89 posted 07/26/07 1:19am

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XxAxX said:

i betcha there will be more harry potter books nod shhh

don't tell j.k. rowling right now though, she'll be wanting a break.

but, imo, no WAY the world will let her retire harry biggrin


i have a feeling she will eventually start a second series, but i am betting that if she does, it will be with new characters, most of whom won't be directly connected to harry.

same world, different stories.

nod i agree

i dont care who she writes about- as long as it involves hogwarts/magic

it could even be a prequel- life b4 harry was born
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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