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PrintableI am so very sorry to hear this as I have recently lost ones who I could not fathom losing that I had seen not long ago. My thoughts and prayers are with you. very eloquent observation. Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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Karen... 
I am really sorry to hear that.  What a sad thing to experience and a horrible thing for his family to go through.  Silly as this may sound, as others have said, Thank You for putting a clearer perspective on things today.  | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: My daughter is over whelmed, so I wont attend...
Anyone else been through this? Yes - 2 times our oldest childrens Mother remarried | |
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Last winter I bought a really nice futon from some guy on Craig's List for a really sweet price and I went to his place to look at it before I bought it. On my way back home, there was a guy laying on his back in the middle of the road, smack dab in the middle of a busy Chicago intersection.
Two young people were hunched over him, looking as though they had taken some kind of ownership of the situation. I went up to them and told them I had a cell phone if they needed to call 911, and they said they already did that. And sure enough, an ambulance pulled up right then. My bus stop was right by the scene of all this, so I watched...in fact, this scene stopped a lot of traffic for a good chunk of time, so a lot of people had no choice but to look on. Of course, a bunch of people just wanted to rubberneck, too. The old man in the road was wearing a ratty overcoat, an old fedora, and beat-up shoes. He looked old old OLD-skool, someone's neglected father or grandfather, maybe homeless. He was dead. I wondered if he was dead, but when they put him on the stretcher and pulled a sheet over him (I thought they only did that on TV), that pretty much cinched it. The whole thing was oddly quiet and peaceful considering the incident. When the bus finally came, the girl waiting next to me looked at me and said "HEY!" and I said "what?" and she pointed to her bag and giggled - hers was the exact same one as my own messenger bag. I giggled too. MORAL OF STORY? You never know where you'll part ways with life, but I do know that my taste in bags is TOTALLY GAY. | |
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Sooo much to handle.
I love you Karen!!! M MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: Sooo much to handle.
I love you Karen!!! M Ahhh Im fine! It was just a lot on my head... On the way home I saw an SUV upside down too.... Just ick of a day... Felt very twin peeks kinda bizzare... | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: Sooo much to handle.
I love you Karen!!! M Ahhh Im fine! It was just a lot on my head... On the way home I saw an SUV upside down too.... Just ick of a day... Felt very twin peeks kinda bizzare... All you needed was a white horse and a little person and it would've been Twin Peaks. 
M MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Ahhh Im fine! It was just a lot on my head... On the way home I saw an SUV upside down too.... Just ick of a day... Felt very twin peeks kinda bizzare... All you needed was a white horse and a little person and it would've been Twin Peaks.
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I can not express what my feelings towards you are now...just know that I respect the way you handle life so much. You are a so real in handeling life...smart, carrying, setting boundries...I love you. Hang in there.. orgnote | |
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Anxiety said: MORAL OF STORY? You never know where you'll part ways with life, but I do know that my taste in bags is TOTALLY GAY. 
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: My daughter is over whelmed, so I wont attend...
Anyone else been through this? I've been in your daughter's situation twice now--and all I can say is that she's very fortunate to have such a close, supportive mother. It's not always easy when you're a child/teenager, unwillingly part of a ripped, re-positioned, re-glued, re-ripped, re-positioned, re-glued "family".  Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: My daughter is over whelmed, so I wont attend...
Anyone else been through this? My parents were married to each other. After they divorced my mother married again 3 times and my father married again 2. My parents last married their current spouses when I was 22 yrs old (father) and 26 yrs old (mother). I think because so much happened throughout my "formative" years, I just kinda rolled with the punches. It's just now that I'm starting to see the impact that all of that had. I don't tend to form permanent relationships outside of my marriage and I hold my marriage more cherished than anything. I'm just starting to "see" this...so I still have some sorting out to do. Okay...my therapy over.... As for your situation, your husband's fiance is trying to include your daughter in the ceremony as her bridesmaid to let her know she's not being cut out of the picture. The only time my parents informed each other of pending remarriages was when my father remarried for the first time. He let us all know. It was an adjustment to be sure. It will take some time for all these new feelings and the new relationship to be worked out. Overall, there are no "wrong" feelings in this situation. Providing a loving, safe place where your kids can express their feelings is a good place to start and keeping them grounded emotionally is key. Anger and sadness and feeling a little lost is normal. Cutting on yourself, disengaging from life and substance abuse is not. I don't like saying it that way. They are unhealthy behaviors manifesting from difficult emotions. Hang in there Ren. They have a wonderful mom and they are blessed and in the end life goes on. Ya'll will make it though this.  [Edited 6/24/07 12:38pm] I'm firmly planted in denial | |
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 How awful, Muse! I'm so saddened that you had to be there when all of this was happening. I would have been shaken too. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: It is really hard when you experience such a thing in your personal space. And I know how you feel about people being callous. Once on the train someone walked in front of it to commit suicide and people basically cursed that person to hell for making them late
 Well I didn't exactly like the idea of being delayed either but it was just nothing to many of those people and someone had just died.....
When I was 16 there was a little girl that was visiting a family across the street. Her mother came looking for her and all the kids set out to search the neighborhood. She was 3 years old. I instructed some of the kids to check the pool. She was not there. We continued looking and after a bit the parents went to the major street to see if she wandered down there. A few minutes after they left I heard a blood curdling scream and when we came out of our house the neighbor was coming through her garage with the little girl in her hands and they were both dripping wet. My stepdad tried to revive her and got no response and the paramedics came and tried working on her but she was not coming back. Her mom came in the middle of all that and was asking if anyone had seen her baby and her friend was crying and telling her how sorry she was and she even looked down at her baby and walked off asking if anyone had seen her. I have never seen denial like that. She turned the corner and fell to the ground in screams. to this day I feel the weight of not checking that pool myself. Through this experience, know you are loved and that I appreciate that you are in my life. I'm sorry you experienced that. Use it to reflect on the important things in life Wow!RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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I walked by a street corner once in Orange County, just minutes after an 18-wheeler had RUN OVER and killed a small boy on a skateboard. His brother was standing there sobbing. I've never forgotten it.  | |
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heartbeatocean said: I walked by a street corner once in Orange County, just minutes after an 18-wheeler had RUN OVER and killed a small boy on a skateboard. His brother was standing there sobbing. I've never forgotten it.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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as bad as that day was for you, think of how bad it was for the guy in the pool...then you'll realize, it's all perspective | |
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BlackAdder7 said: as bad as that day was for you, think of how bad it was for the guy in the pool...then you'll realize, it's all perspective
That was rather a given captain obvious but grief needs expression. A good part of the grief was watching them identify the man and call his family knowing not just what it did to his day but the rest of their lives. By sharing the experience not only was I able to get it out as they say, but hear from others who also suffered similar life experiences which gives not only perspective but improves human condition. Sometimes life just reaches up and shakes the hell out of ya you know? That said, thank you everyone for listening and then sharing it did provide perspective. SIDE BAR: My daughter is also doing much better! 
It was one of those threads you just wanted to hide after you viewed it awhile but needed at that moment. | |
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Wow, that's no good.
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: BlackAdder7 said: as bad as that day was for you, think of how bad it was for the guy in the pool...then you'll realize, it's all perspective
That was rather a given captain obvious but grief needs expression. A good part of the grief was watching them identify the man and call his family knowing not just what it did to his day but the rest of their lives. By sharing the experience not only was I able to get it out as they say, but hear from others who also suffered similar life experiences which gives not only perspective but improves human condition. Sometimes life just reaches up and shakes the hell out of ya you know? That said, thank you everyone for listening and then sharing it did provide perspective. SIDE BAR: My daughter is also doing much better!
It was one of those threads you just wanted to hide after you viewed it awhile but needed at that moment. I think the org is a great way to get these things out in the open and a great place to expose our vulnerabilities as well. | |
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