4 the ladies...

if u were expecting the unexpected and where not prepared
would u

A. have an abortion
B. carry 2 term and then give up 4 adoption
C. embrace the unexpected

4 the gents

how would u support your ladie should she be in this situation?

D. eat it!


everyone knows babies are delicious

C, but then again I would want the child.

sag10 said:

what if you were raped...

HRHthesmellofJazmin said:

I would want the child! It is not the child's fault, could I love her/him, yes...do you want to know why?

Because I cannot have children.

sag10 said:

This is an entirely appropriate response. So is the decision to abort in this situation.

Sag, sorry to hear you cannot have kids. Hopefully it won't prevent you from being a parent, we need more parents out there who WANT kids.

(((Sag))) You are truly one of the remarkable women I know. I know that you know what your options are, but I just want you to know that you are in my prayers dearheart. AND if you want, you can adopt me! I'm an orphan! lol

In my opinion, no child is unwanted. There is someone in the world who would love to have that child. The challenge would be to get a child that the biological parents aren't ready for, with the loving parents who are waiting. My choice would be to have that child and love him/her regardless of the situation of conception.

InfinitiesHeaven said:

Yea! I have another adopted daughter...

sag10 said:

Hey Mom, I take the GRE tomorrow. Wanna take it in my place? Since you are the loving mother I know you to be. lol

InfinitiesHeaven said:

My dear just remember that you are the master of your moment! I trust that you will do well!

Good Luck

sag10 said:

And like any good parent Sag steers her misguided child in the proper direction

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Aw thanks Supa! Let us see I have 2 adopted Org daughters, I need a son! Wanna?

POOK said:

Yep, I want you too!

sag10 said:

I'm already taken Although I would have to make the choice to have children, you know since I'm gay and all, so if I ever have kids it's going to be thought out, I'll be prepared and most of all I will WANT them.

embrace and love!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Supa you are the best of the best!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Hey Supa, on another board that I post at that deals with infertility, there is a couple there who are lesbian and opted for artificial insemination to have a child. (The father is gay and was very happy to do this for his friends.) They are now the beautiful parents to a beautiful son. I know that when the time is right for you and your partner that you will make the choice that is right for you. I just wanted to let you know that gay and lesbian parents are on the rise. I hope that when you do make that choice, you'll let us all know! lol Much love.

sag10 said:

:-p at her newly adopted mother. *Thinks that Sag makes a wonderful mom and that she did an excellent job of putting it back on her newly adopted daughter* lol

welcome back to The DownLoad Society POOK.

the reason this ? has been asked is this...

during "our" sessions it was revealed that
someone here at the DownLoad Society was concieved through a rape. not only was this individual's mother raped but was forced to marry her rappist. during that marriage she was subject to harsh physical and mental abuse. when she "excaped" she left everything behind. including the child that was concieved. this child became the subject of physical, sexual, and mental abuse. and now that this child is in "adult years" these elements of child rearing have taken its toll. we here at The DownLoad Society are seeking advise on how to heal this individual's "LOVE SCARS". We feel this is a high priority and wish to do what is necessary to remove the physcological damage to this individual.

thank you

-HRH O+>
@The DownLoad Society

HRHthesmellofJazmin said:

forced? by whom?

AaronForever said:

her parents, church, community.

this took place in 5th decade b4 this one. Mind u the time period was completely different. we are not placing blame on anyone for there is nothing we can do to change the past. we wish to heal 4 the future.

-HRH O+> using PaperCrayons
@The DownLoad Society
[This message was edited Tue Sep 24 16:35:09 PDT 2002 by papercrayon]

HRHthesmellofJazmin said:

And this is the EXACT reason that abortion is an appropriate option. In response to anyone who will respond to this with an answer based on religious conviction, let me ask. Which is more important, the sanctity of life or the quality of life? If you are giving birth to a human only to be subjected to untold abuse, is that really "God's Plan". Don't you think that God would honor the choice of a mother not to put her child in that situation? Let's not apply blanket solutions to this problem, honestly think about which is truly "God's plan": 1) Give birth to a child even though the child will be subjected to horrendous abuse OR 2) Prevent the situation from happening by choosing abortion. Don't you think that preventing that situation is more "Godly" than subjecting someone to it?

Here's how I feel , in which I'm sure I'll take heat over, again, about the whole, "when does life begin?"

Personally, I believe, if you're going to go out and have sex, it means you're ready for the responsibility of whatever comes along with that - whether it be nothing, an STD, or, a child. If you don't take the necessary precautions, you should be ready to accept the responsibility.

Thus, if I were doing that sort of thing, and I was lame enough not to take necessary precautions, I'd "embrace the unexpected."

But remember everyone...As Matthew said in chat. "Self sex is safe sex."

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

This is an unreasonable argument. What happens in cases where precaution IS taken? Would you still hold the same attitude? Accidents do happen and if someone was taking measures to prevent pregnancy and it still happened (defective pill, condom broke etc...) then I assume you'd be open to the person's right to choose abortion?

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

it's one thing to feel that way. it's the appropriate way to feel. the reality is something different, however. we're biologically able to fuck and have a baby at... oh... 14... or so. i'm sure you know some 14 year olds. not the most responsible people you know. nor are they thinking clearly. they are programmed hormonally to go procreate.

unwanted child what would u do

C. embrace the unexpected

I have gone thru this and my son is now
19 it was the hardest decision I had to
make in my life. I was the unwanted child
in my family and I didn't raise my son the way
I was raised no child should have to go threw it.
He was given lots of love and I thank GOD
every day for my blessing.

Sag10 I'm sorry read about your problem
but you would be a great parent.

If it were me I'd have it. For religious convictions.

If it were rape, I'd have it and give it up for adoption.

Until a few years ago I believed in ProChoice and still do, however a couple of years ago my teenage daughter became pregnant and one of her options was abortion.

It almost drove me crazy that my grandaughter/son would not exist. That this child could make such a difference in the world.

She made the decision and kept the child and she is adorable and I love her. My daughter's had a rough time, between the absent father, ill mannered "in-laws" etc., but she received three scholarships to go to college, has a job and wants to be in the education field.

I think when the hand knocks on your door your choices may not be what you think they are.

This is a very personal subject for me as my sister has 3 kids with a man who only uses them as weapons. Without getting into the blame game about my sisters' responsibility in the situation, the fact remains that she has 3 kids with a man who has caused total choas on my family for the last 10 years.

My parents offered to help her when she got pregnant with her first child, even though she wanted an abortion. My parents took the blind religious position and would not help my sister financially, with a ride, moral support etc...so my sister ended up having this child. This man she had the kid became abusive after that point. To him the child was just a tool with which he could control my sister with his fucked up mind games. She since had 2 more kids, not being on birth control and his refusal to wear condoms and basically forcing himself (raping) my sister the other 2 times.

So now you have this situation where my sister has 3 kids that have had to go through abuse at their father's hands and God even knows what problems we (my family / society) will have to face as these boys grow into men. My sister has finally left him and gone back to my mom's and believe me there is no room for them there. The house is already full but we do what we have to do to endure it.

Now that the kids are here, obviously abortion isn't an option but wouldn't it have been so much better to PREVENT this kind of situation? My poor mom has to deal with this maniac every damn day cuz even though my sister has left him he comes over in the middle of the night to harrass her and tell her that she'll never be safe. The bottom line is that this guy is fucking crazy and the likely hood exists that before the story is done, someone in my family will be seriously hurt or dead. He's already beat my sister, her kids, my uncle when he tried to defend her during a fight.

In my not so humble opinion, THIS IS NOT GOD'S PLAN! I understand that some of you have managed to find positivity in your situation but this shit is so fucked up beyond belief and I refuse to believe that God would rather my sister have those kids and subject them to the life that they've had to live instead of taking the necessary steps to prevent many lives from being destroyed day in and day out.
[This message was edited Tue Sep 24 18:14:28 PDT 2002 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy]