2ndRevolution said:

That is great. I celebrate 20 years with my wife this October.

And what I meant was that evenstar said she HAD (past tense) been in longterm relationships. When you are 20, I don't think any relationship you had been in to that point could be considered longterm.

RodeoSchro said:

You are right about what?

evenstar3 said:

Longterm is measured in decades, not years.

I am not belittling anyone. I am giving my position and why I feel the way I do. You are free to choose your own road.

I beleive that if you feel good about yourself, you don't need porn. Even when you're not in a relationship. We can all talk about our porn habits in the anonymity of the Internet, but would you stand up in a room full of people you love and respect and say, "By the way, I just want you all to know I like to watch porn"?

JustErin said:

That watching porn precludes maintaining a longterm relationship.

RodeoSchro said:

How did you come up with that conclusion from what was said on here? Where did people mention that porn broke up their relationships?

OMG edit.
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RodeoSchro said:

how did i know you'd say that? mmkay.



it's not about needing it- that's addiction. enjoying it once in awhile is no big deal. and being that i'm extremely shy in real life, no, i wouldn't say that. if i wasn't so shy i might, who knows. but don't you think that has a lot to do with the outdated puritanical values in our society, rather than whether it's right or wrong?

RodeoSchro said:

I will not define anything to you. I am not interested in persuading you, converting you, or changing your mind in any way shape, form or fashion. We are simply on opposite sides of the fence- e basta! More importantly, my life and mind are my own, so its simply not necessary. But if you get off on telling others what do and expecting them to obey you (believing) you are omniscient, then I would say perhaps you truly HAVE spent a bit too much time on the SMDM boards while you were down 'that road' of yours.

... honestly when I read comments like the ones you've posted I wonder if next one would suggest we burn all copies of books from DH Lawrence, Henry Miller, Anais Nin, Erica Jong, or the thousands' years old Kama Sutra...

RodeoSchro said:

When it comes to porn,
it's usually measured in minutes.
Sometimes, even in seconds, if there's a fast-forward button.

JustErin said:

I didn't say that (that people here mentioned porn broke up their relationship), but no one that has responded that watches porn seems to be in a relationship at all, much less maintaining a longterm relationship.
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Ottensen said:

I'm not telling you what to do. I'm telling you what porn does. You are free to make your own choice.

RodeoSchro said:

what porn does to you. not anyone else.

evenstar3 said:

Would you privately tell someone you really respect - a parent, teacher, etc - that you like to watch porn?

We haven't been a puritanical society in centuries, IMHO.

There is a reason porn was shipped in plain brown packages.

evenstar3 said:

You might be right. I am often wrong.

RodeoSchro said:

do you discuss details of your sex life with people of that status in your life? and yes, i think americans are still very conservative when it comes to sex when compared to other western countries.

RodeoSchro said:

But in the first part of your statement you did indeed address me in the command form .

For the second part of your statement, I'm very happy that you've figured out for yourself how porn has disrupted your life in your world. However, I live on a continent where porn is shown nightly on network televison beginning at 11pm, and no one cares as it is passè. In short, we. on. earth. are. all. not. you.

And as for the last....well.. as if I or others here didn't already know that .

Thanks for playing, sir. Game over, please disengage.

evenstar3 said:

No, of course not. But then again, I don't see that porn is part of someone's sex life. It's a subsitute for a sex life.

evenstar3 said:

I like foreign porn.
It's hairier than american porn,
but artsier.
Apples & oranges, really.

Illustrator said:

Bel Ami

Ottensen said:

I thought I was just responding to your question ("So says WHO? YOU?"). That wasn't meant to be a command, sorry if it appeared as one.

I know the European values are different than Americans with respect to this. Maybe you guys have it right. I am often wrong.

RodeoSchro said:

I disagree.
My current sex-life includes both sex & porn.
Sometimes,
I even like to watch porn during sex.
I fantasize that the hooker I'm doing is really the chick in the video.
And before you say it,
no, it doesn't get in the way of the intimacy.

Illustrator said:

LOL, that is the perfect post on which to end this thread and begin my weekend!

RodeoSchro said:

Dude, seriously get over yourself.

RodeoSchro said:

Would you privately tell someone you really respect - a parent, teacher, etc - that you like to watch porn? If it was relevant to the conversation, yes. I don't find it embarrassing to talk about it at all. I would feel especially at ease talking to them about personal things like this if I really respected them.

We haven't been a puritanical society in centuries, IMHO. I have a problem with people thinking on "puritanical" terms in the first place.

There is a reason porn was shipped in plain brown packages. Key word is "was". Times have changed thankfully. Sexuality is not anything to be ashamed of and people (for the most part) are no longer ashamed to admit that they enjoy watching others have sex.

As for your comments about people here watching porn and not being in relationships. I was in a long term relationship with someone and we both enjoyed porn. It was not a contributing factor to us breaking up.

So now you have been shown that porn does not (or at least doesn't always) interfere or have any negative effects with long term relationships.

But again, it seems to me that you are saying these things because you are trying to convince yourself that this is the way things really are. If thinking that helps you overcome or continue to overcome any issues you had with porn...then cool, do what you gotta do to get'er done.

RodeoSchro said:

The people I love and respect ALL know I watch porn.

how did a fun thread about porn turn into your basic p&r thread

I heard that when one gets their tubes tied,
it looks like an "x".
Dat troo?

COnsidering the biggest business (by far) on the net IS porn and that it is a multi billion dollar industry says a lot. The fact that people now throw sex toy parties tells me that people and times have changed.

Rhondab said:

I know, right?

oh rodeo, you're on youtube too?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...DEcRtYLkt8

JustErin said:

literally dirty or figuratively dirty? cuz i am one hygienic motherf*&ker. i ain't afraid of porn, however.