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PrintableMissMe said: MoniGram said:  love that answer!!!Thank you. Spoken from the heart too. If someone says they love me and I don't love them, I will most likely say thank you, but I will NEVER say "I love you too" just because it is expected or seemingly as karmatornado says, the right thing to do. But then begs the question, how often does a person hear the words Thankyou when they say I love you, before they finally get pissed off with you! Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: I would bet my life savings that many men on here have ssaid I love you cause they got caught between a rock and a hard place. Sometimes us dudes fail to realize that you women are creatures of emotion. Now when I actually fall in love, I go to the ends of the earth to make the person realize this. I do things I would never do for another soul!
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karmatornado said: MissMe said: Thank you. Spoken from the heart too. If someone says they love me and I don't love them, I will most likely say thank you, but I will NEVER say "I love you too" just because it is expected or seemingly as karmatornado says, the right thing to do. But then begs the question, how often does a person hear the words Thankyou when they say I love you, before they finally get pissed off with you! When it has happened to me, the person knows I really like them. Either they have to try harder, or it isn't just mean't to be. Fact that I am not with them now, answers your question. 
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veronikka said: karmatornado said: I would bet my life savings that many men on here have ssaid I love you cause they got caught between a rock and a hard place. Sometimes us dudes fail to realize that you women are creatures of emotion. Now when I actually fall in love, I go to the ends of the earth to make the person realize this. I do things I would never do for another soul!
Like???? Usually observation and listening. I am deathly afraid of extreme height. However it was a dream of the someone I loved to one day go in a hot air balloon. For her birthday we went in a hot air balloon during sunset over Balboa beach. I was mortified the whole time. But the look in her eyes was priceless. Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: veronikka said: Like???? Usually observation and listening. I am deathly afraid of extreme height. However it was a dream of the someone I loved to one day go in a hot air balloon. For her birthday we went in a hot air balloon during sunset over Balboa beach. I was mortified the whole time. But the look in her eyes was priceless. Would you jump out of it from a height, to show how much you loved her? | |
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MissMe said: karmatornado said: I would bet my life savings that many men on here have ssaid I love you cause they got caught between a rock and a hard place. Sometimes us dudes fail to realize that you women are creatures of emotion. Now when I actually fall in love, I go to the ends of the earth to make the person realize this. I do things I would never do for another soul!
How wo?uld they know when you truly mean it though, when you seemingly say it often and so casually See you've got it twisted. I never say it often and casually. When I say I love you to a person, I often mean it. It has only been in 2 or 3 situations that I have been put in an uncomfortable position and felt odd. Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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MissMe said: karmatornado said: Usually observation and listening. I am deathly afraid of extreme height. However it was a dream of the someone I loved to one day go in a hot air balloon. For her birthday we went in a hot air balloon during sunset over Balboa beach. I was mortified the whole time. But the look in her eyes was priceless. Would you jump out of it from a height, to show how much you loved her? See now you're just being a smart ass.  Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: MissMe said: How wo?uld they know when you truly mean it though, when you seemingly say it often and so casually See you've got it twisted. I never say it often and casually. When I say I love you to a person, I often mean it. It has only been in 2 or 3 situations that I have been put in an uncomfortable position and felt odd. 2 or 3 times is a habit. [Edited 7/7/07 14:51pm] | |
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MissMe said: karmatornado said: [/b]
See you've got it twisted. I never say it often and casually. When I say I love you to a person, I often mean it. It has only been in 2 or 3 situations that I have been put in an uncomfortable position and felt odd. 2 or 3 times is a habit. [Edited 7/7/07 14:51pm] Lets stop arguing and lets get to fucking! Damn you your the kind of person that likes to go round and round to make a person tick!  Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: veronikka said: Like???? Usually observation and listening. I am deathly afraid of extreme height. However it was a dream of the someone I loved to one day go in a hot air balloon. For her birthday we went in a hot air balloon during sunset over Balboa beach. I was mortified the whole time. But the look in her eyes was priceless. Awww  Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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karmatornado said: MissMe said: 2 or 3 times is a habit. [Edited 7/7/07 14:51pm] Lets stop arguing and lets get to fucking! Damn you your the kind of person that likes to go round and round to make a person tick! I know when I am right is all. And if someone doesn't understand where I am coming from, I will keep going until they do.  | |
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For really real? I guess I'd say twice.
There were two others that I loved deeply (still do, really), but. . .there was a certain connection that just wasn't there. oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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Can there be such a think as just affection? I mean it's not love just yet. [Edited 7/7/07 15:01pm] I really like spicy food. I mostly put Jalapenos on a lot of my food.
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Paradisekiss03 said: Can there be such a think as just affection? I mean it's not love just yet.
[Edited 7/7/07 15:01pm] Yes. There is that too.  | |
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Paradisekiss03 said: Can there be such a think as just affection? I mean it's not love just yet.
[Edited 7/7/07 15:01pm] yes I think so Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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Paradisekiss03 said: I don't mean silly crushes like the ones I get every other month, but seriously inlove. How many times have you been in love?
Me? 0. Without the crushes, a few times anyway: 1994-2002 - THE "YOUTH" LOVES: 1st time when i was 17 with my 1st girlfriend, but it was just because she was the 1st i guess because when i think of it now... why the hell would i fall in love with her? 2nd time at 19 with a girl i stayed 20 months with, she's now my best friend, not 2 say my sister. 3rd time at 23 with a girl who kinda changed my life, we had a short-lived relationship & then she wanted us 2 b just friends. 4th time at 25 with one of my best friend, we had a short-lived relationship then she dumped me & that was the end of our friendship. 2002-2007 - THE "SERIOUS SHIT" LOVES (then it went really fast): 5th time at 25 (again) with a girl i stayed 2 years with. A real serious shit, with us wanting 2 get married & have babies & she eventually dumped me, but i learned the meaning of "involvement" with her. My 1st "adult" relationship, i guess. (some of u here might remember it) 6th time at 27, 3 weeks after the girl b4 dumped me, i met another girl i stayed 7 months with & it was, God... really intense! Then she dumped me too... (some of u here might remember it too) 7th time at 28 with a long-time friend i stayed with 4 one year & a half. It was really serious again but after one year living 2gether we realised it just didn't work out & broke on a common agreement. We're still very close & i'm just outta it. NOW: After all this i really wanna spend some time with myself so i guess the 8th time won't b b4 a few years. The last 5 years have been kinda busy when it came 2 serious love!!! [Edited 7/7/07 15:07pm] | |
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I just dug this up.
Why men lie Men lie. Women lie as well, but it doesn't seem like they do it nearly as often. And while it's easy to dismiss dishonesty of any kind as wrong, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that, while not necessarily excusing the deception, at least put it into some context. Remember, though, that there are at least as many reasons that men lie as there are men, and like those men, some reasons are good, and some are not so good. Take a look at a few of the more common reasons for deception: 1. He didn't want to hurt you Lying to protect someone's feelings is probably the closest thing to a "good lie" there is, with the exception of lying to protect national security. Men have been known to modify truths if those truths would hurt someone they care about, and in some cases, the victim of the lie can appreciate it as a kindness. "I will lie to spare her feelings if I can," says Marcus, 29. "In a way, I don't even consider it dishonest... it's a matter of doing something kind versus doing something right. That's a difficult choice." 2. He didn't want to hurt himself Ah, the classic "the truth would have embarrassed me" argument. Falling into the "nice try" category of excuses, a lie that protects the liar's feelings is a lot worse than one that protects yours. "I can't think of a single reason to lie just to spare my own feelings," says Tony, 38. "I suppose I've done it occasionally, but protecting yourself at the expense of someone else is wrong." 3. He said what he thought you wanted to hear Men are not the most astute readers of feminine desires, and sometimes they will tell a fib because they believe that you'd rather hear an untruth than something potentially hurtful. "I have occasionally defused a fight by saying something she wants to hear, even if it's untrue," says Bryan, 30. "It's not something I defend, just something that seems right at the time." 4. Some things are best left unsaid Occasionally, men will lie to protect a secret that is either not your business, would cause trouble if revealed, or both. The old "cover-up" comes in two types: a lie to conceal some wrongdoing, like cheating, and a lie to conceal something else, like the fact that he, too, used to be a woman. "Even close couples occasionally have secrets," says Peter, 29. "The fact is, not everything is everyone's business. Some sleeping dogs should be left alone." 5. He's an idiot Sometimes there is no excuse. Sometimes men lie, for whatever reason, and there's just no defence. Frustratingly, such men are often adept at concealing themselves, so you must trust your heart and instincts when you sense deception. If a man is habitually dishonest, he's probably not worth your time. Cicero once said, "So great is the power of honesty that we esteem it even in an enemy." While lies can spare feelings, offset trouble and protect secrets, the fact is that honesty is an unassailable fortress, even if the truth sometimes hurts. You must take deceptions as you take your men: on a case-by-case basis. When you've been lied to, trust is in doubt forever, but can also be regained with a lot of hard work on both sides. Use your judgement, and above all, be honest with yourself. By Matthew Sakey | |
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i can't be in love..i have to repressed myself..my life is controled [Edited 7/7/07 15:20pm] | |
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MissMe said: I just dug this up.
Why men lie Men lie. Women lie as well, but it doesn't seem like they do it nearly as often. And while it's easy to dismiss dishonesty of any kind as wrong, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that, while not necessarily excusing the deception, at least put it into some context. Remember, though, that there are at least as many reasons that men lie as there are men, and like those men, some reasons are good, and some are not so good. Take a look at a few of the more common reasons for deception: 1. He didn't want to hurt you Lying to protect someone's feelings is probably the closest thing to a "good lie" there is, with the exception of lying to protect national security. Men have been known to modify truths if those truths would hurt someone they care about, and in some cases, the victim of the lie can appreciate it as a kindness. "I will lie to spare her feelings if I can," says Marcus, 29. "In a way, I don't even consider it dishonest... it's a matter of doing something kind versus doing something right. That's a difficult choice." 2. He didn't want to hurt himself Ah, the classic "the truth would have embarrassed me" argument. Falling into the "nice try" category of excuses, a lie that protects the liar's feelings is a lot worse than one that protects yours. "I can't think of a single reason to lie just to spare my own feelings," says Tony, 38. "I suppose I've done it occasionally, but protecting yourself at the expense of someone else is wrong." 3. He said what he thought you wanted to hear Men are not the most astute readers of feminine desires, and sometimes they will tell a fib because they believe that you'd rather hear an untruth than something potentially hurtful. "I have occasionally defused a fight by saying something she wants to hear, even if it's untrue," says Bryan, 30. "It's not something I defend, just something that seems right at the time." 4. Some things are best left unsaid Occasionally, men will lie to protect a secret that is either not your business, would cause trouble if revealed, or both. The old "cover-up" comes in two types: a lie to conceal some wrongdoing, like cheating, and a lie to conceal something else, like the fact that he, too, used to be a woman. "Even close couples occasionally have secrets," says Peter, 29. "The fact is, not everything is everyone's business. Some sleeping dogs should be left alone." 5. He's an idiot Sometimes there is no excuse. Sometimes men lie, for whatever reason, and there's just no defence. Frustratingly, such men are often adept at concealing themselves, so you must trust your heart and instincts when you sense deception. If a man is habitually dishonest, he's probably not worth your time. Cicero once said, "So great is the power of honesty that we esteem it even in an enemy." While lies can spare feelings, offset trouble and protect secrets, the fact is that honesty is an unassailable fortress, even if the truth sometimes hurts. You must take deceptions as you take your men: on a case-by-case basis. When you've been lied to, trust is in doubt forever, but can also be regained with a lot of hard work on both sides. Use your judgement, and above all, be honest with yourself. By Matthew Sakey men and women lie just as much, and often about the same things. i hate the attitude that we're better/more honest than men JUST because we're female. | |
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evenstar3 said: MissMe said: I just dug this up.
Why men lie Men lie. Women lie as well, but it doesn't seem like they do it nearly as often. And while it's easy to dismiss dishonesty of any kind as wrong, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that, while not necessarily excusing the deception, at least put it into some context. Remember, though, that there are at least as many reasons that men lie as there are men, and like those men, some reasons are good, and some are not so good. Take a look at a few of the more common reasons for deception: 1. He didn't want to hurt you Lying to protect someone's feelings is probably the closest thing to a "good lie" there is, with the exception of lying to protect national security. Men have been known to modify truths if those truths would hurt someone they care about, and in some cases, the victim of the lie can appreciate it as a kindness. "I will lie to spare her feelings if I can," says Marcus, 29. "In a way, I don't even consider it dishonest... it's a matter of doing something kind versus doing something right. That's a difficult choice." 2. He didn't want to hurt himself Ah, the classic "the truth would have embarrassed me" argument. Falling into the "nice try" category of excuses, a lie that protects the liar's feelings is a lot worse than one that protects yours. "I can't think of a single reason to lie just to spare my own feelings," says Tony, 38. "I suppose I've done it occasionally, but protecting yourself at the expense of someone else is wrong." 3. He said what he thought you wanted to hear Men are not the most astute readers of feminine desires, and sometimes they will tell a fib because they believe that you'd rather hear an untruth than something potentially hurtful. "I have occasionally defused a fight by saying something she wants to hear, even if it's untrue," says Bryan, 30. "It's not something I defend, just something that seems right at the time." 4. Some things are best left unsaid Occasionally, men will lie to protect a secret that is either not your business, would cause trouble if revealed, or both. The old "cover-up" comes in two types: a lie to conceal some wrongdoing, like cheating, and a lie to conceal something else, like the fact that he, too, used to be a woman. "Even close couples occasionally have secrets," says Peter, 29. "The fact is, not everything is everyone's business. Some sleeping dogs should be left alone." 5. He's an idiot Sometimes there is no excuse. Sometimes men lie, for whatever reason, and there's just no defence. Frustratingly, such men are often adept at concealing themselves, so you must trust your heart and instincts when you sense deception. If a man is habitually dishonest, he's probably not worth your time. Cicero once said, "So great is the power of honesty that we esteem it even in an enemy." While lies can spare feelings, offset trouble and protect secrets, the fact is that honesty is an unassailable fortress, even if the truth sometimes hurts. You must take deceptions as you take your men: on a case-by-case basis. When you've been lied to, trust is in doubt forever, but can also be regained with a lot of hard work on both sides. Use your judgement, and above all, be honest with yourself. By Matthew Sakey men and women lie just as much, and often about the same things. i hate the attitude that we're better/more honest than men JUST because we're female.
I hate men so much i don't like 2 consider myself one of 'em cuz they're pigs & they're such cowards & all but... God! How dishonest & cowardly woman can b too, & believe me i KNOW! | |
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evenstar3 said: men and women lie just as much, and often about the same things.
i hate the attitude that we're better/more honest than men JUST because we're female.Yup. I really like spicy food. I mostly put Jalapenos on a lot of my food.
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Never, but I do listen to Foreigner from time to time.
I gotta take a little time A little time to think things over I better read between the lines In case I need it when Im older Now this mountain I must climb Feels like a world upon my shoulders I through the clouds I see love shine It keeps me warm as life grows colder In my life theres been heartache and pain I dont know if I can face it again Cant stop now, Ive traveled so far To change this lonely life I wanna know what love is I want you to show me I wanna feel what love is I know you can show me Im gonna take a little time A little time to look around me Ive got nowhere left to hide It looks like love has finally found me In my life theres been heartache and pain I dont know if I can face it again I cant stop now, Ive traveled so far To change this lonely life I wanna know what love is I want you to show me I wanna feel what love is I know you can show me I wanna know what love is I want you to show me And I wanna feel, I want to feel what love is And I know, I know you can show me Lets talk about love I wanna know what love is, the love that you feel inside I want you to show me, and Im feeling so much love I wanna feel what love is, no, you just cannot hide I know you can show me, yeah I wanna know what love is, lets talk about love I want you to show me, I wanna feel it too I wanna feel what love is, I want to feel it too And I know and I know, I know you can show me Show me love is real, yeah I wanna know what love is... | |
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live4lust said: Never, but I do listen to Foreigner from time to time.
I gotta take a little time A little time to think things over I better read between the lines In case I need it when Im older Now this mountain I must climb Feels like a world upon my shoulders I through the clouds I see love shine It keeps me warm as life grows colder In my life theres been heartache and pain I dont know if I can face it again Cant stop now, Ive traveled so far To change this lonely life I wanna know what love is I want you to show me I wanna feel what love is I know you can show me Im gonna take a little time A little time to look around me Ive got nowhere left to hide It looks like love has finally found me In my life theres been heartache and pain I dont know if I can face it again I cant stop now, Ive traveled so far To change this lonely life I wanna know what love is I want you to show me I wanna feel what love is I know you can show me I wanna know what love is I want you to show me And I wanna feel, I want to feel what love is And I know, I know you can show me Lets talk about love I wanna know what love is, the love that you feel inside I want you to show me, and Im feeling so much love I wanna feel what love is, no, you just cannot hide I know you can show me, yeah I wanna know what love is, lets talk about love I want you to show me, I wanna feel it too I wanna feel what love is, I want to feel it too And I know and I know, I know you can show me Show me love is real, yeah I wanna know what love is... i dunno how much longer i can be a facade for you two. | |
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evenstar3 said: MissMe said: I just dug this up.
Why men lie Men lie. Women lie as well, but it doesn't seem like they do it nearly as often. men and women lie just as much, and often about the same things. i hate the attitude that we're better/more honest than men JUST because we're female.Women don't lie as much?  oh, dear. | |
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evenstar3 said: i dunno how much longer i can be a facade for you two. A little longer? | |
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live4lust said: evenstar3 said: i dunno how much longer i can be a facade for you two. A little longer?i guess. 
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Three times. Two times I got loved back. The other was kinda. You know? | |
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The way I just read it I guess you can't really tell when love is for real when it comes from the other person. [Edited 7/7/07 16:15pm] I really like spicy food. I mostly put Jalapenos on a lot of my food.
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Haw? Or How? | |
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One time. Her name is Mary, and she is absolutely stunning! Unfortunately, she is a girl that is from the wrong side of the tracks, and has some serious issues she is facing!
We were engaged since October of last year. We had been dating on and off for a year and a half. She left me (2nd time this has happened) for another man. I am sad, upset, pissed off...but still in love with her for some stupid reason? This is Mary and I during happier times:   --If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind, then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes.-- Electric Chair/Batman/Prince | |
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