and let this kid whose been absolutely shitty and atrocious the whole last half of the year turn in his final project that was due Friday today? He basically has a high F at around 56%. If I give him credit on the final project he'll pass with a D -. This kid is all wanna be thug, talks a bunch of shit, gives me problems, but came in today during snack and was weeping like no other saying "come on Mr.C, I wanna walk in the ceremony with all my homies, I know I been a bad kid in your class but just do me this one favor." Grades are do this afternoon. He is on the no walk list cause of my class. My logic tells me forget this little punk, but my heart says cosmic fate will reward me and maybe this kid will find Jesus and hope in people and not treat his next teacher like crap and go on to win a Pulitzer. Well anyway, I have till 2:30 to decide his fate. Should I go with logic or kindess?

karmatornado said:

Fail the fucker it will make a man of him

Dude, logic...always go with logic.

I feel bad, but there are due dates for a reason. I wouldn't help him out

See the other tough thing is mom cand grandma came in at the beginning of my prep (period where I have no class but just prepare, so I basically have a 1 and a 1/2 hour lunch) and gave me the water works and told me he is a really good boy at heart and that if he passed it could change his life and get him off the streets.. blah ... blah ... blah. I hate seeing moms and grandmas weep

I say forgive him!
He's just one day late

karmatornado said:

So he will learn that the water works get what he want,,you will create a ghetto pussy...fail him

Have him promise that if you help him he promises to change his ways and become a better person, if you help him, he'll have dedicate himself into helping someone else in the future as well as study harder and never fail duty again...

Pass him.

Give him a chance to prove how regretful and motivated he is by giving him an extra assignment. Preferably a tough one. If he completes it on time and does it well you can feel justified in following your heart just as you can feel justified in failing him if he doesn't even take this second chance.

PANDURITO said:

I've had a few late turn-ins, but there were late penalties accessed.

I can tell the kid took his time on the assignment, but bear in mind this is the same kid who tried to steal my cell phone earlier this year! So I have grounds for nastiness.

you class is the only class he is failing in ?

karmatornado said:

Dude fail the bitch...if you want i will tell him

Mach said:

Hes getting D's and C's in his other classes. Its more cause the others are tired of him. Hes already failed once in 7th grade. SO hes like a 3rd year kid at a 2 year school

What does your gut tell you to do? You are smart and sensible.

karmatornado said:

the way you make it sound is less like your his teacher and more like your his classmate lol


personal issuses aside with the kid.if he turned in something deemable of that D- then yeah let him pass.

seriously do u think u should be posting important stuff like this online

seek advice from your colleagues, not from a bunch rude mf'ers like us...

lol

eraclito said:

My collegues all are socially promoting him!

What a tough call Karma.

He's barely getting through any of his classes.

He has an awful attitude.

He stole from you. He didn't try to, he did and got caught.

Considering all that, if it looks like he worked really hard on the project I'd bet the crying mom and grandma did most, if not all, of the work.

One side of the coin...pass him and get him out of your school.

Other side of the coin... flunk him, have to deal with him more.

I say those are the only two sides of the coin. It doesn't look like he's going to learn any life lessons at this point.

Pass him and hand him over to the school of hard knocks.

is the class something he's passionate about? then fail him and make him learn discipline.

is it something he doesn't care that much about and he just has to take the class because it's required? give him the break. why waste another year of both of your time?

maybe that wasn't the soundest logic in the world, but that's my two cents.

Nothinbutjoy said:

prison...




either way, it looks as if this kid will end up in the criminal justice system if something doesn't change. The mother should have walked in and said....FAIL him. I would be more upset that you've passed him and I knew he didn't deserve it.

Does he need another chance or is this kid really a true thug? There is a difference.

Too many of our kids are getting passed on because some don't want to "deal" with them.

The question is, what type of TEACHER are you?

mdiver said:

That's what I say. Punk-ass b!tch needs to learn discipline. He sure ain't getting it from his brain-dead mom.

Times like this I thank the good lord for the son I have. He graduates from California Polytechnic University this Saturday, with a major in Philosophy!!

eraclito said:

yes I have learned to never rely on the org for real world advice...

PaisleyPark5083 said:

Times like this makes me glad I don't have to deal with kids. I'm too apathetic to discipline.

I see both sides of the arguement I have had friends along with myself that had to go to tutoring and go to study weekends at schools just to pass math tests, and it made us angry that other students were just getting passed for no reason when everyone knew that they did not try.

jess555ja said:

Deadlines suck!

Paradisekiss03 said:

Howevever, to add I am sure this happens in schools across the country.