sosgemini said:

Dick has not been shy about voicing his reservations re: Nick. Also: Dustin would not want to bust them up, as he's part of that "side of the house".


At this point, they'd be stupid to risk pissing him off.


"Same as it ever was... Same as it ever was..."


They've learned, via watching previous seasons, that this is the safe route to go.


It ain't no Season 2, 6 or All-stars, but it's a great one.

sosgemini said:

I don't recall him speaking to her in any manner that wasn't entirely solicitous, unless it's been out of frustration at her inability to articulate how she wants him to proceed.

She's a 20-year-old with a lot of growing up to do.

Ace said:

i think this show would do itself a good service by recruiting folks like survivor has the last couple seasons who aren't show experts. they need some real ghetto ass folks up in there to make this stuff entertaining because i can feel its going to start get boring the minute jen gets the boot. the daniele and dick show has already become pathetic to watch. no real man would subject his daughter to the kinda public display he is putting his daughter through...hopefully the ick factor will die down.

Ace said:

it baffles me that you try to justify his assery.

sosgemini said:

sosgemini said:

Haven't seen the past few Survivors, but do you really think it's possible to stop contestants from familiarizing themselves with the show before they enter the house?


I'm still at a loss as to what he's done vis-a-vis her that has been so terrible? All I've seen him do is try to heal their relationship, only to be continually stonewalled.

sosgemini said:

Are we watching the same show? Since they entered the house, how has he been an ass to her?

sosgemini said:

Disagree. I'd put it up against any "serious" TV anytime.

Ace said:

I don't think it is since they entered the house. I think there is a whoooole big pre-story that we only know bits of: Things he said she can "never forget" and he won't admit to saying (or more than likely is just insensitive to )

Cinnie said:

I believe it was said somewhere down the line that their falling out began over a substantial amount of money he lent her which she never repaid. Regardless, this dramatic "I can never forget it!" bullshit is entirely counter-productive. The past is the past and you'll never heal a relationship by refusing to allow for the possibility that the other person might have grown.

I sincerely hope Kail goes this week, taking her sorry homophobic ass out the door! The comment about Dustin's parents being accepting of his "choice" made my skin crawl!

purpleunderground said:

whoa whoa whoa, that was tonight's episode?


hahahaha Kail will be out the DOOR!

drop-kicked out the muthafucka

purpleunderground said:

She's a fucking ignorant opportunist and one of the last people I'd want to see win.

Ace said:

per bloggers the arguement was over something much deeper then money...that was his spin...and per bloggers their fights inside the house are much worse then what's being shown on tv.

sosgemini said:

I've read nothing that says he's been anything but conciliatory with her.

He's trying to be a good parent, but she's being the emotionally immature 20-year-old that she is. They will never get anywhere with her passive-aggressive refusal to articulate what upset her in the past and what she would like him to do now. He's offered to go to family counseling with her and has told her over and over again that he loves her and wants to heal their relationship and he has spent countless hours talking to her, trying to get a dialogue going.

Ace said:

they are on a national tv show...why in the world would she want to get into their problems now? she has been insistent that now is not the time to get into their issues but he keeps going at it over and over...and let's not forget how he was talking to her last week when they were in the HOH room...she pointed out right then that the way he was talking to her was a huge part of her issue with him...she's also told him that he needs to act like a father and not like a peer...that his constant criticizing of her is getting to her...she's shared a lot without getting into specifics and he somehow always ends up turning things around on her and making the issue about her. oh yeah, great parenting there. its funny that you keep mentioning her age and attitude yet here he is a what? a fifty year old man and he has the emotional and mental capacity of a 16 year old...but yeah, its all on her.







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sosgemini said:

I see no problem with the way he talks to her. What I do see is a little girl who wants to get her way and makes baseless accusations to do so. The only legitimate criticism she's levelled at him is that his confrontational ways with the other houseguests are embarassing to her, but she's refused to answer him when he asks her how, specifically, she wants him to behave in this regard.


Again, dredging up the past without acknowledging the present. I have not seen him criticize her once.


Example?



No one's said he doesn't have his flaws, but his emotional and mental capacities are far from immature. You sure you're not mistaking the trappings for the man?

OMG - Dick brings it with the quote of the season:

"Do you really think God’s worried about your ping-pong ball and you playing for this skanky chick?"

The church organ they put under Jameka whenever she talked about God? Priceless.

Ace said:[quote]

sosgemini said:

the dude's immature...you don't put your own daughter through what he is doing on national tv...period.

smart move to put up nick...they need to break up the threeway of dick, nick and daniele.

sosgemini said:

I was out with a friend tonight, who got removed! I swear I can't catch more than one episode per week

Cinnie said:

jen was saved by jamika because she picked her ball and jamika felt it was what god would have wanted her to do. oh yeah, that and dustin spent all his points during the POV competition to win 5K and a six day trip, costing himself the game and making jamika the winner. and jen came off as human through it all...odd episode...one that happily didn't revolve around dick.
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holy crap...looks like some major sh*t has gone down the last couple days...if you want to see spoilers click the invisotext:


In case nobody knows what I meant about Dustin/Amber/Dog apparently Dustin had a black lab that he called the "N Word" and claimed that it didn't like black people. Amber thought that was the best, funniest thing she's ever heard. I really liked Dustin up until I heard about this. I'm now appalled. I'm not surprised about Amber finding it funny.
I wonder if they'll show this on Thursday. Probably not as it's too inflammatory.


and

It got really ugly with Dick and Jen last night on BBAD. ED really let Jen have it .... Over and over again and she is one sociopath to stand there and take it with that creepy smile she has! I'm not sure how they can even show it on tv on Thursday with the things ED was saying to her. As yes, he did pour some of his iced tea on her head...right after she made a nasty comment to Danielle about her relationship with Nick. As much as I can't stand Jen, I really hate to see Dani and Nick's antics knowing she has a boyfriend at home. I feel for the guy!

ew.. I never liked Dustin enough to apologize for that kinda bullsh*

Cinnie said:

mmm-kay!!! btw: those arent my words but a copy and paste job from tvguide...

i can't wait for ace to justify dick's crossing jen's personal space by doing what he did...im sure it will be a fascinating defense.

sosgemini said:

I know but

sosgemini said:

No spoilers, please!

Is it really a "spoiler" when it is a recurring event?