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Vargas denies steroid use
Sep 27, 6:35 PM (ET) Email this Story

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Two-time junior middleweight champion Fernando Vargas is disputing claims by the Nevada Athletic Commission on Friday that he used steroids before his loss to Oscar De La Hoya two weeks ago.
Marc Ratner, the athletic commission's executive director, said that Vargas' post-fight urinalysis came back positive for stanozolol. It's the same drug that cost sprinter Ben Johnson his gold medal and world record in the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics.

Vargas, who was stopped by De La Hoya in the 11th round, said he was upset with the test results and wrote a two-page letter to Ratner defending himself.

"I did not knowingly take any prohibited substance, much less a steroid," Vargas wrote.

Vargas said he had taken nutritional supplements before the bout.


"I took what I was given and did not think to question, because I relied upon and trusted those around me," he said. "I know that steroids were banned and that there would be testing. The others responsible in my camp knew the same. I am upset beyond words that a positive test has been received."

Vargas asked that a second sample be tested to eliminate any chance of laboratory error.

"This is a very sad situation for me," Vargas wrote. 'I trained hard and the bout was a big one for me. While I lost, I thought I lost with honor. Now someone's stupidity threatens to take even that away from me."

After the commission files a formal complaint next week, Vargas will have 30 days to formally respond. A hearing will be scheduled to determine a punishment. Ratner would not speculate on what type of punishment Vargas could receive.

"We'll all look him in the eye and say, 'Why? What happened?"' commission chairman Luther Mack said.

Mack was upset about Vargas' results, especially since the commission warned boxing promoters on July 1 that fighters would be tested for steroids.

"It was a big fight. It was a great matchup pound for pound, a good fight for Nevada, good fight for the fans, and all of a sudden when the fight's over, we have this happen to us," Mack said. "That really bothers me."

Yeah, man... I read about this on www.maxboxing.com!

Vargas used steroids to be stronger and STILL took and asshwipping from a NON-STEROID using De La Hoya!

WoooHooo!

Here is an excerpt from an article by Steve Kim on MaxBoxing.com:

"It was bad enough that Fernando Vargas lost the most important fight of his life, it got even worse when it was found out on late Wednesday night that Vargas had tested positive for a steroid in his post-fight urinalysis."

Maaan, that's gotta suck for Vargas.

If this is true.His career is OVER.He will lose all credability in the boxing world(if there is such a thing in boxing).
[This message was edited Fri Sep 27 18:27:53 PDT 2002 by 4LOVE]

4LOVE said:

I know what you are saying... the guy goes out, uses steroids to become unnaturally strong and still gets knocked out by a guy who has come up 5 weight divisions. That does NOT look good on your resume' at all.

I really hope that he didn't use steroids, but if I had to guess, I would say that he did. He had so much anger at De La Hoya and he really wanted to be able to beat him... it is just too bad that he doesn't have the boxing ability to best De La Hoya.

And like the punk he is he is trying to blame it on someone else in his camp.He can't step up to the plate and accept what he did.I find it hard to believe he didn't know.

4LOVE said:

If he did it, you would expect that he knew... I would think that he would have noticed the needles being shoved into his flesh...



His long-time fitness trainer quit right after the fight too... they had brought in some new guy and the old guy was cut out of the loop.

the way He Got His Ass Kicked He should find the Chump that put the Needle in Him&Beat His Ass for that Whipping De La Hoya put on Him.

4LOVE said:

Look at it this way:

Boxing has even more credibility than major league baseball. They don't have a urinalysis for baseball players.

Supernova said:

Baseball is about the most fucked up sport going... fuck those overpaid crybabies...

IceNine said:

Exactamundo!

Ok,
break it up...
move along, nothing to see here...
was it not enough that he lost the fight to that
non singing asswipe ring-generalshippin osscar.
witout bringing up his drug habit???
i'm sayin
I WAS WRONG!!!
i fell asleep on that fight, knowing whut the outcome was going to be...
WHUTZ NEXT ON THE MINU???

how come they didn't lnow this before the fight???

00769BAD said:

They don't know before the fight because they would have to test IMMEDIATELY before the fight... they wait until after the fight because they will still get the reading and they will deal with it then...

And... you shouldn't choose a fighter that I don't choose!

Barrera vs. Tapia = Barrera

IceNine said:

I'm taking tapia on this one.I think he has one good one left in him.Barrera is good but i think tapia pulls a little "ring magic" in this one.

4LOVE said:

I love Johnny Tapia and I wouldn't mind seeing him win it. Tapia has more heart than anyone in the world and he is a very good fighter, so he can definitely do it.

If the Barrera that fought Morales in the second fight shows up, I think that you are right... Tapia will beat that Barrera. If the Barrera that fought Hamed shows up and boxes him to death, Tapia will lose...

If the Barrera that fought Morales the first time shows up it will be a WAR and it is a toss-up, but it will be a GREAT fight!

At any rate, it should be a good fight and I really like both fighters, so I don't mind if either wins... but I pick Barrera based on his strong showing against Naseem Hamed and his body work.