AnckSuNamun said:

But they are needed!

shanti0608 said:

why, there are actually some smart focus on the org but normally you go to orgnotes to get the REAL answer.





So he has a brain dead mother and he's gonna truly learn from thishe he's failed?

I'm not even saying pass him BUT bad children come from bad parenting.

Rhondab said:[quote]

shanti0608 said:

hehe- I was being sarcastic...



yes there are some very smart, sensible ppl here- Karma is one of them. He holds the answer.

::waiting for his decision::

I just want to add that when I would fail in high school math my father would say, "You are going to fail? Too bad! Your going to stay there with all the dumbasses from last year if you can't pass"
Yeah well, I passed.

Paradisekiss03 said:

good dad.


I know my mother would just say fail her....and then whoop my ass.....

Go with kindness.Holding him back will only create a bigger problem 4 society.At least he turned the project in.Haven't we all done something deserving of a 2nd chance? Some of the best people in the world have turned their lives around due 2 2nd chances. Lethimgo,please?

I understand the dilemma that you are having, and I see both sides to the argument. I would honestly say fail him even though I wish you didn't have to.... my reasoning is that if he is now failing school he will fail next year and next year and the next! This one extra semester of redoing his credits could instill a work ethic that will carry him through....not an easy pass through school.

I trust your judgement and you know what type of potential he has but what will motivate him to progress if he can breeze by and walk with failing grades!

shanti0608 said:

are u allowed to talk to me .. lol

or will a moderator slap my wrists even though you posted to me first.

It was a general comment. I never let mods rule me either.

Just commenting on how ppl think they know what is best for others really.

It is all good!

You know what? It's kids like him who get away with a lot in life by being assholes. And now that the chips are down, he needs a favor? Trust me your class is not THE reason he is failing. He is failing bucause he is doing bad in ALL of his classes. And now it all rests on you? Nice! And even had him mom and grandma give you a guilt trip? Where were they when he was at the point of actually improving his grade. You know maybe if he showed one ounce of effort and maybe turned in his LAST project on time.

I really think you should give him the grade he deserves. And maybe a lesson can be learned here.

karmatornado said:

So passing him helps him out how?

shanti0608 said:

i happen to agree with your comment, i was just expressing surprise that u replied directly to me

eraclito said:

That's just me I guess...

shanti0608 said:

its cool ..

karmatornado said:

I hate seeing moms and grandmas being taken advantage of.


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superspaceboy said:

this isn't the type that gets away with being an asshole.....this is the type that will end up in jail.

I think mom and grandma did the guilt thing on their own.

I blame them for this mess. Can we fail them?

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

oh please...they are half the problem.

Rhondab said:

for real, they need to get a clue, and bring up their babies right...

superspaceboy said:

Co-sign.

My sister-in-law's a teacher on Long Island, and she has to deal with this nonsense all the time. Many times, the parents are worse than the damn kids, coming to the school acting all ghetto & sh!t. I feel for the good teachers - the ones who actually care and try their best to educate some of these knuckleheads. You all deserve combat pay. I'd probably lose my cool and give them the ol' Catholic school discipline.

Rhondab said:

I think that's a bit simplistic. From the way Karma has posted in the past, a hard working, caring teacher is the type of teacher Karma is. If the kid is getting support for his bad attitude and lack of motivation at home, which it would appear he is as Mom and Grandma called crying for the kid to get a break instead of telling him it was time for him to deal with the consequences of his actions.

This kid is now a senior. He was failed by HIS PARENTS a LONG time before Karma came around. He was already set back once. As I said it's a tough call. It would take a concentrated TEAM effort, to make a difference with this kid. And in the end, the KID has to come around.

How 'bout this.....pass him but you and your boys give him a kicking as a lesson

retina said:

Excellent idea Retina!

Teacher said:

. I would accept his project but take something off for the lateness. But I like this too. Is there time for him to do something for extra credit?
I always try to go with the kindness but then I'm a softie.

Teacher said:

Thanks!
It's just what I've done with troublesome students in the past, and it usually works out quite well.

retina said:

Me too, they whine about it a lot but they usually appreciate it later.

Nothinbutjoy said:

I wasn't even heading down the road you're travellin'...and I spoke with Karma via orgnotes.

I know you've already probably made your decision but if it was my choice, I would have flunked him...

if you just let him pass even this one time he will go on thinking that it's okay in life to do nothing and then when it comes down to the end do a little extra to get it done with. He will always take the easy way out and think everyone will give him a cut when they won't...

might as well learn someday.

Interesting...do tell, what have you decided to do? Well he pass or fail?

It wouldn't b fair 4 the other students