I know that because I am American that you probably do not/will not listen to what I have to say but....
I get what you are trying to say some times but you need to realise that your delivery sucks.
No one is going to listen to you when you make blanket statements like you do.

shanti0608 said:

I make factual statements.

If you think i'm wrong in saying natural medicine is suppressed; i suggest you do some research. It's fact mate. NO conspiracy just an agenda which is open. Deliberate disinformation is put out about vitamins and there was an attempt to make certain DOSES ILLEGAL. That's right they were trying to make sure all supplements are only available in small doses when it's a proven fact vitamin c can protect against cancer and is issential for the immune system. I am unsure whether this is still ongoing but i know doctors who have naively wrote to their mps about this matter. The pharmaceutical industry is a corrupt. More money is put into unneeded drugs than into things which can help cancer patients.

When i say natural i mean; vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids and herbs. Chemical compounds do not keep someone healthy.

icke4presidant said:

Who are you replying to, did you read my post or is all the venom clouding you?

Back this up, and boy do i wish Steve were here

mdiver said:

Back what up?
The facts about vitamin c?
The issues involving the legality of supplements?

It's fact; easy to find. I'm not getting paid to be a jounalist on here so i'm out. Wake up. Feed your body and mind; peace

icke4presidant said:

Something,anything just 1 of your fuckd up mental conspiracy theories, back it up just once and when i say back it up i mean with a recognized source like the BMA not some crackpot website full of loons.

mdiver said:

Conspiracy?
Are you retarded? Do you not know anything about nutrition? Go read a book

shanti0608 said:

I make factual statements.

If you think i'm wrong in saying natural medicine is suppressed; i suggest you do some research. It's fact mate. NO conspiracy just an agenda which is open. Deliberate disinformation is put out about vitamins and there was an attempt to make certain DOSES ILLEGAL. That's right they were trying to make sure all supplements are only available in small doses when it's a proven fact vitamin c can protect against cancer and is issential for the immune system. I am unsure whether this is still ongoing but i know doctors who have naively wrote to their mps about this matter. The pharmaceutical industry is a corrupt. More money is put into unneeded drugs than into things which can help cancer patients.

When i say natural i mean; vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids and herbs. Chemical compounds do not keep someone healthy.

I want to inform people but it pisses me off what is going on and how people are manipulated.

No harm meant; best wishes to all. All i want is healthy people; mind and body.
[Edited 7/14/07 7:55am]

icke4presidant said:

So by your reasoning Vitamin C makes depression go away?

And i love the way you laugh at stuff like referencing the BMA and trust yourself when you can't even spell

[snip - CarrieMpls]

Such a shame, it's a good topic.
And let's keep it that way or the thread's going away for good.

Thanks,
CarrieMpls

CarrieMpls said:

Thank you Carrie

shanti0608 said:

If you think i'm wrong in saying natural medicine is suppressed; i suggest you do some research. It's fact mate. NO conspiracy just an agenda which is open. Deliberate disinformation is put out about vitamins and there was an attempt to make certain DOSES ILLEGAL. That's right they were trying to make sure all supplements are only available in small doses when it's a proven fact vitamin c can protect against cancer and is issential for the immune system.

icke4presidant said:

Actually I think this is true. There was a thread in P&R a month or so ago about a movement that is attempting to make certain levels of toxicity in certain foods mandatory and make supplements illegal. I wish I could remember the name of it....

shanti0608 said:

I make factual statements.

If you think i'm wrong in saying natural medicine is suppressed; i suggest you do some research. It's fact mate. NO conspiracy just an agenda which is open. Deliberate disinformation is put out about vitamins and there was an attempt to make certain DOSES ILLEGAL. That's right they were trying to make sure all supplements are only available in small doses when it's a proven fact vitamin c can protect against cancer and is issential for the immune system. I am unsure whether this is still ongoing but i know doctors who have naively wrote to their mps about this matter. The pharmaceutical industry is a corrupt. More money is put into unneeded drugs than into things which can help cancer patients.

When i say natural i mean; vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids and herbs. Chemical compounds do not keep someone healthy.

I want to inform people but it pisses me off what is going on and how people are manipulated.

No harm meant; best wishes to all. All i want is healthy people; mind and body.
[Edited 7/14/07 7:55am]

Wow. I just read this whole thing.


I've been depressed since age 14. I've been on three different medications and have sought therapy. Do I like the way I feel when I am on meds: no, but being off them I feel worse. You tell yourself everyday that you can handle the pressure and pain of everyday life but, in my case, it is overwhelming. There is no help for me to deal with some of the stuff I go through. I have zero support at home.

Whatever it takes for a person to get through it and stay alive is okay with me. I invite anyone against the drugs to walk in my shoes for one day.

Lothan said:

You said what I feel. I love you.

I always find it amusing to hear ppl that have never experienced depression tell others how they should and should not deal with it.

I always find it amusing to hear ppl that have never experienced depression tell others how they should and should not deal with it.

I always find it amusing to hear ppl that have never experienced depression tell others how they should and should not deal with it.

Wow. I just read this whole thing.


I've been depressed since age 14. I've been on three different medications and have sought therapy. Do I like the way I feel when I am on meds: no, but being off them I feel worse. You tell yourself everyday that you can handle the pressure and pain of everyday life but, in my case, it is overwhelming. There is no help for me to deal with some of the stuff I go through. I have zero support at home.

Whatever it takes for a person to get through it and stay alive is okay with me. I invite anyone against the drugs to walk in my shoes for one day.