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Reply #30 posted 06/18/07 3:24pm

shanti0608

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I think there's a whole spectrum, and each person travels through that spectrum at different times in his or her life. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. shrug


Well said! ....as usual.....
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Reply #31 posted 06/18/07 3:30pm

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I think we will all be sexually tempted by other people from time to time regardless if we're in a relationship or not. That's only natural, and could be labelled as a polygamous disposition. On the other hand I think most of us strive to build a profound and long-lasting relationship with one person only, and I don't think we'd be prepared to get into that kind of (usually) sexually exclusive "agreement" unless we were monogamous as well. What kind of balance we keep between the two sides will be decided by how good the relationship is (if it's good and satisfying then we usually get less tempted by others) and also by what kind of personalities we have.


There's definitely a rift between my thoughts & my actions. If left to my thoughts & desires, I'm definitely polygamous. But I'm pretty faithful in my actions.
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Reply #32 posted 06/18/07 3:31pm

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NDRU said:

retina said:

I think we will all be sexually tempted by other people from time to time regardless if we're in a relationship or not. That's only natural, and could be labelled as a polygamous disposition. On the other hand I think most of us strive to build a profound and long-lasting relationship with one person only, and I don't think we'd be prepared to get into that kind of (usually) sexually exclusive "agreement" unless we were monogamous as well. What kind of balance we keep between the two sides will be decided by how good the relationship is (if it's good and satisfying then we usually get less tempted by others) and also by what kind of personalities we have.


There's definitely a rift between my thoughts & my actions. If left to my thoughts & desires, I'm definitely polygamous. But I'm pretty faithful in my actions.


"Pretty" faithful? razz
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Reply #33 posted 06/18/07 3:35pm

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retina said:

NDRU said:



There's definitely a rift between my thoughts & my actions. If left to my thoughts & desires, I'm definitely polygamous. But I'm pretty faithful in my actions.


"Pretty" faithful? razz


lol Well, totally faithful, but my girlfriend probably doesn't know or want to know the extent of my thoughts/range of my eyes.
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Reply #34 posted 06/18/07 3:42pm

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NDRU said:

retina said:



"Pretty" faithful? razz


lol Well, totally faithful, but my girlfriend probably doesn't know or want to know the extent of my thoughts/range of my eyes.


I totally know what you're saying. Don't you think you're a bit monogamous in your thoughts too though? I mean, aren't you less tempted by others now than you were when you used to be single? That's got to count for something. smile

I usually wish that I was in a relationship and didn't have to turn to different women for love and sex, so that kind of seems like a monogamous attitude to me. At the same time, of course I've always fantasized about different women anyway. So that's what makes me feel like I'm a combination of both, even if only my thoughts are considered.
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Reply #35 posted 06/18/07 3:51pm

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retina said:

NDRU said:



lol Well, totally faithful, but my girlfriend probably doesn't know or want to know the extent of my thoughts/range of my eyes.


I totally know what you're saying. Don't you think you're a bit monogamous in your thoughts too though? I mean, aren't you less tempted by others now than you were when you used to be single? That's got to count for something. smile

I usually wish that I was in a relationship and didn't have to turn to different women for love and sex, so that kind of seems like a monogamous attitude to me. At the same time, of course I've always fantasized about different women anyway. So that's what makes me feel like I'm a combination of both, even if only my thoughts are considered.


It's hard to say.

Maybe it's instinct vs. reason. I find literally a hundred girls sexy per day (I work near a university). But even though I "want to sleep with them" I don't really want to because I don't know them, I know I might not like them, I wouldn't want to lose my girlfriend, etc.

So my instincts say "fuck!" but my reason says "stay true!"

And I like being in a committed relationship.
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Reply #36 posted 06/18/07 4:20pm

Lothan

NDRU said:

retina said:



I totally know what you're saying. Don't you think you're a bit monogamous in your thoughts too though? I mean, aren't you less tempted by others now than you were when you used to be single? That's got to count for something. smile

I usually wish that I was in a relationship and didn't have to turn to different women for love and sex, so that kind of seems like a monogamous attitude to me. At the same time, of course I've always fantasized about different women anyway. So that's what makes me feel like I'm a combination of both, even if only my thoughts are considered.


It's hard to say.

Maybe it's instinct vs. reason. I find literally a hundred girls sexy per day (I work near a university). But even though I "want to sleep with them" I don't really want to because I don't know them, I know I might not like them, I wouldn't want to lose my girlfriend, etc.

So my instincts say "fuck!" but my reason says "stay true!"

And I like being in a committed relationship.
But how monogamous is wanting to sleep with them?

Although I may find some men attractive, there is only one that I want to sleep with.
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Reply #37 posted 06/18/07 4:27pm

retina

NDRU said:

retina said:



I totally know what you're saying. Don't you think you're a bit monogamous in your thoughts too though? I mean, aren't you less tempted by others now than you were when you used to be single? That's got to count for something. smile

I usually wish that I was in a relationship and didn't have to turn to different women for love and sex, so that kind of seems like a monogamous attitude to me. At the same time, of course I've always fantasized about different women anyway. So that's what makes me feel like I'm a combination of both, even if only my thoughts are considered.


It's hard to say.

Maybe it's instinct vs. reason. I find literally a hundred girls sexy per day (I work near a university). But even though I "want to sleep with them" I don't really want to because I don't know them, I know I might not like them, I wouldn't want to lose my girlfriend, etc.

So my instincts say "fuck!" but my reason says "stay true!"

And I like being in a committed relationship.


Yeah, we're complicated creatures, aren't we? And although I appreciate and applaud your effort, I think putting labels on all these conflicting emotions/instincts/thoughts doesn't really help us understand them better (for example, I would say that my "instinct" tells me to stay true, but that doesn't mean that we're disagreeing - we're just applying different meanings to the word).

Ultimately I think I strive more for monogamy than polygamy. If I'm in a monogamous relationship I will never end it for the sole sake of sleeping with others, whereas if I'm having a lifestyle where I'm sleeping with different people, I would give it up rather easily if given a chance for a good monogamous relationship. But yeah, it's still not totally clear cut. Even for those of us who have a consistent and predictable pattern of behaviour, there will sometimes be moments of internal conflict.
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Reply #38 posted 06/18/07 4:30pm

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Reply #39 posted 06/18/07 4:31pm

NDRU

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Lothan said:

NDRU said:



It's hard to say.

Maybe it's instinct vs. reason. I find literally a hundred girls sexy per day (I work near a university). But even though I "want to sleep with them" I don't really want to because I don't know them, I know I might not like them, I wouldn't want to lose my girlfriend, etc.

So my instincts say "fuck!" but my reason says "stay true!"

And I like being in a committed relationship.
But how monogamous is wanting to sleep with them?

Although I may find some men attractive, there is only one that I want to sleep with.


That's the question. It's completely monagamous in the sense that I don't sleep with them.

I think "finding some men attractive" means your instincts say you want to sleep with them.

But your reason says you love your man and can't imagine being without him.

That's how I see it, at least (in my case, as well as yours)
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Reply #40 posted 06/18/07 4:35pm

retina

Lothan said:

NDRU said:



It's hard to say.

Maybe it's instinct vs. reason. I find literally a hundred girls sexy per day (I work near a university). But even though I "want to sleep with them" I don't really want to because I don't know them, I know I might not like them, I wouldn't want to lose my girlfriend, etc.

So my instincts say "fuck!" but my reason says "stay true!"

And I like being in a committed relationship.
But how monogamous is wanting to sleep with them?

Although I may find some men attractive, there is only one that I want to sleep with.


Well, if you're sexually attracted to someone it would be kind of hypocritical to say that no part of you would want to sleep with them (after all, wanting to sleep with them is what sexual attraction is all about), but on the other hand you usually don't actually want to do it, for among others the reasons that NDRU stated in his post. So I think putting "want to sleep with them" in quotation marks captured the complexity of the issue quite well.
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Reply #41 posted 06/18/07 5:01pm

Lothan

retina said:

Lothan said:

But how monogamous is wanting to sleep with them?

Although I may find some men attractive, there is only one that I want to sleep with.


Well, if you're sexually attracted to someone it would be kind of hypocritical to say that no part of you would want to sleep with them (after all, wanting to sleep with them is what sexual attraction is all about), but on the other hand you usually don't actually want to do it, for among others the reasons that NDRU stated in his post. So I think putting "want to sleep with them" in quotation marks captured the complexity of the issue quite well.
Just because I find some men attractive, does not mean I find them sexually attractive.
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Reply #42 posted 06/18/07 5:03pm

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Lothan said:

retina said:



Well, if you're sexually attracted to someone it would be kind of hypocritical to say that no part of you would want to sleep with them (after all, wanting to sleep with them is what sexual attraction is all about), but on the other hand you usually don't actually want to do it, for among others the reasons that NDRU stated in his post. So I think putting "want to sleep with them" in quotation marks captured the complexity of the issue quite well.
Just because I find some men attractive, does not mean I find them sexually attractive.



I would love to show you otherwise wink
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Reply #43 posted 06/18/07 5:05pm

Lothan

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Lothan said:

Just because I find some men attractive, does not mean I find them sexually attractive.



I would love to show you otherwise wink
Show me. wink
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Reply #44 posted 06/18/07 5:07pm

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Lothan said:

REDFEATHERS said:




I would love to show you otherwise wink
Show me. wink



Honey with that avatar pic, I would seriously consider it.. kisses
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Reply #45 posted 06/18/07 5:23pm

Lothan

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Lothan said:

Show me. wink



Honey with that avatar pic, I would seriously consider it.. kisses
evillol
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Reply #46 posted 06/18/07 5:45pm

retina

Lothan said:

retina said:



Well, if you're sexually attracted to someone it would be kind of hypocritical to say that no part of you would want to sleep with them (after all, wanting to sleep with them is what sexual attraction is all about), but on the other hand you usually don't actually want to do it, for among others the reasons that NDRU stated in his post. So I think putting "want to sleep with them" in quotation marks captured the complexity of the issue quite well.
Just because I find some men attractive, does not mean I find them sexually attractive.


Right, well we were talking about sexual attraction, so naturally I thought your comment was about that too.
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Reply #47 posted 06/18/07 5:55pm

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Lothan said:

REDFEATHERS said:




Honey with that avatar pic, I would seriously consider it.. kisses
evillol



wink
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Reply #48 posted 06/18/07 5:55pm

Lothan

retina said:

Lothan said:

Just because I find some men attractive, does not mean I find them sexually attractive.


Right, well we were talking about sexual attraction, so naturally I thought your comment was about that too.
Oh, I'm sorry. No. There is only one man I connect with on that level. I tend to tie too much to physical appearances. If the person is physically appealing, in order for me to be sexually attracted, he also has to be brilliant. I'm a nerd like that.
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Reply #49 posted 06/18/07 8:09pm

Rightly

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NDRU said:

In caveman terms:

Men are more polygamous--they can make more babies that way.

and women are more monagamous--if they can keep the attention of a man it's better for their children

But humans are unique in that we're not slaves to instinct. We can be whatever we want.

quite right!

nothing comes 4 free though.
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #50 posted 06/19/07 1:04am

MsLegs

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I think there's a whole spectrum, and each person travels through that spectrum at different times in his or her life.

With life and transitions, you learn thourghout life and do some soul searching and realize what you attract is a reflection of you.
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Reply #51 posted 06/19/07 1:17am

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MsLegs said:

Anxiety said:

I think there's a whole spectrum, and each person travels through that spectrum at different times in his or her life.

With life and transitions, you learn thourghout life and do some soul searching and realize what you attract is a reflection of you.



hmmm ...so you're saying that since most, if not all, of the women I've encountered on my travels through polygamous behavior (when I should have been practicing monogamy) are absolutely nucking futs (CRAZY CRAZY!! nuts) then I must be the nuttiest person in the mix? Interesting.....

razz
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #52 posted 06/19/07 1:23am

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Oh...and to answer the question, polygamous by design, monogamous by virtue of nurture, education, spirituality and societal expectation....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #53 posted 06/19/07 3:27am

minneapolisgen
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JustErin said:

Lothan said:

Yes, and those people I am very jealous of. I just don't know very many of them.


Well, I do...and the majority of them are miserable. lol

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Reply #54 posted 06/19/07 4:11am

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my wife wont let me be Polyunsaturated
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Reply #55 posted 06/19/07 5:17am

Anxiety

reneGade20 said:

MsLegs said:


With life and transitions, you learn thourghout life and do some soul searching and realize what you attract is a reflection of you.



hmmm ...so you're saying that since most, if not all, of the women I've encountered on my travels through polygamous behavior (when I should have been practicing monogamy) are absolutely nucking futs (CRAZY CRAZY!! nuts) then I must be the nuttiest person in the mix? Interesting.....

razz


or maybe you're attracted to their insanity because you can't afford to be as nutso as you wanna be in your own life. shrug
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Reply #56 posted 06/19/07 5:40am

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JustErin said:

Lothan said:

Yes, and those people I am very jealous of. I just don't know very many of them.


Well, I do...and the majority of them are miserable. lol


lol


MsLegs said:


With life and transitions, you learn thourghout life and do some soul searching and realize what you attract is a reflection of you.


hmmm



Interesting thread. nod
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Reply #57 posted 06/19/07 6:20am

ArielB

I think monogamous is a beautiful way to live. One at a time smile
Then again, if I ever get an offer for a threesome, I wouldn't say no biggrin
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Reply #58 posted 06/19/07 6:24am

Christaro

I think it depends on the kind of relationship. Most people are involved in karmic relationships. Those can be very disharmonic. And when things aren't going very well in the relationship it can be very allurig to start an affair with somebody else.
On the other hand, there are also soulmate or twinsoul relationships. Those relationships are very strong. There is a very deep connection. Nothing can come between them. Thinking about having an affair is just out of the question.
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Reply #59 posted 06/19/07 10:19pm

MsLegs

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On the other hand, there are also soulmate or twinsoul relationships. Those relationships are very strong. There is a very deep connection. Nothing can come between them. Thinking about having an affair is just out of the question.

Absolutely. Instinctively, one has to let nature run its course and don't be foolish enough to let destiny pass through ones hands.
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