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Thread started 07/14/07 7:28am

SynthiaRose

Police investigating report of Pit Bull sodomizing toddler. WTF?

http://www.tonawanda-news...22001.html

I swear this is a real story. It's been on the radio and everything:

Published: July 13, 2007 12:20 pm

LOCKPORT: Behavioral experts think scent may have triggered pit bull attack
By April Amadon/amadona@gnnewspaper.com
The Tonawanda News

Many unanswered questions remain in the wake of Sunday’s bizarre pit bull attack on a Washburn Street boy.

Police say a 2-year-old boy was alone with the family’s pit bull for only minutes when he was attacked and sodomized by the dog, a family pet that had never before shown any signs of aggression.

Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert said the toddler had removed his own soiled diaper and asked to be changed just before the attack. His mother sent him into the living room to get a new diaper, Eggert said.

The boy was alone with the dog for only a brief time, Eggert said.

When the mother heard the boy scream, she walked into the living room and found the dog had mounted the child, Eggert said. The mother reportedly began yelling at the dog, which spooked it, causing it to run out the door and onto the porch, still attached to the boy.

Neighbors saw what was happening and helped the mother beat the dog to get it off the boy, Eggert said.

The pit bull, a 2-year-old named Bear, was impounded this week at the Niagara County SPCA and was said to be going to the Erie County shelter.

Niagara County SPCA Executive Director Al Chille said he’s fielded dozens of calls about the dog, many from out-of-state, and the overwhelming sentiment has been in favor of the dog.

“It’s been, ‘Save the dog, investigate the family,’ ” Chille said.

Eggert said the family has been “very open, very cooperative” with police.

Investigators have conducted several interviews and are working in conjunction with the Niagara County District Attorney’s office to determine if charges will eventually be pressed, but nothing has been determined yet.

The boy continues to recover at Women’s and Children’s Hospital in Buffalo, where he underwent surgery earlier in the week. Eggert said he’s heard the boy is doing better.

The dog, which had been with the family since it was a puppy, was up-to-date on all its shots, including rabies, Eggert said.

Now, investigators are looking at the question on everyone’s mind: What would motivate a family dog with no history of aggression to do something like this?

Behavioral specialists will be brought in to study the dog and try to figure out what triggered the attack.

“Because of the shocking nature of the case, you just want to make sure there’s nothing left unturned,” Eggert said.

Motivation

Holly Hackmer, a veterinary technician at Brighton-Eggert Animal Clinic in Tonawanda, said she believes the dog may have smelled something in the air that triggered the attack.

“Maybe this dog smelled a female going into heat in the area,” she said. “We see dogs jump through windows, go through doors. They become overly aggressive. It’s the testosterone running through their system.”

Madeline Friedman, owner of Innovative Reality Dog Training and Behavior Consulting in New York City, said the dog could have even smelled something on the child.

Friedman — who prefers to call the incident an “anomaly” instead of a “sexual attack” — said dogs have over 250 million scent detectors in their noses, while humans have only 5 million. Several things could have contributed to the smells in the air that day, including the early-afternoon humidity and the fact that the boy had just removed a dirty diaper.

“Human bodies are always giving off scents,” she said. “For all we know, (the child) may have had some kind of urinary tract infection, which would cause the smell of the child to be really kind of motivating to the dog to explore the scent.”

Friedman said it’s difficult to pin down the dog’s motivation, but it was likely not malicious.

“It appears to be more a misunderstanding of dogs’ senses,” she said. “It is highly unlikely that the dog was motivated by sex-seeking from this child in any way whatsoever.”

The behavior could have even been unconsciously encouraged by the child’s family.

“Maybe the dog sniffed the diaper before, and maybe the parents thought it was funny,” she said.

Bad for the breed

The incident has sparked furious debate about pit bulls, a breed notorious for aggressive behavior.

A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released in 2000 named pit bulls and rottweilers as the two breeds most often involved in bite-related fatalities.

Sunday’s incident was one of two that day in the city involving pit bulls; a pit bull attacked a Labrador in a Willow Street backyard that same afternoon. In that case, the lab’s owner reportedly had to beat the pit bull will a hockey stick to get it to break the hold it had on his dog’s neck.

On May 24, the Niagara County Drug Task Force was executing a search warrant on a North Transit Street home when the homeowner’s pit bull reportedly lunged at a task force member, prompting the member to shoot the pit bull in his own defense.

In February, a Fox Hunt Drive woman told sheriff’s deputies a neighbor’s pit bull ran out of its hard and bit her dog on the neck.

Though several groups have called for a ban on pit bulls, New York State law prohibits breed-specific legislation.

Chille said people have a natural fear of the breed as it has gained notoriety in recent years. In the last three decades, other dog breeds such as spaniels, rottweilers and German shepherds have received the same attention, he said.

Chille has said the family of the young boy attacked on Sunday wants the dog to be euthanized, but that has not been decided yet.

Friedman said it would be “a shame” if the dog were euthanized.

“It sounds to me like the dog had very little training. If the family doesn’t want to keep the dog, I think the dog could be successfully re-homed,” she said. “It is not my belief this dog is a danger.”

In the meantime, the dog will remain at the SPCA until its fate is decided.

“Unfortunately this happened to be a pit bull,” Friedman said. “I’m wondering, if this had been a goofy yellow Lab, if the outcry would have been the same.”

Contact reporter April Amadon at 439-9222, ext. 6251.


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Reply #1 posted 07/14/07 7:29am

Imago

Sorry for pitbull owners, and advocates that purport "Nurture over Nature", but I hate this breed of dogs. I don't understand why it's still legal.
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Reply #2 posted 07/14/07 7:31am

jess555ja

omg omg omg
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Reply #3 posted 07/14/07 7:32am

mrdespues

Leaving a pitbull with a toddler for even a few moments is insane.

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Reply #4 posted 07/14/07 7:35am

Imago

mrdespues said:

Leaving a pitbull with a toddler for even a few moments is insane.

neutral

I hate that breed.


My buddy, Dan (yes, I have friends named Dan lol), is currently being sued by a girl who dated his roomate because while Dan was up visiting his folks in Washington, the pit bull bit her face after it perceived her to be a threat. All she was doing was going to the front door to leave.


I hate that breed.
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Reply #5 posted 07/14/07 7:38am

Anxiety

i'd love to ask the tonawanda news why the hell they thought we needed to know that. confused
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Reply #6 posted 07/14/07 7:41am

mrdespues

Imago said:

mrdespues said:

Leaving a pitbull with a toddler for even a few moments is insane.

neutral

I hate that breed.


My buddy, Dan (yes, I have friends named Dan lol), is currently being sued by a girl who dated his roomate because while Dan was up visiting his folks in Washington, the pit bull bit her face after it perceived her to be a threat. All she was doing was going to the front door to leave.


I hate that breed.


Me too.


I don't get the appeal of dogs like that.

shrug


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Reply #7 posted 07/14/07 7:44am

Imago

mrdespues said:

Imago said:


I hate that breed.


My buddy, Dan (yes, I have friends named Dan lol), is currently being sued by a girl who dated his roomate because while Dan was up visiting his folks in Washington, the pit bull bit her face after it perceived her to be a threat. All she was doing was going to the front door to leave.


I hate that breed.


Me too.


I don't get the appeal of dogs like that.

shrug


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There are certain working breed dogs that I love that are larger in size.
I like their personalities better than lap dogs,etc.

But pit bulls are not one of them. I totally don't understand the appeal.
I'll shut up now cause the "nurture vs. nature" lovers will be all over my ass when they log in. lol
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Reply #8 posted 07/14/07 7:52am

mrdespues

Imago said:

mrdespues said:



Me too.


I don't get the appeal of dogs like that.

shrug


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There are certain working breed dogs that I love that are larger in size.
I like their personalities better than lap dogs,etc.

But pit bulls are not one of them. I totally don't understand the appeal.
I'll shut up now cause the "nurture vs. nature" lovers will be all over my ass when they log in. lol


Yeah, I hear ya, hence the edit in my previous post...

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Reply #9 posted 07/14/07 8:55am

CalhounSq

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OMG, I literally feel ill disbelief & I agree, I would never have a infant/toddler/child alone in a room w/ a dog b/c anything can happen. But especially a damn pit. OMG...
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Reply #10 posted 07/14/07 9:14am

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Anxiety said:

i'd love to ask the tonawanda news why the hell they thought we needed to know that. confused


I'm from that area and NOTHING goes on there. So pretty much anything moderately news-worth gets pounded into the dirt. confused

That said, yeah, I don't understand why a child that young was left alone with a pit bull. Defnitely an oversight on the part of the mother.
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Reply #11 posted 07/14/07 9:24am

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The toddler probably asked for it.

wink
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #12 posted 07/14/07 9:44am

Ottensen

lazycrockett said:

The toddler probably asked for it.

wink



Shut THE FUCK up. confused
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Reply #13 posted 07/14/07 9:49am

lazycrockett

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Ottensen said:

lazycrockett said:

The toddler probably asked for it.

wink



Shut THE FUCK up. confused


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Reply #14 posted 07/14/07 11:29am

guitarslinger4
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lazycrockett said:

The toddler probably asked for it.

wink


falloff Damn toddlers always wearing revealing clothing!
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Reply #15 posted 07/14/07 11:43am

Spookymuffin

guitarslinger44 said:

lazycrockett said:

The toddler probably asked for it.

wink


falloff Damn toddlers always wearing revealing clothing!


spit
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Reply #16 posted 07/14/07 11:43am

Mach

mrdespues said:

Leaving a pitbull with a toddler for even a few moments is insane.

neutral


a friend

raised a beautiful pit

also had a beautiful son ...pup and dog grew up together

dog was 4 boy was 5 - playing as normal ... my firend left the room to make popcorn and in a fraction of a second the dog killed his son


rose


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Reply #17 posted 07/14/07 11:59am

Spookymuffin

Mach said:

mrdespues said:

Leaving a pitbull with a toddler for even a few moments is insane.

neutral


a friend

raised a beautiful pit

also had a beautiful son ...pup and dog grew up together

dog was 4 boy was 5 - playing as normal ... my firend left the room to make popcorn and in a fraction of a second the dog killed his son


rose

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Reply #18 posted 07/14/07 12:44pm

unlucky7

I bet a million dollars the people above who made those jokes are MEN MEN MEN!

wink

anyway, very sad, like they say never leave a child alone with an animal like that.
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Reply #19 posted 07/14/07 1:01pm

JasmineFire

you should never leave a toddler alone with a dog or a cat for that matter.

Toddlers do annoying things to animals, so it really doesn't surprise me when the animal then lashes out and hurts the kid.

The kid's just being a kid and the animal is just being an animal. shrug

I hope the child recovers and I hope the dog finds a new home.
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Reply #20 posted 07/14/07 2:00pm

lazycrockett

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I made the joke cause I highly doubt this story is real. This reeks of Urban Legend type material. The story is just SO well set up.
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Reply #21 posted 07/14/07 2:21pm

sexxydancer

guitarslinger44 said:

lazycrockett said:

The toddler probably asked for it.

wink


falloff Damn toddlers always wearing revealing clothing!

lol
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Reply #22 posted 07/14/07 3:43pm

Biah

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guitarslinger44 said:



falloff Damn toddlers always wearing revealing clothing!


Say no to assless pants lol
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Reply #23 posted 07/14/07 5:23pm

KatSkrizzle

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Imago said:

Sorry for pitbull owners, and advocates that purport "Nurture over Nature", but I hate this breed of dogs. I don't understand why it's still legal.


Obviously the handler taught it do this.

I'm really tired of pits put all over with this rep. It's the dumb ass handlers that hink it's cool to teach it to be aggressive.

They are an "arrogant" breed and it takes a handler that know EXACTLY what it's doing. It also drives me insane when people leave those dogs just wandering...not taking care of them...of course they're gonna bug out.

I swear it takes a pit license to own those dogs...it's going to come to that. These people need to be prosecuted fully. That boys dad was probably having some crackhead do porn with the dog and selling the videos. That is so sick!!
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Reply #24 posted 07/14/07 5:31pm

KatSkrizzle

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Mach said:

mrdespues said:

Leaving a pitbull with a toddler for even a few moments is insane.

neutral


a friend

raised a beautiful pit

also had a beautiful son ...pup and dog grew up together

dog was 4 boy was 5 - playing as normal ... my firend left the room to make popcorn and in a fraction of a second the dog killed his son


rose


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Was it pure bred or a mix with Pit? Mixed breed with pit is dangerous.

Most cases, it's a hood dog that is pit with something else that bugs out.

Actually I would recomend them to be illegal because the hanlders are stupid. They get a mixed breed pit and then mistreat it and teach it aggression.

Dude...you all are right. They should either be illegal or a license required for handlers. You CANNOT spoil them at all....you have to run them and keep them in shape. Otherwise they get nervous and get arrogant because you spoil them. The arrogance turns into aggression.

It takes a lot to be a handler, which is why I am not one.
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Reply #25 posted 07/14/07 5:35pm

HobbesLeCute

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What a strange world.
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Reply #26 posted 07/14/07 5:46pm

KatSkrizzle

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one more thong... if think pits are dangerous...




Try crossing an Akita
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Reply #27 posted 07/14/07 7:47pm

xplnyrslf

lazycrockett said:

I made the joke cause I highly doubt this story is real. This reeks of Urban Legend type material. The story is just SO well set up.


I completely agree. Anatomically, doesn't make sense.
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Reply #28 posted 07/15/07 5:43am

eraclito

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KatSkrizzle said:

Mach said:



a friend

raised a beautiful pit

also had a beautiful son ...pup and dog grew up together

dog was 4 boy was 5 - playing as normal ... my firend left the room to make popcorn and in a fraction of a second the dog killed his son


rose


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Was it pure bred or a mix with Pit? Mixed breed with pit is dangerous.

Most cases, it's a hood dog that is pit with something else that bugs out.

Actually I would recomend them to be illegal because the hanlders are stupid. They get a mixed breed pit and then mistreat it and teach it aggression.

Dude...you all are right. They should either be illegal or a license required for handlers. You CANNOT spoil them at all....you have to run them and keep them in shape. Otherwise they get nervous and get arrogant because you spoil them. The arrogance turns into aggression.

It takes a lot to be a handler, which is why I am not one.



i agree with you totally, poorly bred dogs and poorly trained dogs of any breed make a bad combination. it has nothing to do with the breed of dog..

my dog has documention going back generations, i have a dog registration license issued by the police, the dog is given regular exercise, mental stimulation and is socialised to be around other animals and people.

i abide by the legal requirements as set out in the license, the dog is muzzled and kept on a leash in all public areas, i have public liability insurance and the dog is chipped and tattooed.

no animal should be left alone with a child, its common sense. it is never the animal, its always the owner.

ohh and Hector says fuck y'all to all the haters .. lol

are you ready for submission

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Reply #29 posted 07/15/07 7:50am

mrdespues

.nevermind.
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