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Thread started 09/23/02 4:33pm

IceNine

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Prince.org ATHEISTS and AGNOSTICS: Stand and be counted!

Okay... I am interested in seeing how many of us are either atheists or agnostics.

I count myself as agnostic, but in relation to the christian god, I would be considered an atheist.

I do not believe in any sentient, loving, benevolent creator of the universe who rewards and punishes his creations. I do, however, believe that there could be a universal mathematical construct that underlies all life and matter and that this construct could be called god. The fact that I cannot prove or disprove god's existence makes me an agnostic, as I cannot say for sure that there is no god.

Call me what you will... either atheist or agnostic.
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Reply #1 posted 09/23/02 4:35pm

BattierBeMyDad
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I'm an atheist! Count me!
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Reply #2 posted 09/23/02 4:35pm

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I'm an atheist.
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
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Reply #3 posted 09/23/02 4:38pm

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I used to say I was Agnostic. But as the great atheist Margaret Murry O'Hara (that was her name, wasn't it?) said, "that's another word for chickenshit."

I'm an Atheist.
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Reply #4 posted 09/23/02 4:40pm

AaronForever

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matt said:

I'm an atheist.



I predict at least one person will say "how can you be a moderator on a Prince site if you're an atheist? that goes against everything he stands for!"

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/02 4:44pm

narcotizedmind

Chickenshit agnostic. You atheists however are a bunch of sad losers. I will never surrender to the dark side!! nana
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Reply #6 posted 09/23/02 4:46pm

CarrieMpls

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Count me in. I basically consider myself an atheist, but I'm open to the possibilty that my beliefs could change one day.

(Christians please note: Do not think this means I want you to tell me all about your beliefs in the hope you can "enlighten" me. I'll find my own path my own way.)
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Reply #7 posted 09/23/02 4:59pm

BattierBeMyDad
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CarrieMpls said:


(Christians please note: Do not think this means I want you to tell me all about your beliefs in the hope you can "enlighten" me. I'll find my own path my own way.)


Indeed. And for those of us who have found what they are happy with, being non-believers...Don't preach to us either. biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 09/23/02 5:06pm

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CarrieMpls said:

I'll find my own path my own way.)

Maybe that's the problem. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, I can understand why some choose to be atheists or agnostics and that it's a belief based on many criteria and experiences. And as Carrie said, it's important that we all remain open to other possibilities. I know Christians are the worst examples of what terrible things can happen when people settle on a belief and then close their minds to everything else, even going so far as to persecute everything else including their own kind. My belief in God has been discouraged many times because of them. I've also been discouraged because of Christianity's hypocritical past. But along the way there have been noble people, precious gems of integrity, who have stood up among the ignorance, hate and hypocrisy, giving to others through self-sacrificing acts of kindness, love, compassion, and understanding. Jesus was one of them, and they are his true followers. At the very least, I try to follow His example. Even athesists and agnostics could do that. What makes me a Christian is my belief in who Jesus is and that He is.

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Reply #9 posted 09/23/02 5:07pm

Aerogram

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So, does the tenth atheist/agnosic wins a toaster?

I'm an atheist. Agnostic sounds so indecisive. Check out the definition...

One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.

One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.
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Reply #10 posted 09/23/02 5:09pm

rdhull

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heathens lol
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #11 posted 09/23/02 5:09pm

BattierBeMyDad
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Jasziah said:

CarrieMpls said:

I'll find my own path my own way.)

Maybe that's the problem. Sorry, couldn't resist.



What other way is one supposed to find their path, except their own way, and following their own?
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Reply #12 posted 09/23/02 5:17pm

SkletonKee

im an...im an...im a LAWRENCE WELK FAN!!!


hey, it worked for kd lang... wink
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Reply #13 posted 09/23/02 5:21pm

2the9s

Ten Commandments for Atheists:


  • 1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me, including me.

  • 2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, unless you adhere them to a t-shirt and wear them around town.

  • 3. Thou shalt not take the name of Dog in vain

  • 4. Remember the sabbath. (That's the day after Friday when you are probably recovering from a hangover.)

  • 5. Honor thy father and thy mother (Everybody should do that! evil )

  • 6. Thou shalt go to hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200 shekels.

  • 7. Thou shalt not go to church when there is a football game on (Wait a minute, maybe I am an athesist. confused )

  • 8. Thou shalt not steal first base.

  • 9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour, unless he is a pain in the ass, in which case I recommend tp'ing his front lawn.

  • 10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house,...nor anything that is thy neighbour's, especially if your neighbor is a Catholic because you know that shit will be run down and broken
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Reply #14 posted 09/23/02 5:24pm

bkw

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I'm an athiest too.

I'll need some good solid proof to believe in god. I'm yet to see the faintest inkling of it. Who knows, maybe one day?
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #15 posted 09/23/02 5:28pm

CarrieMpls

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Jasziah said:

CarrieMpls said:

I'll find my own path my own way.)

Maybe that's the problem. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, I can understand why many choose to be atheists or agnostics and that it's a belief you've chosen based on many criteria and experiences. However, as Carrie said, I think it's important that we all (including Christians, etc) remain open to other possibilities. Christians (and I'm one of them) are some of the worst examples of what terrible things can happen when people settle on a belief and then close their minds to everything else (even going so far as to persecute everything else, including certain sects within their own belief). First, we need some peace and understanding.


Perhaps I should have clarified...

What I meant was, I know organized religion is not for me. My beliefs concerning that will never change. (Although, as for other people- whatever floats your boat!) I'm talking more about my own spirituality and the thought of a "higher power." I know I won't ever believe in the traditional notion of "God" but I may not always consider myself an atheist either. Does that make sense?

Anyway, I appreciate your agreement on keeping an open mind!
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Reply #16 posted 09/23/02 5:30pm

rdhull

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matt said:

I'm an atheist.


thats for damn sure cause some of that moderating you did was ungodly
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #17 posted 09/23/02 5:30pm

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CarrieMpls said:

Jasziah said:

CarrieMpls said:

I'll find my own path my own way.)

Maybe that's the problem. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, I can understand why many choose to be atheists or agnostics and that it's a belief you've chosen based on many criteria and experiences. However, as Carrie said, I think it's important that we all (including Christians, etc) remain open to other possibilities. Christians (and I'm one of them) are some of the worst examples of what terrible things can happen when people settle on a belief and then close their minds to everything else (even going so far as to persecute everything else, including certain sects within their own belief). First, we need some peace and understanding.


Perhaps I should have clarified...

What I meant was, I know organized religion is not for me. My beliefs concerning that will never change. (Although, as for other people- whatever floats your boat!) I'm talking more about my own spirituality and the thought of a "higher power." I know I won't ever believe in the traditional notion of "God" but I may not always consider myself an atheist either. Does that make sense?

Anyway, I appreciate your agreement on keeping an open mind!



Carrie, you're so nice and civilized. how do you do it? biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 09/23/02 5:31pm

2the9s

rdhull said:

matt said:

I'm an atheist.


thats for damn sure cause some of that moderating you did was ungodly


lol
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Reply #19 posted 09/23/02 5:32pm

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rdhull said:

matt said:

I'm an atheist.


thats for damn sure cause some of that moderating you did was ungodly



lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #20 posted 09/23/02 5:32pm

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2the9s said:

Ten Commandments for Atheists:


lol
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #21 posted 09/23/02 5:32pm

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AaronForever said:



Carrie, you're so nice and civilized. how do you do it? biggrin


hee hee Thanks Aaron! Maybe I should give you some tips so we can keep you around!! smile
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Reply #22 posted 09/23/02 5:33pm

bkw

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I'm actually Australian.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #23 posted 09/23/02 5:34pm

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rdhull said:

heathens lol


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Reply #24 posted 09/23/02 5:37pm

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CarrieMpls said:

AaronForever said:



Carrie, you're so nice and civilized. how do you do it? biggrin


hee hee Thanks Aaron! Maybe I should give you some tips so we can keep you around!! smile



inquiring minds want to know!
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Reply #25 posted 09/23/02 5:49pm

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Aerogram said:

rdhull said:

heathens lol


biggrin


Youre my fav of the heathens...corrupt me please lol
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #26 posted 09/23/02 5:57pm

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Hi 4 those of u who dont know im Harmony but y'all can call me 'Agnostic' hehe

Seriously ... i wish it wasnt such a critical issue so i could celebrate my faith rather than mourn it but there is so much 2 think about there4 i myself do not feel lucky in any case, eventhough I know there r not answers 2 everything.. its just hard!! ... I do strongly believe however that there is something above and below (not literally, im not talking about the Christian heaven n hell concept) ... more like a personal & impersonal energy that underlines xistence ... but which way do we go? Well thats 4 us 2 decide, we can choose whether 2 do this (possibly b/c of one big Atonement??? But by a man Jesus im not 2 sure) or that (main point is 2 strive 2 become something higher than ourselves... well higher as in 'get closer 2 the unknown' ... its all about learning, working n growth blah blah blah hehe)but nature and such things can propel us in other directions & make us think otherwise ... hot damn 2 much ... did I mention that I dot think there is an “end” ... eternity is now ... everything has an origin ... so perhaps we will “meet and understand” ours in another dimension ...???

... so yes in truth here i sit an overwhelmed Agnostic/Panentheist smile


WHHOOOPS sorry 4 blabbing ... hehe i just wanted 2 vent ... once my fingers start i can sometimes never get them 2 stop ... well easily anyway ... hehe


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Reply #27 posted 09/23/02 6:23pm

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BattierBeMyDaddy said:

CarrieMpls said:


(Christians please note: Do not think this means I want you to tell me all about your beliefs in the hope you can "enlighten" me. I'll find my own path my own way.)


Indeed. And for those of us who have found what they are happy with, being non-believers...Don't preach to us either. biggrin


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sorry, I couldn't resist
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Reply #28 posted 09/23/02 6:45pm

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rdhull said:

Aerogram said:

rdhull said:

heathens lol


biggrin


Youre my fav of the heathens...corrupt me please lol


Sure thing! You know, RD, theists are for more likely to self-flaggelate, and that can't be healthy. smile

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Reply #29 posted 09/23/02 6:47pm

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I Sir,
am a GODLESS HEATHEN if you will
I believe in a greater harmony that encompasses
an even larger realm than that which is claimed by them.
wave ATHEIST I AM...
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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