independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > General Discussion > Anatomy of a Plane Crash - Scary
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 06/20/07 7:47am

Imago

Anatomy of a Plane Crash - Scary

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 06/20/07 7:52am

Mach

confused WTF Dan ?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 06/20/07 7:54am

DanceWme

eek
I am petrified of planes and my cousin wants me to go with her to the Virgin Islands next month. I finally built up enough courage to go and now I watch this.

Bye bitch wave
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 06/20/07 7:54am

Imago

Mach said:

confused WTF Dan ?



I see shortcuts being taken everywhere lately at my job. Though none of my stuff involves safety concerns, I started thinking...

EVERYWHERE I look, customer service has gotten worse, and the level of skill and dedication has been replaced by cheap labor and increased emphasis on profit margins.

I *know* this is going to affect things that REALLY matter.

I don't know why--but I'm just become a bit obessesd with stuff like this. The idea that we're due for a major avoidable disaster again, but people only caring about making the numbers so to speak. shrug


This video scared me shitless.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 06/20/07 7:56am

Mach

Imago said:

Mach said:

confused WTF Dan ?



I see shortcuts being taken everywhere lately at my job. Though none of my stuff involves safety concerns, I started thinking...

EVERYWHERE I look, customer service has gotten worse, and the level of skill and dedication has been replaced by cheap labor and increased emphasis on profit margins.

I *know* this is going to affect things that REALLY matter.

I don't know why--but I'm just become a bit obessesd with stuff like this. The idea that we're due for a major avoidable disaster again, but people only caring about making the numbers so to speak. shrug


This video scared me shitless.


hug


I have been noticing much the same and have wondered myself

rose
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 06/20/07 8:03am

Imago

Mach said:

Imago said:




I see shortcuts being taken everywhere lately at my job. Though none of my stuff involves safety concerns, I started thinking...

EVERYWHERE I look, customer service has gotten worse, and the level of skill and dedication has been replaced by cheap labor and increased emphasis on profit margins.

I *know* this is going to affect things that REALLY matter.

I don't know why--but I'm just become a bit obessesd with stuff like this. The idea that we're due for a major avoidable disaster again, but people only caring about making the numbers so to speak. shrug


This video scared me shitless.


hug


I have been noticing much the same and have wondered myself

rose


Just think about the thing that happened here in Florida where a high school par-time pharmacist assistant (minimum wage job), wrongly filled a prescription for a lady here, which caused a massive brain hemorrhage, and now the lady is confined to a wheelchair and slurs her speech. Now that poor high school student has to live with that knowledge the rest of her life, even if she wasn't exactly responsible.

Pharmacists have admitted that the job simply can't get done without these undertrained, unskilled assistants.

WTF? Why can't we, as innovative a nation as we are, hire more pharmacists, and still keep drug prices down? disbelief
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 06/20/07 8:08am

Mach

Imago said:



WTF? Why can't we, as innovative a nation as we are, hire more pharmacists, and still keep drug prices down? disbelief


We could ...

if in any way that would make the upper hand richer

it's mostly all about the almighty dollar and we all know that

as sad and low as that is...it's mostly about $
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 06/20/07 8:27am

hokie1

It is scary to see plane crashes and serious medical screw ups on the news, but I think it's important to remember that the media tends to focus on the bad things that happen because that's what makes for good tv/news. What you don't see being reported is the hundreds and hundreds of flights that go off without a hitch every day. My husband is a pilot and the training he has gotten is crazy! The stuff he has to do every day to keep up safety currencies is endless. He always says that he makes his money when something goes wrong. He is in the Air Force, so it's a little different because the AFs #1 concern is safety. It's not a for profit business. At our base instructor pilots fly hundreds of flights every day and there hasn't been a crash in forever.

Just another perspective...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 06/20/07 8:40am

Imago

hokie1 said:

It is scary to see plane crashes and serious medical screw ups on the news, but I think it's important to remember that the media tends to focus on the bad things that happen because that's what makes for good tv/news. What you don't see being reported is the hundreds and hundreds of flights that go off without a hitch every day. My husband is a pilot and the training he has gotten is crazy! The stuff he has to do every day to keep up safety currencies is endless. He always says that he makes his money when something goes wrong. He is in the Air Force, so it's a little different because the AFs #1 concern is safety. It's not a for profit business. At our base instructor pilots fly hundreds of flights every day and there hasn't been a crash in forever.

Just another perspective...


I was in the Air Force and we took our training VERY seriously.



I think it's different when you're dealing with profit margins, meeting wall street expectations, etc. Shortcuts happen.


I spent 30 minutes on the phone last month with an expert "Hewlett Packard Engineer" in India (becuase they're cheaper to hire).

Aside from his VERY strong accent (and I work with Indian software engineers all the time, so I'm used to the accent), and the fact that I gave him an exhuastive breakdown of the issue I was having with their software driver, he basically ran down a script of very generic questions which would take two hours to go through and lead me only to the point were I was when I called him (I used to be a computer tech, and pretty well versed in software troublshooting).
I lost my temper and hung up on him after a half hour.

Hewlett Packard *COULD* hire true engineers to assist in this type of troubleshooting (The help desk guy charged me 30 bucks for the call and forwarded me to their expert "engineer lab falloff "), but they'd rather save the money by hiring cheap labor.

I seriously doubt this is occurring ONLY in non critical sectors of our economy. I'm going to assume shortcuts are being taken in medical, law enforcement, etc. fields too.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 06/20/07 8:41am

evenstar3

avatar

i hate flying. sad before it was mostly about being trapped in such a relatively small space with all those people, but now i have even MORE reasons! thanks dan! thumbs up!


boxed
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 06/20/07 8:43am

Mach

Imago said:



I seriously doubt this is occurring ONLY in non critical sectors of our economy. I'm going to assume shortcuts are being taken in medical, law enforcement, etc. fields too.


I agree
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 06/20/07 8:46am

DaniDaniBoBani

Who is this guy?

Is he trying out for president??

He's pretty cute.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 06/20/07 9:32am

hokie1

DaniDaniBoBani said:

Who is this guy?

Is he trying out for president??

He's pretty cute.



lol I didn't know they had try outs! I wonder what Obama will do for the talent portion this year... hmmm
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 06/20/07 9:36am

hokie1

Imago said:

hokie1 said:

It is scary to see plane crashes and serious medical screw ups on the news, but I think it's important to remember that the media tends to focus on the bad things that happen because that's what makes for good tv/news. What you don't see being reported is the hundreds and hundreds of flights that go off without a hitch every day. My husband is a pilot and the training he has gotten is crazy! The stuff he has to do every day to keep up safety currencies is endless. He always says that he makes his money when something goes wrong. He is in the Air Force, so it's a little different because the AFs #1 concern is safety. It's not a for profit business. At our base instructor pilots fly hundreds of flights every day and there hasn't been a crash in forever.

Just another perspective...


I was in the Air Force and we took our training VERY seriously.



I think it's different when you're dealing with profit margins, meeting wall street expectations, etc. Shortcuts happen.


I spent 30 minutes on the phone last month with an expert "Hewlett Packard Engineer" in India (becuase they're cheaper to hire).

Aside from his VERY strong accent (and I work with Indian software engineers all the time, so I'm used to the accent), and the fact that I gave him an exhuastive breakdown of the issue I was having with their software driver, he basically ran down a script of very generic questions which would take two hours to go through and lead me only to the point were I was when I called him (I used to be a computer tech, and pretty well versed in software troublshooting).
I lost my temper and hung up on him after a half hour.

Hewlett Packard *COULD* hire true engineers to assist in this type of troubleshooting (The help desk guy charged me 30 bucks for the call and forwarded me to their expert "engineer lab falloff "), but they'd rather save the money by hiring cheap labor.

I seriously doubt this is occurring ONLY in non critical sectors of our economy. I'm going to assume shortcuts are being taken in medical, law enforcement, etc. fields too.



I've totally had the same thing happen with the computer tech. It's incredibly frustrating. Businesses these days really don't know what it means to provide good customer service. We just had someone to our house to put in hardwood flooring. He was also going to put in new ceramic tile in our bathroom. He told me after the floors were put in he'd call to set up a time for the tile and he just never called back! WTf! mad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 06/20/07 9:39am

superspaceboy

avatar

here's another biggrin

Christian Zombie Vampires

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 06/20/07 11:12am

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

avatar

You sonofabitch! I really don't need to be reminded of this shit one week before I board a plane chair

lol

God, please kep me safe pray lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 06/20/07 11:17am

Mach

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You sonofabitch! I really don't need to be reminded of this shit one week before I board a plane chair

lol

God, please kep me safe pray lol


you are 1247 times more likely to be involved in a car crash per mile driven, compared to being in an airplane crash/per mile flown.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 06/20/07 11:20am

hokie1

Mach said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You sonofabitch! I really don't need to be reminded of this shit one week before I board a plane chair

lol

God, please kep me safe pray lol


you are 1247 times more likely to be involved in a car crash per mile driven, compared to being in an airplane crash/per mile flown.



nod
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 06/20/07 11:21am

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

avatar

Mach said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You sonofabitch! I really don't need to be reminded of this shit one week before I board a plane chair

lol

God, please kep me safe pray lol


you are 1247 times more likely to be involved in a car crash per mile driven, compared to being in an airplane crash/per mile flown.

Well I always have to remind myself that the attendants and pilots don't want to die either and I pray real hard that day lol I'm not as afraid as I used to be. I would have panic attacks on the plane. Now I just let go and let God wink
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 06/20/07 11:23am

hokie1

Any fear that I had about flying is gone. With my husband being a pilot I feel safer. Whenever we fly I'm grilling him about every noise I hear. If the pilot passes out or dies while flying I'm good to go! thumbs up!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 06/20/07 11:25am

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

avatar

hokie1 said:

Any fear that I had about flying is gone. With my husband being a pilot I feel safer. Whenever we fly I'm grilling him about every noise I hear. If the pilot passes out or dies while flying I'm good to go! thumbs up!

Are you saying you know how to fly one of those planes?! omfg
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 06/20/07 11:34am

hokie1

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hokie1 said:

Any fear that I had about flying is gone. With my husband being a pilot I feel safer. Whenever we fly I'm grilling him about every noise I hear. If the pilot passes out or dies while flying I'm good to go! thumbs up!

Are you saying you know how to fly one of those planes?! omfg


Not me! lol My hubby does. nod

This is his old plane:


[Edited 6/20/07 11:39am]

This is his new one: He teaches kids how to fly. Now if you want something scary...


[Edited 6/20/07 11:44am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 06/20/07 11:49am

superspaceboy

avatar

superspaceboy said:

here's another biggrin



http://www.youtube.com/wa...u3SxqSrAOM

Christian Zombie Vampires

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 06/20/07 11:55am

Mach

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Mach said:



you are 1247 times more likely to be involved in a car crash per mile driven, compared to being in an airplane crash/per mile flown.

Well I always have to remind myself that the attendants and pilots don't want to die either and I pray real hard that day lol I'm not as afraid as I used to be. I would have panic attacks on the plane. Now I just let go and let God wink


hug
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 06/20/07 1:06pm

JasmineFire

Imago said:

hokie1 said:

It is scary to see plane crashes and serious medical screw ups on the news, but I think it's important to remember that the media tends to focus on the bad things that happen because that's what makes for good tv/news. What you don't see being reported is the hundreds and hundreds of flights that go off without a hitch every day. My husband is a pilot and the training he has gotten is crazy! The stuff he has to do every day to keep up safety currencies is endless. He always says that he makes his money when something goes wrong. He is in the Air Force, so it's a little different because the AFs #1 concern is safety. It's not a for profit business. At our base instructor pilots fly hundreds of flights every day and there hasn't been a crash in forever.

Just another perspective...


I was in the Air Force and we took our training VERY seriously.



I think it's different when you're dealing with profit margins, meeting wall street expectations, etc. Shortcuts happen.


I spent 30 minutes on the phone last month with an expert "Hewlett Packard Engineer" in India (becuase they're cheaper to hire).

Aside from his VERY strong accent (and I work with Indian software engineers all the time, so I'm used to the accent), and the fact that I gave him an exhuastive breakdown of the issue I was having with their software driver, he basically ran down a script of very generic questions which would take two hours to go through and lead me only to the point were I was when I called him (I used to be a computer tech, and pretty well versed in software troublshooting).
I lost my temper and hung up on him after a half hour.


Hewlett Packard *COULD* hire true engineers to assist in this type of troubleshooting (The help desk guy charged me 30 bucks for the call and forwarded me to their expert "engineer lab falloff "), but they'd rather save the money by hiring cheap labor.

I seriously doubt this is occurring ONLY in non critical sectors of our economy. I'm going to assume shortcuts are being taken in medical, law enforcement, etc. fields too.


I had the same experience dealing with the vonage help line. pissed
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > General Discussion > Anatomy of a Plane Crash - Scary