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Reply #30 posted 07/15/07 7:58am

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mrdespues said:

.nevermind.
[Edited 7/15/07 7:57am]


you my friend dont know what u are talking about.. and why the edit?
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Reply #31 posted 07/15/07 8:00am

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eraclito said:

mrdespues said:

.nevermind.
[Edited 7/15/07 7:57am]


you my friend dont know what u are talking about.. and why the edit?

lol
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Reply #32 posted 07/15/07 8:30am

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eraclito said:

mrdespues said:

.nevermind.
[Edited 7/15/07 7:57am]


you my friend dont know what u are talking about.. and why the edit?



what makes you so sure? i edited because i partially agreed with the poster i was responding to.

talk to the hand


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Reply #33 posted 07/15/07 8:51am

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Imago said:

Sorry for pitbull owners, and advocates that purport "Nurture over Nature", but I hate this breed of dogs. I don't understand why it's still legal.


Obviously the handler taught it do this.

I'm really tired of pits put all over with this rep. It's the dumb ass handlers that hink it's cool to teach it to be aggressive.

They are an "arrogant" breed and it takes a handler that know EXACTLY what it's doing. It also drives me insane when people leave those dogs just wandering...not taking care of them...of course they're gonna bug out.

I swear it takes a pit license to own those dogs...it's going to come to that. These people need to be prosecuted fully. That boys dad was probably having some crackhead do porn with the dog and selling the videos. That is so sick!!



My friends Dog was not raised to be aggressive, and was a sweet dog. A sweet dog that took a chunk of flesh out of a ladies face.

Here's a list of behaviors that dogs may preceive as threatening (Basically, the article is showing that human behavior is provocation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack )

The issue is that pits and rotwielers make up 67 percent of the fatal attacks in the US. I say, why bother requiring a license at all? They should just ban to breeds.

If 67 percent of driving deaths came from any given element, that surely would be illegal by now.
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Reply #34 posted 07/15/07 9:52am

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mrdespues said:

eraclito said:



you my friend dont know what u are talking about.. and why the edit?



what makes you so sure? i edited because i partially agreed with the poster i was responding to.

talk to the hand


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i am sure because you started talking some shit about pitbulls being hardwired to attack..

have you ever even had a dog. because the only thing that differentiates a pit bull from other dogs is not its strength
or its intelligence, because there are stronger and more intelligent dogs, it is not its aggression, because there are far more aggressive dogs.

it is its tenacity which makes it slightly different. the fact that it is unwilling to give up.

otherwise it is a straight up dog like all other dogs, albeit one with a lot of strength for its size. but a dog nonetheless...
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Reply #35 posted 07/15/07 9:57am

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Imago said:

KatSkrizzle said:



Obviously the handler taught it do this.

I'm really tired of pits put all over with this rep. It's the dumb ass handlers that hink it's cool to teach it to be aggressive.

They are an "arrogant" breed and it takes a handler that know EXACTLY what it's doing. It also drives me insane when people leave those dogs just wandering...not taking care of them...of course they're gonna bug out.

I swear it takes a pit license to own those dogs...it's going to come to that. These people need to be prosecuted fully. That boys dad was probably having some crackhead do porn with the dog and selling the videos. That is so sick!!



My friends Dog was not raised to be aggressive, and was a sweet dog. A sweet dog that took a chunk of flesh out of a ladies face.

Here's a list of behaviors that dogs may preceive as threatening (Basically, the article is showing that human behavior is provocation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack )

The issue is that pits and rotwielers make up 67 percent of the fatal attacks in the US. I say, why bother requiring a license at all? They should just ban to breeds.

If 67 percent of driving deaths came from any given element, that surely would be illegal by now.


i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..
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Reply #36 posted 07/15/07 9:59am

Imago

eraclito said:

Imago said:




My friends Dog was not raised to be aggressive, and was a sweet dog. A sweet dog that took a chunk of flesh out of a ladies face.

Here's a list of behaviors that dogs may preceive as threatening (Basically, the article is showing that human behavior is provocation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack )

The issue is that pits and rotwielers make up 67 percent of the fatal attacks in the US. I say, why bother requiring a license at all? They should just ban to breeds.

If 67 percent of driving deaths came from any given element, that surely would be illegal by now.


i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..



I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!
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Reply #37 posted 07/15/07 10:00am

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Imago said:

eraclito said:



i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..



I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!



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Reply #38 posted 07/15/07 10:02am

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Imago said:

eraclito said:



i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..



I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!


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Reply #39 posted 07/15/07 10:03am

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Imago said:

eraclito said:



i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..



I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!


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Reply #40 posted 07/15/07 10:04am

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Imago said:

eraclito said:



i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..



I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!



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Reply #41 posted 07/15/07 10:05am

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Imago said:

eraclito said:



i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..



I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!

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Reply #42 posted 07/15/07 10:14am

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mdiver said:

Imago said:




I'm banning you and Hector from orgnotes and never speaking to you again, because we have a difference in opinion and my opinion is dogma!!



OMG something just hit me.....









































cartman "You will respect my authoriti"


that makes total sense, Cartman will probably end up living in his folks basement too..
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Reply #43 posted 07/15/07 10:16am

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eraclito said:

Imago said:




My friends Dog was not raised to be aggressive, and was a sweet dog. A sweet dog that took a chunk of flesh out of a ladies face.

Here's a list of behaviors that dogs may preceive as threatening (Basically, the article is showing that human behavior is provocation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack )

The issue is that pits and rotwielers make up 67 percent of the fatal attacks in the US. I say, why bother requiring a license at all? They should just ban to breeds.

If 67 percent of driving deaths came from any given element, that surely would be illegal by now.


i hear you, but again the dog should have never been in a situation where it was in public and was unmuzzled. so again its down to owner error, i dont care what dog it is, if its teeth are bigger than mine, i want that shit kept away from me.

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.

and seriously statistics are a load of bollocks, we both know this. the same figures can tell two different stories..

at the end of the day, its all about being a responsible owner, the animal has been bred and trained by us and will do what it has been taught.

you may have believed it was a sweet loving dog, but it may also have suffered a nervous condition or was a spoilt bastid. which is what would make it dangerous, it all comes down to poor breeding and poor training..


Can you post that link?
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Reply #44 posted 07/15/07 10:42am

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in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.


It's the same all over the world, but those breeds aren't newsworthy. Simple as that. Here, golden retrievers top the list of most bites on humans every year cos people are fucking stupid thinking that breed will put up with everything a human subjects it to. Then there's the jack russell terrier, and they're NEVER spoken of in the same breath as an APBT because they're so small and by people's fucked up reasoning then can't do no harm. rolleyes Also, they never consider what the russell was bred for - going down into holes and bringing up badgers (who are fierce mofos) and/or chasing and KILLING rats. Yeah, so small... disbelief

Also... am I the only one reacting to the sodomizing being labeled "aggressive"?? If a dog humps your leg, is it aggressive then? Most likely the dog was dominating the child (mounting being a dominating gesture) and got carried away. Still wrong, but like Eraclito said - always the owner, never the dog.
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Reply #45 posted 07/15/07 10:45am

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Teacher said:

eraclito said:

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.


It's the same all over the world, but those breeds aren't newsworthy. Simple as that. Here, golden retrievers top the list of most bites on humans every year cos people are fucking stupid thinking that breed will put up with everything a human subjects it to. Then there's the jack russell terrier, and they're NEVER spoken of in the same breath as an APBT because they're so small and by people's fucked up reasoning then can't do no harm. rolleyes Also, they never consider what the russell was bred for - going down into holes and bringing up badgers (who are fierce mofos) and/or chasing and KILLING rats. Yeah, so small... disbelief

Also... am I the only one reacting to the sodomizing being labeled "aggressive"?? If a dog humps your leg, is it aggressive then? Most likely the dog was dominating the child (mounting being a dominating gesture) and got carried away. Still wrong, but like Eraclito said - always the owner, never the dog.


I was totally keeping away from the thread, but if ANY dog humped my kid in that way, it would be immediately PUT DOWN. No matter. I would say my dogs were trained well and looked after and NOT left out of sight with kids or toddlers, but if that unfortunate terrible rare act occured, I would have pleasure shooting the dog myself.

Nuff said.

The child is the innocent one NOT the dog.
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Reply #46 posted 07/15/07 10:52am

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REDFEATHERS said:

Teacher said:



It's the same all over the world, but those breeds aren't newsworthy. Simple as that. Here, golden retrievers top the list of most bites on humans every year cos people are fucking stupid thinking that breed will put up with everything a human subjects it to. Then there's the jack russell terrier, and they're NEVER spoken of in the same breath as an APBT because they're so small and by people's fucked up reasoning then can't do no harm. rolleyes Also, they never consider what the russell was bred for - going down into holes and bringing up badgers (who are fierce mofos) and/or chasing and KILLING rats. Yeah, so small... disbelief

Also... am I the only one reacting to the sodomizing being labeled "aggressive"?? If a dog humps your leg, is it aggressive then? Most likely the dog was dominating the child (mounting being a dominating gesture) and got carried away. Still wrong, but like Eraclito said - always the owner, never the dog.


I was totally keeping away from the thread, but if ANY dog humped my kid in that way, it would be immediately PUT DOWN. No matter. I would say my dogs were trained well and looked after and NOT left out of sight with kids or toddlers, but if that unfortunate terrible rare act occured, I would have pleasure shooting the dog myself.

Nuff said.

The child is the innocent one NOT the dog.


Exactly.

It would be cruelty to the boy to have him live in the house with that dog, or any dog like that now. Like asking a rape victim to live in a house with her rapist just cause they were mentally handicapped and didn't know any better.




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Reply #47 posted 07/15/07 10:59am

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Imago said:

REDFEATHERS said:



I was totally keeping away from the thread, but if ANY dog humped my kid in that way, it would be immediately PUT DOWN. No matter. I would say my dogs were trained well and looked after and NOT left out of sight with kids or toddlers, but if that unfortunate terrible rare act occured, I would have pleasure shooting the dog myself.

Nuff said.

The child is the innocent one NOT the dog.


Exactly.

It would be cruelty to the boy to have him live in the house with that dog, or any dog like that now. Like asking a rape victim to live in a house with her rapist just cause they were mentally handicapped and didn't know any better.




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Run outta replies:

But that poor child, how is he gonna live?

I hope his parents are so caring and giving that it is never mentioned EVER to him and he can have hope of a normal happy life. If however they coin in on the incident, well it is gonna affect him for life.
Hopefully he is young enough to not remember this terrible incident, and I WOULD seriously question the parents lifestyle, yes, it cvould be an unfortunate accident, but that cannot be overlooked, and anyway put the dog to sleep IMO.
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Reply #48 posted 07/15/07 11:35am

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Teacher said:

eraclito said:

in the UK there are far more incidents of attacks from German Sheperds and Labradors than Pitbulls or Rottweilers.


It's the same all over the world, but those breeds aren't newsworthy. Simple as that. Here, golden retrievers top the list of most bites on humans every year cos people are fucking stupid thinking that breed will put up with everything a human subjects it to. Then there's the jack russell terrier, and they're NEVER spoken of in the same breath as an APBT because they're so small and by people's fucked up reasoning then can't do no harm. rolleyes Also, they never consider what the russell was bred for - going down into holes and bringing up badgers (who are fierce mofos) and/or chasing and KILLING rats. Yeah, so small... disbelief

Also... am I the only one reacting to the sodomizing being labeled "aggressive"?? If a dog humps your leg, is it aggressive then? Most likely the dog was dominating the child (mounting being a dominating gesture) and got carried away. Still wrong, but like Eraclito said - always the owner, never the dog.


you are totally right Jen..

personally i dont believe the story, it is very unlikely that the dog actually sodomized the child, its all media hype in my opinion...

its much more likely that the dog got randy like you stated, and why should the dog be paid with its life for a natural urge.

any parent dumb enough to leave their child alone with any animal deserves to be punished in my opinion
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Reply #49 posted 07/15/07 11:36am

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REDFEATHERS said:

Teacher said:



It's the same all over the world, but those breeds aren't newsworthy. Simple as that. Here, golden retrievers top the list of most bites on humans every year cos people are fucking stupid thinking that breed will put up with everything a human subjects it to. Then there's the jack russell terrier, and they're NEVER spoken of in the same breath as an APBT because they're so small and by people's fucked up reasoning then can't do no harm. rolleyes Also, they never consider what the russell was bred for - going down into holes and bringing up badgers (who are fierce mofos) and/or chasing and KILLING rats. Yeah, so small... disbelief

Also... am I the only one reacting to the sodomizing being labeled "aggressive"?? If a dog humps your leg, is it aggressive then? Most likely the dog was dominating the child (mounting being a dominating gesture) and got carried away. Still wrong, but like Eraclito said - always the owner, never the dog.


I was totally keeping away from the thread, but if ANY dog humped my kid in that way, it would be immediately PUT DOWN. No matter. I would say my dogs were trained well and looked after and NOT left out of sight with kids or toddlers, but if that unfortunate terrible rare act occured, I would have pleasure shooting the dog myself.

Nuff said.

The child is the innocent one NOT the dog.


actually both the child and animal is innocent, it is the parents who are the guilty ones...

it is that simple really...
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Reply #50 posted 07/15/07 11:39am

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eraclito said:

REDFEATHERS said:



I was totally keeping away from the thread, but if ANY dog humped my kid in that way, it would be immediately PUT DOWN. No matter. I would say my dogs were trained well and looked after and NOT left out of sight with kids or toddlers, but if that unfortunate terrible rare act occured, I would have pleasure shooting the dog myself.

Nuff said.

The child is the innocent one NOT the dog.


actually both the child and animal is innocent, it is the parents who are the guilty ones...

it is that simple really...

THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.
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Reply #51 posted 07/15/07 11:43am

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JasmineFire said:

eraclito said:



actually both the child and animal is innocent, it is the parents who are the guilty ones...

it is that simple really...

THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.



BUT if it was YOUR child, abnd you saw the dogf humping your BABY, you wouldn't feel angry/sickened? Come on!! I have seen sickening incidents, and no matter, you go with your gut instinct and NOt by what is PC and ever so animal friendly.
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Reply #52 posted 07/15/07 11:45am

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JasmineFire said:

eraclito said:



actually both the child and animal is innocent, it is the parents who are the guilty ones...

it is that simple really...

THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.


wow..you would put the dogs welfare over the child remaining with its natural parents.
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Reply #53 posted 07/15/07 11:47am

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mdiver said:

JasmineFire said:


THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.


wow..you would put the dogs welfare over the child remaining with its natural parents.



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Reply #54 posted 07/15/07 11:48am

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REDBABY said:

JasmineFire said:


THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.



BUT if it was YOUR child, abnd you saw the dogf humping your BABY, you wouldn't feel angry/sickened? Come on!! I have seen sickening incidents, and no matter, you go with your gut instinct and NOt by what is PC and ever so animal friendly.

not really, animals hump children, furniture, and legs all the time. my gut instinct is that these parents aren't being entirely truthful about the entire incident and that both the dog and the child would be better off elsewhere.

I highly doubt that this dog, or any dog, could possibly pentrate a child's anus unless it was forced by a human with a tube of lubricant. Now if THAT happened I'd be sickened.
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Reply #55 posted 07/15/07 11:49am

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REDBABY said:

JasmineFire said:


THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.



BUT if it was YOUR child, abnd you saw the dogf humping your BABY, you wouldn't feel angry/sickened? Come on!! I have seen sickening incidents, and no matter, you go with your gut instinct and NOt by what is PC and ever so animal friendly.


no because i am not dumb enough to leave anyone's child alone with any animal...
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Reply #56 posted 07/15/07 11:50am

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mdiver said:

JasmineFire said:


THANK YOU!

there is no reason for the animal to be put down but there's plenty of reasons for the parents to be questioned intensely and for the dog and possibly the child to end up in a new home.


wow..you would put the dogs welfare over the child remaining with its natural parents.

i think that the parents should be questioned. This story sounds suspicion. I'm pretty familiar with the anatomy of dogs as well as their mating habits and it just seems odd that a pit bull would "fit" into a child's anus with some significant, outside force.
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Reply #57 posted 07/15/07 11:51am

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eraclito said:

REDBABY said:




BUT if it was YOUR child, abnd you saw the dogf humping your BABY, you wouldn't feel angry/sickened? Come on!! I have seen sickening incidents, and no matter, you go with your gut instinct and NOt by what is PC and ever so animal friendly.


no because i am not dumb enough to leave anyone's child alone with any animal...

right?

there's that fact, too.
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Reply #58 posted 07/15/07 11:51am

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JasmineFire said:

REDBABY said:




BUT if it was YOUR child, abnd you saw the dogf humping your BABY, you wouldn't feel angry/sickened? Come on!! I have seen sickening incidents, and no matter, you go with your gut instinct and NOt by what is PC and ever so animal friendly.

not really, animals hump children, furniture, and legs all the time. my gut instinct is that these parents aren't being entirely truthful about the entire incident and that both the dog and the child would be better off elsewhere.

I highly doubt that this dog, or any dog, could possibly pentrate a child's anus unless it was forced by a human with a tube of lubricant. Now if THAT happened I'd be sickened.


i agree totally.. some people believe anything
are you ready for submission

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Reply #59 posted 07/15/07 11:52am

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JasmineFire said:

mdiver said:



wow..you would put the dogs welfare over the child remaining with its natural parents.

i think that the parents should be questioned. This story sounds suspicion. I'm pretty familiar with the anatomy of dogs as well as their mating habits and it just seems odd that a pit bull would "fit" into a child's anus with some significant, outside force.


i agree with that wholeheartedly
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