I was fine until I got in the car, and I just broke down. Now, I'm not usually very emotional. I had a really strange reaction to this movie. I felt ashamed to be in this country, and I wanted to move. I've got a massive medical bill that I am slowly paying off, and I have insurance.


Anyone else seen this movie? What did you think about it?

Oh god, it's horrible. Let me know if you want to move to Canada or France with me. I'm so there.

gemini13 said:

i've been wanting to go to Canada since the 2000 election...

I'm ready when you are. Vancouver is nice.

Haven't seen it YET but I am already leaving the country

shanti0608 said:

Where are you going?

I have quite strong personal feelings regarding the very flawed health system over there, to do with my past.. of course I will be seeing this film and no doubt it will be upsetting, but at least it will probably not tell me anything I don't already know.




ps... sorry to be a shot of misery, but whatever criticisms of the guy some might have, I am glad Michael Moore at least sheds light on such things and makes them more noticeable to the general public.

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gemini13 said:

England

wish it was Canada but it will do...
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shanti0608 said:

Oh, that's a good choice as well. My husband doesn't like England for some reason.

gemini13 said:

Well there are many other wonderful countries you can move to

We need a revolution.

gemini13 said:

That reminds me of a song:

Artist/Band: Earle Steve
Lyrics for Song: The Revolution Starts Now
Lyrics for Album: Revolution Starts Now
I was walkin’ down the street
In the town where I was born
I was movin’ to a beat
That I’d never felt before
So I opened up my eyes
And I took a look around
I saw it written ‘cross the sky
The revolution starts now
Yeah, the revolution starts now

The revolution starts now
When you rise above your fear
And tear the walls around you down
The revolution starts here
Where you work and where you play
Where you lay your money down
What you do and what you say
The revolution starts now
Yeah the revolution starts now

Yeah the revolution starts now
In your own backyard
In your own hometown
So what you doin’ standin’ around?
Just follow your heart
The revolution starts now

Last night I had a dream
That the world had turned around
And all our hopes had come to be
And the people gathered ‘round
They all brought what they could bring
And nobody went without
And I learned a song to sing
The revolution starts now

I left for Canada in August! C'mon up! I'll throw a couple more burgers (or veggie burgers) on the grill!

I saw the movie yesterday. Of course, Moore's argument and examples were near-completely one-sided, his depictions of international healthcare approaches were almost totally without any substantive critiques and his droning, Sally Strutheresque lament/narrative drove me NUTS. But he does a great job at driving home the point that the current U.S. system is screwing too many working, contributing, responsible people. Moving stuff... and, as always, pretty funny where it needs to be.

My guess is his one-sidedness is going to leave a LOT of room for rivals to come in and mount counterarguments based, like Moore's, largely on anecdotes, horror stories and social ideology. (When what we truly need is to debate logistics and cost.) But Sicko is definitely going to fuel the conversation, and that's a fantastic first step.

Lammastide said:

sweet, eh!

shanti0608 said:

While I have a problem with some of Steve's posturing, he's always been one of the better songwriters and I particularly like the lines above.

You all need to see the micheal moore documentary about him that was unauthorized and not manipulated/edited by him!

It shows how much of a craftsman he is, and even documents how he will make up fictional stuff/correlations to spice up the narrative flow of his film, and he admits he is making movies, not true documentaries.

The Michigan town that he featured in his debut film hate him for his fictionalized/shaped documentary style.

He is a genius creative force though!

Ace said:

Me too I just thought of that song when I read what gemini posted.

I agree with you. I read a book about his life.
Wow- that is all I can say...

shanti0608 said:

Spookymuffin said:

I told you before I was coming to visit- ha!!!! after Sept/Oct you will not be able to get rid of me

shanti0608 said:

Whereabouts you be living?

Spookymuffin said:

Surrey

shanti0608 said:

I live in Surrey.

Spookymuffin said:

I'd be DEAD if it were not for the health system in Ireland, imagine me in the US...they'd ask for a credit card before i'd even be let in the door.

liberation said:

they treat you and bill you later as long as you have an employer and health insurance here. You should know that I know that! We have some of the best (quality and latest knowledge) care possible here in the US if you are employed and have health insurance.

I live near Houston's medial center which, through evil oil money, is world reknown as a center of quality health care.

gemini13 said:

Lammastide said:

Party at Lammastide's house!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Come visit me B1tch

luv4u said:

Canadian orgers I wanna meet and hang out with:

luv4u
Lammastide
emm
PurpleThunder

There's probably somebody else who I'm forgetting.