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Reply #60 posted 06/18/07 4:40pm

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JustErin said:

REDFEATHERS said:

Its good he likes and drinks milk.. but he cant live off that and you really have to give him all his daily nutritional requirements, vitamins, minerals, protein etc

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Thanks Red, this is awesome information.

But the problem is not what I am offering him, it's him simply not eating.

sigh

He sure is cute though. This is not a child that looks like he doesn't eat.


Eating his toast tonight. Yes, I eventually caved.



OMG OMG Erin he is absolutely GORGEOUS!! and does look the picture of health! nod

But anyway, kids DO go through stages.. I think if they say they dont like somthing, you have to RE-introduce it the following week, whether in a different meal or whatever.

My niece says she hates tomatoes, but will eat them in pasta
I asked if she wanted some grapes.. she said urgh.. so I put them there, we played with Barbie and I ate them and she copied me.. I didnt make an issue of it, but she was hungry and wanted them.. then she realised she DID like them

kids can be stubborn %$*£ lol
but thats only cos we LET them

I will say, and say again.. they will hate something one week and love it the next
they just dont know routine, and play by their own rules, so reintroduce, carry on, carry on
they forget what they like and dont like..

unless when they are older and you really can tell they do despise something



dont like boiled eggs? Give them scrambled, poached, omlette, fried eggy bread with ketchup drool etc etc etc.. they dont know the difference

so long as you KNOW they are getting their daily nutrients, whether in food, drinks or other - that is the MAIN thing.. nod

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Reply #61 posted 06/18/07 4:40pm

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Do they make stuff like Ensure (supplemental shake type drinks) for kids? I know they have stuff like Pedialite drinks for dehydration but do they have protein type things for kids to drink to get vitamins and minerals like they do for old ppl?


They do, it's called Enfagrow and it's sitting in my cupboard...since he gave it a try and wretched. lol


I was just curious- I know that he might not even eat/drink it anyways.
I do wish you both well though.
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Reply #62 posted 06/18/07 4:41pm

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shanti0608 said:

JustErin said:



Thanks guys.

And I like the idea of the vitamins. I'm gonna makes sure that is ok with his dr first and then give that a try. smile


Do they make stuff like Ensure (supplemental shake type drinks) for kids? I know they have stuff like Pedialite drinks for dehydration but do they have protein type things for kids to drink to get vitamins and minerals like they do for old ppl?



Natural is best nod
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Reply #63 posted 06/18/07 4:47pm

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JustErin said:

shanti0608 said:



Do they make stuff like Ensure (supplemental shake type drinks) for kids? I know they have stuff like Pedialite drinks for dehydration but do they have protein type things for kids to drink to get vitamins and minerals like they do for old ppl?


They do, it's called Enfagrow and it's sitting in my cupboard...since he gave it a try and wretched. lol


My son went through a similar phase.
The pediatrician suggested BOOST (this was before the Enfagrow came out) so we would buy the chocolate flavored Boost w/ Protein and he would think that it was chocolate milk!
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Reply #64 posted 06/18/07 4:48pm

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JustErin said:

He sure is cute though. This is not a child that looks like he doesn't eat.


Eating his toast tonight. Yes, I eventually caved.


Damn, it's insane how much he's grown since the last picture I saw of him! omfg
If he's not eating the food he must be eating something else. Have you counted your pets lately?
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Reply #65 posted 06/18/07 4:51pm

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JustErin said:

He sure is cute though. This is not a child that looks like he doesn't eat.


Eating his toast tonight. Yes, I eventually caved.


Damn, it's insane how much he's grown since the last picture I saw of him! omfg
If he's not eating the food he must be eating something else. Have you counted your pets lately?


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Reply #66 posted 06/18/07 5:09pm

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Reply #67 posted 06/18/07 5:41pm

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Reply #68 posted 06/18/07 5:57pm

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Seriously guys, I have tried everything. Sneaking meat into the toast (I can sneak cheese in it), trying to make mealtime fun, leaving him at the table...all of it.

My kid is a big, strong, healthy kid (so his doctor has been saying since day one) he just does not like food. Not cookies, not treats, NOTHING.

Supa, he'll be 2 next month.

Imago, I don't think it's that because he won't even TRY anything to taste it.

He loves toast and milk.

That's it.

I eventually cave because he needs to eat something...I have no idea how my kid grows and not only grows...grows so well.

When he was younger he used to eat whatever I gave him.

I'm hoping that this is just some weird phase.



it maybe I have a little cousin who is 7 and my bffs son who is 13 would not eat anything. my cousin would only eat bread, rice and something like a bite of chicken and my friends son she had to buy Ensure for him because he refused to eat anything period. as they got older they grow out of it, now they'll eat you out of house and home...it was the stranges thing.
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Reply #69 posted 06/18/07 6:02pm

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I cant understand why kids are so fussy when it comes to food???

I lived my dinner as a kid

I still love food now

I remember I hated liver, but was told to eat it.. for some reason my brother hated liver and was allowed sausages instead, but why are kids so fussy about EVERYTHING these days? Surely as a majority, we all as kids were NOT as fussy as kids are today? And we all have grown up healthy?

Thats what we need to address IMO nod
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Reply #70 posted 06/18/07 6:25pm

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Erin--I had the same problem with my son when he was about 18 months to 2 years old. All he would eat for like a year straight was yogurt and toast with peanut butter. I swear! lol He was so stubborn. I really stressed about it, but his doctor said that as long as he was growing fine and thriving not to worry about it. He eventually grew out of it and now he'll eat pretty much anything. He's 7 now. I think kids totally get off on seeing us stressed out. They are so happy when we freak out about stuff like that. I swear my kids (both boys) would not poop on the potty because I wanted them to. Stubborn I tell ya. They might not be able to form proper sentences, but they're little manipulators. Beware of the kiddie demon lol
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Reply #71 posted 06/18/07 6:27pm

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REDFEATHERS said:

I cant understand why kids are so fussy when it comes to food???

I lived my dinner as a kid

I still love food now

I remember I hated liver, but was told to eat it.. for some reason my brother hated liver and was allowed sausages instead, but why are kids so fussy about EVERYTHING these days? Surely as a majority, we all as kids were NOT as fussy as kids are today? And we all have grown up healthy?

Thats what we need to address IMO nod


Fussy eaters are not new. One of my younger brothers was a very fussy eater.


He's a healthy adult...he just isn't fond of sweets.
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Reply #72 posted 06/18/07 6:27pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Lothan said:

No, no, no , no, no Supa. That may work on older kids but not a two year old.

Let him eat his toast. Next week, he'll want something else. If there is a doctor's appt. coming up soon, then mention it to your pediatrician, who will probably tell you not to worry about it.

I'd win the battle of the wills with a 2 year old lol


Dude, I used to say the same thing. But, trust me, kids have an unlimited amount of will power. They will break you. I had a friend who's kid used to hold his breath. The mom would freak out and tell him to stop and the kid would hold it until he passed out! I swear!
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Reply #73 posted 06/18/07 6:28pm

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hokie1 said:

Erin--I had the same problem with my son when he was about 18 months to 2 years old. All he would eat for like a year straight was yogurt and toast with peanut butter. I swear! lol He was so stubborn. I really stressed about it, but his doctor said that as long as he was growing fine and thriving not to worry about it. He eventually grew out of it and now he'll eat pretty much anything. He's 7 now. I think kids totally get off on seeing us stressed out. They are so happy when we freak out about stuff like that. I swear my kids (both boys) would not poop on the potty because I wanted them to. Stubborn I tell ya. They might not be able to form proper sentences, but they're little manipulators. Beware of the kiddie demon lol


I keep hearing that boys are harder to potty train then girls. lol

Again, reading posts like this makes me feel better.
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Reply #74 posted 06/18/07 6:32pm

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JustErin said:

REDFEATHERS said:

I cant understand why kids are so fussy when it comes to food???

I lived my dinner as a kid

I still love food now

I remember I hated liver, but was told to eat it.. for some reason my brother hated liver and was allowed sausages instead, but why are kids so fussy about EVERYTHING these days? Surely as a majority, we all as kids were NOT as fussy as kids are today? And we all have grown up healthy?

Thats what we need to address IMO nod


Fussy eaters are not new. One of my younger brothers was a very fussy eater.


He's a healthy adult...he just isn't fond of sweets.


Oh my younger brother was fussy - 13 years my juniour
fact is, when I was a kid I was not allowed to be fussy at all

I do believe there is a healthy medium.. just you cant give in to all their wants and not wants -parents have top take a certain responsibility for their childs nutrition, whether they scream and cry or refuse to eat certain foods



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Reply #75 posted 06/18/07 6:32pm

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hokie1 said:

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I'd win the battle of the wills with a 2 year old lol


Dude, I used to say the same thing. But, trust me, kids have an unlimited amount of will power. They will break you. I had a friend who's kid used to hold his breath. The mom would freak out and tell him to stop and the kid would hold it until he passed out! I swear!
lol

I have eternally been around children and I don't cater to madness lol
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Reply #76 posted 06/18/07 6:32pm

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JustErin said:

hokie1 said:

Erin--I had the same problem with my son when he was about 18 months to 2 years old. All he would eat for like a year straight was yogurt and toast with peanut butter. I swear! lol He was so stubborn. I really stressed about it, but his doctor said that as long as he was growing fine and thriving not to worry about it. He eventually grew out of it and now he'll eat pretty much anything. He's 7 now. I think kids totally get off on seeing us stressed out. They are so happy when we freak out about stuff like that. I swear my kids (both boys) would not poop on the potty because I wanted them to. Stubborn I tell ya. They might not be able to form proper sentences, but they're little manipulators. Beware of the kiddie demon lol


I keep hearing that boys are harder to potty train then girls. lol

Again, reading posts like this makes me feel better.


I know it's hard not to worry or get frustrated, but I really think that one day he'll just love to eat! Whenever my family or friends would talk to me about him getting potty trained I would say, "Oh, I'm not worried! It's not like he'll go to Kindergarten in diapers!" It got to the point where I thought I'd have to eat my damn words! Once I gave up trying to get him to do it he decided he would. I didn't have to train him he just did it. Little turd he was. My second son came along and I didn't even bother trying to train him. It wasn't worth it to me. He just did it one day when he was three. Your son is a cutie. How old is he?
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Reply #77 posted 06/18/07 6:34pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hokie1 said:



Dude, I used to say the same thing. But, trust me, kids have an unlimited amount of will power. They will break you. I had a friend who's kid used to hold his breath. The mom would freak out and tell him to stop and the kid would hold it until he passed out! I swear!
lol

I have eternally been around children and I don't cater to madness lol


I officially invite you to come to my house and TRY to outlast my kids. I dare ya. They are evil little children when they want to be.
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Reply #78 posted 06/18/07 6:36pm

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hokie1 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I'd win the battle of the wills with a 2 year old lol


Dude, I used to say the same thing. But, trust me, kids have an unlimited amount of will power. They will break you. I had a friend who's kid used to hold his breath. The mom would freak out and tell him to stop and the kid would hold it until he passed out! I swear!
lol



NEVER allow a kid to break you..
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Reply #79 posted 06/18/07 6:36pm

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hokie1 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I have eternally been around children and I don't cater to madness lol


I officially invite you to come to my house and TRY to outlast my kids. I dare ya. They are evil little children when they want to be.
lol

I have 3 of the most evil nephews on the planet. TRUST ME those little bastards would test the patience of Mother Theresa herself. they pull a lot of shit and I always remind them that I have the memory of an elephant and will hold back rewards 2 months later after they have pulled one of their massive stunts lol
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Reply #80 posted 06/18/07 6:39pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hokie1 said:



I officially invite you to come to my house and TRY to outlast my kids. I dare ya. They are evil little children when they want to be.
lol

I have 3 of the most evil nephews on the planet. TRUST ME those little bastards would test the patience of Mother Theresa herself. they pull a lot of shit and I always remind them that I have the memory of an elephant and will hold back rewards 2 months later after they have pulled one of their massive stunts lol


Oh they definitely learn that one fast nod

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Reply #81 posted 06/18/07 6:52pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hokie1 said:



I officially invite you to come to my house and TRY to outlast my kids. I dare ya. They are evil little children when they want to be.
lol

I have 3 of the most evil nephews on the planet. TRUST ME those little bastards would test the patience of Mother Theresa herself. they pull a lot of shit and I always remind them that I have the memory of an elephant and will hold back rewards 2 months later after they have pulled one of their massive stunts lol


When I was pregnant with my first son I read all sorts of "how to" books. After much "real life" research I've come to the conclusion that parenting really just boils down to two things.
1. lying
2. bribery

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Reply #82 posted 06/18/07 6:53pm

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hokie1 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I have 3 of the most evil nephews on the planet. TRUST ME those little bastards would test the patience of Mother Theresa herself. they pull a lot of shit and I always remind them that I have the memory of an elephant and will hold back rewards 2 months later after they have pulled one of their massive stunts lol


When I was pregnant with my first son I read all sorts of "how to" books. After much "real life" research I've come to the conclusion that parenting really just boils down to two things.
1. lying
2. bribery

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pretty much lol
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Reply #83 posted 06/18/07 7:16pm

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When my son was about six he would eat chicken noodle soup for breakfast, lunch, and dinner if I let him.

Don't worry he'll grow out of it, just keep giving him variety.
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Reply #84 posted 06/18/07 7:27pm

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Maybe you can be sneaky and try to put things on the toast. First a thin layer of cheese, then a slice of ham etc and eventually he'll be back on a regular diet?

Hey, I tried. smile



That's how I started to eat when I went through my "I don't like this kind of food" phase.
I really like spicy food. I mostly put Jalapenos on a lot of my food.

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Reply #85 posted 06/18/07 7:38pm

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hokie1 said:

JustErin said:



I keep hearing that boys are harder to potty train then girls. lol

Again, reading posts like this makes me feel better.


I know it's hard not to worry or get frustrated, but I really think that one day he'll just love to eat! Whenever my family or friends would talk to me about him getting potty trained I would say, "Oh, I'm not worried! It's not like he'll go to Kindergarten in diapers!" It got to the point where I thought I'd have to eat my damn words! Once I gave up trying to get him to do it he decided he would. I didn't have to train him he just did it. Little turd he was. My second son came along and I didn't even bother trying to train him. It wasn't worth it to me. He just did it one day when he was three. Your son is a cutie. How old is he?


He'll be 2 on July 20th.

I know, I know...he's huge. People think he is 3.

And I must say that it's very different from being around kids that aren't yours and being around your own kid 24/7. I realized this when I had my son...I don't really think it's fair to compare the two.
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Reply #86 posted 06/18/07 7:43pm

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I had a cousin who was the same way with food. He hardly ate anything and was kinda skinny for his age up to about 5 or 6. He ate nothing but oatmeal and the lighter kiddie entrees. His mom and my gramma were worried sick for years. He'd say frame broiled or bbq stuff was burnt. He didn't even like chicken unlness the skin was off. He drank nothin but water or juice. Didn't do fries or burgers. Just fruit and oatmeal.
He's 14 now and his appetite is voracious. You look at him now and would never believe he gave all of us such a hard time with food. It's more than likely a phase that will play itself out pretty fast. Just be patient, make sure he gets enough and listen when he says he's full. ^^ Don't worry. But if you are still really really concerned, take him to a doc.Doesn't hurt to get a little consultation.
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Reply #87 posted 06/18/07 10:31pm

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My 2 cents:
He will grow out of it, my son did..he only ate cereal forever as a kid.
He is now a grown man, healthy as a horse. I have been lucky with my girls, they love a good variety of foods. We mom's worry so much, they don't sleep, they sleep too much, they eat too little, they eat too much, etc. My children's pediatrician set me straight once, by saying. Your kid will eat what it's body needs, kids go through stages..damn if he wasn't right.
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Reply #88 posted 06/19/07 12:49am

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Like ANYTHING. He hates everything, even the junk stuff that most picky eaters will eat.

He refuses everything.

Please tell me that this is semi-normal.

Oh ya, he will eat toast. That's it. Toast.

sigh


How old is he?
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Reply #89 posted 06/19/07 1:03am

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JasmineFire said:

he will get bored of toast eventually.

especially if he must toast it himself.

I went through a mac-n-cheese phase once...and that played itself out soon enough.

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It's so frustrating because he refuses to even try anything. I have to basically shove it in his mouth. He'll like it but then he'll eat like 2 mouthfuls and refuse the rest.



Aaah, okay, so I've just figured out you're dealing with a little one!

I know it sounds strange, but maybe thats just the way you might have to do it for now, in addition to the usual tricks and games to make them eat.

but honestly, here in Europe, time and time again when at the table, I have seen girlfriends literally hand feed their children...and multi-tasking while doing it. They'll be in conversation, or getting some work done, or passing the salad, and somewhere in between they just kind of take their free hand, look at their kid and say, 'baby-HERE! OPEN UP!' and they hand or spoon feed them. I don't know how they determine how many mouthfulls are enough, but when they reach a point where they are satisfied, then the kids can leave the table to go play or whatever. I recently met my 2 yr. old tyranical dictator of a niece who puts her mom thru HELL to eat- only wants turkey sausage, starwberries, and COCKTAIL OLIVES, but like ONE at a time, THROUGHOUT the day----ummm

NO. Not with me.

i tried the force feeding thing, worked like a charm . mind you, i had to come up with some kiddie friendly dishes that i thought would delight her, but still, could be something in the interaction between the adult and the child that makes them open to it, i think. you know, like meal time becomes a sharing and interactive exchange and they become engaged with you...not sure...but good luck anyway! cool
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