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PrintableSerious said: pardonme4livin said: Exhausting..... 
 Your lack of compassion and understanding is totally expected.... You are even more exhausting than I am and that rarely happens  .
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pardonme4livin said: Serious said: You are even more exhausting than I am and that rarely happens .
Compassion --> Oh my god..... the eye roll.... have you no heart woman..... Why don't you believe me that I posted that emoticon because I meant it, what's so difficult to understand about that? If I wouldn't mean it, I wouldn't post it  .With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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pardonme4livin said: Imago said: What' wierd is that I never perceived it before. But this this phenomenon that takes place when a black guy enters the room (in white collar jobs). Body language changes, and mannerisms change. Everyone is still cordial and polite, but something changes about the air in the room. I remember realizing this one day (about 7 years ago), and then thinking "I wonder if it happens to me." Well, I noticed that it doesn't actually happen to me, but being that I was more heightened to it, I realize that other things do happen to me. I would imagine a white guy would get it too if he were to walk into Sony Headquarters in Japan or something. Well you can imagine the looks I get (tall, white, shaved-head, goatee, tattoos) when I go on job interviews, or service calls, or parent teacher conferences..... I get the "oh shit" look like I am either gonna rape and kill someone or I am some lugnut with an attitude problem.... I get that "change in the air thing"..... now before you fuckin' hijack this thread...back to the topic dammit!  That fucking sucks!
I have had this problem. I needed a last minute apartment because I was accepted to my school late ( ) and I could only get this one place with 5 other girls. They were all white and from Long Island and had never been around Hispanic people apparently. Every single time that I would walk into a room where they were, everyone would just stop talking and stare at me until I left. One time, two of them asked me if I could clean their bathroom because, and this is an actual quote, "You are Spanish. Don't ya'll like to clean?"  I cursed them out like you wouldn't believe
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pardonme4livin said: I have a few times over the years... I mean you start to believe your press and that you are invaluable to either your company, maybe an organization or team, a group of friends or maybe even perhaps an online community.....
Have any of you ever seriously miscalculated your importance? I'll start.... why the fuck not.... One instance was to my previous employer, with whom I started the company and believed that without me they would falter..... apparently they not only survived but prospered and expanded to ridiculous proportions which has now in my calculations cost me over $200,000 over the past 6 years.... Or how about here.... you believe you have some relevance, some "friends", some importance to at least a group of people here, just to realize that we are ALL easily replacable and forgotten..... So I ask again.....anybody else here misjudge their REAL value to something/someone/somplace/somewhere? [Edited 7/10/07 7:23am] I get 5 ! is that too high?  | |
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jami0mckay said: pardonme4livin said: I have a few times over the years... I mean you start to believe your press and that you are invaluable to either your company, maybe an organization or team, a group of friends or maybe even perhaps an online community.....
Have any of you ever seriously miscalculated your importance? I'll start.... why the fuck not.... One instance was to my previous employer, with whom I started the company and believed that without me they would falter..... apparently they not only survived but prospered and expanded to ridiculous proportions which has now in my calculations cost me over $200,000 over the past 6 years.... Or how about here.... you believe you have some relevance, some "friends", some importance to at least a group of people here, just to realize that we are ALL easily replacable and forgotten..... So I ask again.....anybody else here misjudge their REAL value to something/someone/somplace/somewhere? [Edited 7/10/07 7:23am] I get 5 ! is that too high?  Nope, 5 seems about right...  | |
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jess555ja said: pardonme4livin said: Well you can imagine the looks I get (tall, white, shaved-head, goatee, tattoos) when I go on job interviews, or service calls, or parent teacher conferences..... I get the "oh shit" look like I am either gonna rape and kill someone or I am some lugnut with an attitude problem.... I get that "change in the air thing"..... now before you fuckin' hijack this thread...back to the topic dammit! That fucking sucks!
I have had this problem. I needed a last minute apartment because I was accepted to my school late ( ) and I could only get this one place with 5 other girls. They were all white and from Long Island and had never been around Hispanic people apparently. Every single time that I would walk into a room where they were, everyone would just stop talking and stare at me until I left. One time, two of them asked me if I could clean their bathroom because, and this is an actual quote, "You are Spanish. Don't ya'll like to clean?" I cursed them out like you wouldn't believe
It was the most uncomfortable 4 months of my life. i hope you remembered to scrub real hard when you used their toothbruses to clean the toilet bowl... are you ready for submission
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pardonme4livin said: jami0mckay said: I get 5 ! is that too high? Nope, 5 seems about right... Ive done exactly what you said funnily enough, about 3 years I thought I was indispensable and that I was holding the company together, of course I wasn't and when I left in a strop I think it took them about 5 minutes to forget about me! | |
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eraclito said: jess555ja said: That fucking sucks!
I have had this problem. I needed a last minute apartment because I was accepted to my school late ( ) and I could only get this one place with 5 other girls. They were all white and from Long Island and had never been around Hispanic people apparently. Every single time that I would walk into a room where they were, everyone would just stop talking and stare at me until I left. One time, two of them asked me if I could clean their bathroom because, and this is an actual quote, "You are Spanish. Don't ya'll like to clean?" I cursed them out like you wouldn't believe
It was the most uncomfortable 4 months of my life. i hope you remembered to scrub real hard when you used their toothbruses to clean the toilet bowl... That would have been an excellent idea! In reality, I just didn't help them with cleaning at all. They were some lazy bitches and expected me to clean up after them 
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jess555ja said: That fucking sucks!
I have had this problem. I needed a last minute apartment because I was accepted to my school late ( ) and I could only get this one place with 5 other girls. They were all white and from Long Island and had never been around Hispanic people apparently. Every single time that I would walk into a room where they were, everyone would just stop talking and stare at me until I left. One time, two of them asked me if I could clean their bathroom because, and this is an actual quote, "You are Spanish. Don't ya'll like to clean?" I cursed them out like you wouldn't believe
It was the most uncomfortable 4 months of my life.  I hope the surgery to have your foot removed from your roomie's ass was successful....in fact, I'd be beating her ass everytime I looked at her for that shit!!He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: jess555ja said: That fucking sucks!
I have had this problem. I needed a last minute apartment because I was accepted to my school late ( ) and I could only get this one place with 5 other girls. They were all white and from Long Island and had never been around Hispanic people apparently. Every single time that I would walk into a room where they were, everyone would just stop talking and stare at me until I left. One time, two of them asked me if I could clean their bathroom because, and this is an actual quote, "You are Spanish. Don't ya'll like to clean?" I cursed them out like you wouldn't believe
It was the most uncomfortable 4 months of my life. I hope the surgery to have your foot removed from your roomie's ass was successful....in fact, I'd be beating her ass everytime I looked at her for that shit!!I really am surprised at the self-control I had in that living situation because I have a hot temper. I did no ass kicking, but I definitely let them know what I thought of them. I haven't seen any of those idiots since then  | |
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jess555ja said: reneGade20 said: I hope the surgery to have your foot removed from your roomie's ass was successful....in fact, I'd be beating her ass everytime I looked at her for that shit!!I really am surprised at the self-control I had in that living situation because I have a hot temper. I did no ass kicking, but I definitely let them know what I thought of them. I haven't seen any of those idiots since then mad sex  | |
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LittleSmedley said: jess555ja said: I really am surprised at the self-control I had in that living situation because I have a hot temper. I did no ass kicking, but I definitely let them know what I thought of them. I haven't seen any of those idiots since then mad sex That's not what this thread is about . . .
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jess555ja said: I really am surprised at the self-control I had in that living situation because I have a hot temper. I did no ass kicking, but I definitely let them know what I thought of them. I haven't seen any of those idiots since then
Cooler heads often prevail.....so good for you!! They should be peeking around corners looking out for you though.....I'm Hispanic too, with 3 older sisters, so I know how hot the blood boils in my hermanas.....  He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Just had another instance of severely misjudging my significance here.....
Trying to be helpful, only to have it literally blow up in my face.....
Or what about this..... replying to certain people only to go completely ignored time and time again..... what the fuck? 
Maybe I need to just leave this place.... | |
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Imago said: As far as work goes, I think it's different, Ken, when your a minority. I NEVER overestimate my value. Every interview, every conversation, every interaction of any kind, I understand they've already pre-judged me. I can't tell you how many times I've answered a technical question in exhaustive detail, only to have the questioner then turn to my white counterpoint for validation, often with the same information being reiterated. I have felt this way as a woman, just change white to male. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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pardonme4livin said: Just had another instance of severely misjudging my significance here.....
Trying to be helpful, only to have it literally blow up in my face.....
Or what about this..... replying to certain people only to go completely ignored time and time again..... what the fuck?
Maybe I need to just leave this place.... Hon, what is going on?! I think that you are enjoyable and I am sure many others do as well. If someone isn't paying attention to your comments, forget about them. Don't leave because of that  | |
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jess555ja said: pardonme4livin said: Just had another instance of severely misjudging my significance here.....
Trying to be helpful, only to have it literally blow up in my face.....
Or what about this..... replying to certain people only to go completely ignored time and time again..... what the fuck?
Maybe I need to just leave this place.... Hon, what is going on?! I think that you are enjoyable and I am sure many others do as well. If someone isn't paying attention to your comments, forget about them. Don't leave because of that No no Jess, I would never leave because someone was ignoring my responses to their posts..... it's annoying and rude as fuck...they know who they are....but I'd never leave because of that.....
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pardonme4livin said: jess555ja said: Hon, what is going on?! I think that you are enjoyable and I am sure many others do as well. If someone isn't paying attention to your comments, forget about them. Don't leave because of that No no Jess, I would never leave because someone was ignoring my responses to their posts..... it's annoying and rude as fuck...they know who they are....but I'd never leave because of that.....
That really is a patronizing post..... You ass! I was sad that you felt that way  | |
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jess555ja said: pardonme4livin said: No no Jess, I would never leave because someone was ignoring my responses to their posts..... it's annoying and rude as fuck...they know who they are....but I'd never leave because of that.....
That really is a patronizing post..... You ass! I was sad that you felt that way Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth..... | |
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pardonme4livin said: jess555ja said: You ass! I was sad that you felt that way Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth.....
Most people think I take things too seriously instead of appreciating the fact that I am just a serious person. I dunno, I have not felt like I belonged here in a long time adn the tone of this place keeps proving that. | |
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I remember saying "But I thought we loved each other," as she broke up with me, to which there was no reply. That's when I realized that I had said I loved her many times but she didn't ever say it back. I just assumed. My Legacy
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pardonme4livin said: jess555ja said: You ass! I was sad that you felt that way Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth..... OMG Kenny! If I ever meet your ass, I'm going to hug you for like 10 minutes. I completely understand what you are saying.
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Lothan said: pardonme4livin said: Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth.....
Most people think I take things too seriously instead of appreciating the fact that I am just a serious person. I dunno, I have not felt like I belonged here in a long time adn the tone of this place keeps proving that. Well Ivy.... I am sorry you feel that way here....as you know I do to at times... actually a lot lately, but the context of this thread is far more reaching than this place.... I guess a better question for this thread would be, "Have you ever questioned your real worth to the things YOU hold in high regard?" I have been doing just that....not just with the org...but also with my family, my crumbling marriage, as a father, as an engineer to my employer, as a member of my community..... as a friend.... | |
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NDRU said: I remember saying "But I thought we loved each other," as she broke up with me, to which there was no reply. That's when I realized that I had said I loved her many times but she didn't ever say it back. I just assumed.
Did that really happen to you?
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Lothan said: pardonme4livin said: Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth.....
Most people think I take things too seriously instead of appreciating the fact that I am just a serious person. I dunno, I have not felt like I belonged here in a long time adn the tone of this place keeps proving that. This thread is killing me ya'll!
I don't know you personally Lothan, but from what I have read and from reading your posts, I can see that you are wonderful and loved by many here. I agree that the tone of this place has been changing. I have definitely noticed. There is too much negativity here right now. | |
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jess555ja said: pardonme4livin said: Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth..... OMG Kenny! If I ever meet your ass, I'm going to hug you for like 10 minutes. I completely understand what you are saying.
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NDRU said: I remember saying "But I thought we loved each other," as she broke up with me, to which there was no reply. That's when I realized that I had said I loved her many times but she didn't ever say it back. I just assumed.
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pardonme4livin said: jess555ja said: You ass! I was sad that you felt that way Sorry Jess.... I was venting about this thread and why I created it... the fact is that everyone wants to feel significant... that's why we gather in these places....to be heard and to have a place where we can find some vindication... when we are ignored here as well as in other places in our lives..... say our marriage or other intimate relationships, it compounds the feelings of insignificance and low self-worth.....If you honestly feel this way I guess you are just too sensitive for a place like the Org. I have disussed this with another orger before in orgnotes, you will never be loved by everyone on a forum like this, no matter what a nice guy you may be. There are always just like in real life people who become friends and people who ignore you. I have met some amazing friends here who I can talk to and who help me when I am feeling down. I am so thankful for that . And I have no problem with the fact that the majority of people here may not care about me at all, that's just the way it is and it's not because I am not interesting, dumb, ugly or whatever. It's just natural and it doesn't make me feel bad. I am a very sensitive person myself (even if you might think I am not ), but gladly on the internet I can deal with things like that.With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Sweeny79 said: Imago said: As far as work goes, I think it's different, Ken, when your a minority. I NEVER overestimate my value. Every interview, every conversation, every interaction of any kind, I understand they've already pre-judged me. I can't tell you how many times I've answered a technical question in exhaustive detail, only to have the questioner then turn to my white counterpoint for validation, often with the same information being reiterated. I have felt this way as a woman, just change white to male. OH women get it far worse than men do. When a woman comes up with an idea, it's automatically put through the wringer rather than just trusted based on her profession. It's sad how rampant that is. | |
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