CalhounSq said: sosgemini said: i thought a reporter asked him about it, no?
I may not have seen the whole thing but he didn't seem prompted to say anything - it looked (to me) like Shondra (the producer) was @ the mic asnwering questions & he just kinda popped in & said this. But I only saw edited reports, I could be missing a piece of the story. Even if he was asked it's silly of him to have repeated the very slur that caused the controversy... his answer was in response to a reporter's question. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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The original f-word incident happened while they were filming episodes of Grey's Anatomy, and he apparently said the f-word while making a comment about T.R. Knight to castmate Patrick Dempsey. This led to a scuffle which was widely reported in the media. At the time T.R. Knight had not openly declared that he was gay, but he later came out of the closet during an appearance on "The Ellen Degeneres Show." At any rate, Isaiah Washington apologized to T.R. Knight and the incident appeared to be over. However, during the Golden Globe Awards, when the cast and executive producer answered questions backstage after winning an award for Best Television Drama, a reporter asked a question about the incident, at which point Isaiah went to the microphone and uttered the f-word again. It was this incident which snowballed into a huge controversy, leading people to call for his firing. He later went to "rehab" for this incident and appeared in public service spots supporting gay people.
As for being fired from the show, what technically happened was that his contract was up for renewal, and ABC declined to pick up his option for the show. The network probably considered firing him earlier in the season but realized that they would have plot issues, since he was an integral character on the show, and they would have had to come up with a freaky scenario to explain his absence. But realizing that his contract was up at the end of the season, this gave them time to resolve his character plotline. As for any legal action Isaiah may or may not take, he doesn't have much ground to stand on in this case, since his contract had expired and ABC held the options for future episodes. [Edited 6/9/07 7:16am] | |
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Not a good look on Isiah's part. Dumb actually. | |
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yeah, if someone...a coworker insults you, you would want them fired too. | |
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728huey said: The original f-word incident happened while they were filming episodes of Grey's Anatomy, and he apparently said the f-word while making a comment about T.R. Knight to castmate Patrick Dempsey. This led to a scuffle which was widely reported in the media. At the time T.R. Knight had not openly declared that he was gay, but he later came out of the closet during an appearance on "The Ellen Degeneres Show." At any rate, Isaiah Washington apologized to T.R. Knight and the incident appeared to be over. However, during the Golden Globe Awards, when the cast and executive producer answered questions backstage after winning an award for Best Television Drama, a reporter asked a question about the incident, at which point Isaiah went to the microphone and uttered the f-word again. It was this incident which snowballed into a huge controversy, leading people to call for his firing. He later went to "rehab" for this incident and appeared in public service spots supporting gay people.
See. that's what I thought had happened.As for being fired from the show, what technically happened was that his contract was up for renewal, and ABC declined to pick up his option for the show. The network probably considered firing him earlier in the season but realized that they would have plot issues, since he was an integral character on the show, and they would have had to come up with a freaky scenario to explain his absence. But realizing that his contract was up at the end of the season, this gave them time to resolve his character plotline. As for any legal action Isaiah may or may not take, he doesn't have much ground to stand on in this case, since his contract had expired and ABC held the options for future episodes. [Edited 6/9/07 7:16am] | |
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728huey said: The original f-word incident happened while they were filming episodes of Grey's Anatomy, and he apparently said the f-word while making a comment about T.R. Knight to castmate Patrick Dempsey. This led to a scuffle which was widely reported in the media. At the time T.R. Knight had not openly declared that he was gay, but he later came out of the closet during an appearance on "The Ellen Degeneres Show." At any rate, Isaiah Washington apologized to T.R. Knight and the incident appeared to be over. However, during the Golden Globe Awards, when the cast and executive producer answered questions backstage after winning an award for Best Television Drama, a reporter asked a question about the incident, at which point Isaiah went to the microphone and uttered the f-word again. It was this incident which snowballed into a huge controversy, leading people to call for his firing. He later went to "rehab" for this incident and appeared in public service spots supporting gay people.
As for being fired from the show, what technically happened was that his contract was up for renewal, and ABC declined to pick up his option for the show. The network probably considered firing him earlier in the season but realized that they would have plot issues, since he was an integral character on the show, and they would have had to come up with a freaky scenario to explain his absence. But realizing that his contract was up at the end of the season, this gave them time to resolve his character plotline. As for any legal action Isaiah may or may not take, he doesn't have much ground to stand on in this case, since his contract had expired and ABC held the options for future episodes. [Edited 6/9/07 7:16am] Thanks for the recap. He actually came out before his appearance on The Ellen Degeneres Show. He tried to make as little a deal about it as possible: Source EXCLUSIVE: Grey's Anatomy star T.R. Knight Confirms He's Gay THURSDAY OCTOBER 19, 2006 03:30 PM EDT Grey's Anatomy's T.R. Knight is gay, he has confirmed exclusively to PEOPLE. "I guess there have been a few questions about my sexuality, and I'd like to quiet any unnecessary rumors that may be out there," Knight tells PEOPLE in a statement. "While I prefer to keep my personal life private, I hope the fact that I'm gay isn't the most interesting part of me." Knight, 33, plays the unassuming Dr. George O'Malley on the hit ABC drama. A Minneapolis native, he began his career in that city's famed Guthrie Theater. He has also appeared on CSI: Crime Scene Investigation and Law & Order: Criminal Intent. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Thanks for the recap. He actually came out before his appearance on The Ellen Degeneres Show.
right. the Ellen appearance was after the Globes to respond to Washington's denial of using the word the first time. http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/ http://twitter.com/madartista | |
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728huey said: The original f-word incident happened while they were filming episodes of Grey's Anatomy, and he apparently said the f-word while making a comment about T.R. Knight to castmate Patrick Dempsey. This led to a scuffle which was widely reported in the media. At the time T.R. Knight had not openly declared that he was gay, but he later came out of the closet during an appearance on "The Ellen Degeneres Show." At any rate, Isaiah Washington apologized to T.R. Knight and the incident appeared to be over. However, during the Golden Globe Awards, when the cast and executive producer answered questions backstage after winning an award for Best Television Drama, a reporter asked a question about the incident, at which point Isaiah went to the microphone and uttered the f-word again. It was this incident which snowballed into a huge controversy, leading people to call for his firing. He later went to "rehab" for this incident and appeared in public service spots supporting gay people.
As for being fired from the show, what technically happened was that his contract was up for renewal, and ABC declined to pick up his option for the show. The network probably considered firing him earlier in the season but realized that they would have plot issues, since he was an integral character on the show, and they would have had to come up with a freaky scenario to explain his absence. But realizing that his contract was up at the end of the season, this gave them time to resolve his character plotline. As for any legal action Isaiah may or may not take, he doesn't have much ground to stand on in this case, since his contract had expired and ABC held the options for future episodes. [Edited 6/9/07 7:16am] That's EXACTLY how it was reported the first time. Thanks Huey. | |
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As for the termination of Isaiah, THAT was the decision on the ABC Network. They wanted to make a statement about the damage of racial/sexual slurs at a place of business, and they did it. | |
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TonyVanDam said: vainandy said: I'm glad he was fired. That "going to therapy" bullshit was the silliest shit I ever heard. You're either an asshole or your not. No amount of therapy is going to change that. That's like thinking a therapist is going to change a Klan member.
Is this applying that it's impossible for people to change or repent from their simple/dumb mistakes?!? EDIT: A thread in itself. Here's that new thread: http://www.prince.org/msg/105/230452 | |
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TonyVanDam said: As for the termination of Isaiah, THAT was the decision on the ABC Network. They wanted to make a statement about the damage of racial/sexual slurs at a place of business, and they did it.
Or maybe they were just sick of him - he's a fucking actor, MAYBE he was dramatic & irritating a lot of the time & folks had their fill (in addition to creating this mess)... I think it shows that if you value your cush job, don't make a bunch of unneccessary waves. They opted not to renew his contract - there was nothing to terminate. Maybe I'm not getting it but I don't see this as him being "fired"... | |
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madartista said: CalhounSq said: I may not have seen the whole thing but he didn't seem prompted to say anything - it looked (to me) like Shondra (the producer) was @ the mic asnwering questions & he just kinda popped in & said this. But I only saw edited reports, I could be missing a piece of the story. Even if he was asked it's silly of him to have repeated the very slur that caused the controversy... his answer was in response to a reporter's question. A reporters question to SHONDRA, not to him - that's why I say it was unprompted... On topic, yes, but no one was speaking to HIM & he interjected w/ some bullshit... | |
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CalhounSq said: TonyVanDam said: As for the termination of Isaiah, THAT was the decision on the ABC Network. They wanted to make a statement about the damage of racial/sexual slurs at a place of business, and they did it.
Or maybe they were just sick of him - he's a fucking actor, MAYBE he was dramatic & irritating a lot of the time & folks had their fill (in addition to creating this mess)... I think it shows that if you value your cush job, don't make a bunch of unneccessary waves. They opted not to renew his contract - there was nothing to terminate. Maybe I'm not getting it but I don't see this as him being "fired"... Actually, you're right. Isaiah was laid-off. | |
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But was this more of a wait and see how the public votes kinda thing? | |
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Imus was let go for essentially causing the same kind of uproar. The sponsors are what matter to the networks.... it's possible they requested he not be renewed, VOTE....EARLY | |
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PANDURITO said: So he said faggot during an argument, later apologized and months later he's fired.
Whatever! Well, seeing as the incident happened on the job, and assuming the same rules apply to a TV set as they would every other workplace, I'm surprised as hell he wasn't fired sooner. Even in the heat of an argument, using a slur against a co-worker is grounds for termination. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Rhondab said: lazycrockett said: well look what happens when you say "nappyheaded". an employer can fire for various reasons...calling a group of young women nappyheaded hoes or another person the "f" word. If you were on your job and called another employee, a client, or customer either one of those names, you too maybe fired. Life lesson for him. I'm with you Cal, that brother is fine but what an idiot. Hell, I would watch Love Jones just for him. Well, crap. You beat me to it. I really should've read the thread beofre posting, eh? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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I thought he was going to that spin off show? I really like spicy food. I mostly put Jalapenos on a lot of my food.
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Xagain said: I personally think the right to say whatever you want is more valuable than the idea that everyone has the right to live in a free society without being offended.
And I don't think celebrities are such wonderful people that when they're assholes they should have to apologize the entire world for it. So what if he did call somebody whatever? I don't know him personally and don't pretend to. I'm gay, but maybe in the same situation I'd have called the guy a fag, too. And if I apologized to anyone, it would have been to THAT guy, not to the whole friggin' world. God help me on the day I get offended because of something some dumbfuck actor says. Or demand an apology for something that wasn't even said to or about me. It's better than holding people publicly responsible for private converstations. You have to be a little thicker skinned than that to live in a free society. The point is not that he said it, the point is that he said it to a co-worker while he was at work. Could any of us do the same without, if not being fired, reprimanded in some way? No. And neither should he. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: PANDURITO said: So he said faggot during an argument, later apologized and months later he's fired.
Whatever! Well, seeing as the incident happened on the job, and assuming the same rules apply to a TV set as they would every other workplace, I'm surprised as hell he wasn't fired sooner. See we somehow agree? | |
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meow85 said: The point is not that he said it, the point is that he said it to a co-worker while he was at work. Could any of us do the same without, if not being fired, reprimanded in some way? No. And neither should he.
If it happened like I understood, I can assure you he wouldn't be fired here. (You don't fire someone for being bad mannered) 1) He's talking to another actor about TR being late and refers to him as that faggot. Wrong! But if anything I'd have told him so "Hey, will you please not call him that?" 2) Months later some journalists ask about it. "No, I didn't call TR a faggot" And everybody goes "He's said it again!" What are we? Kids? Miss teacher, miss teacher, Isaiah said poo and fart Twice!!!! | |
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PANDURITO said: meow85 said: The point is not that he said it, the point is that he said it to a co-worker while he was at work. Could any of us do the same without, if not being fired, reprimanded in some way? No. And neither should he.
If it happened like I understood, I can assure you he wouldn't be fired here. (You don't fire someone for being bad mannered) 1) He's talking to another actor about TR being late and refers to him as that faggot. Wrong! But if anything I'd have told him so "Hey, will you please not call him that?" 2) Months later some journalists ask about it. "No, I didn't call TR a faggot" And everybody goes "He's said it again!" What are we? Kids? Miss teacher, miss teacher, Isaiah said poo and fart Twice!!!! The man used a slur, at work, within earshot of co-workers. That's not just being ill-mannered, that's grounds for being fired. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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PANDURITO said: meow85 said: The point is not that he said it, the point is that he said it to a co-worker while he was at work. Could any of us do the same without, if not being fired, reprimanded in some way? No. And neither should he.
If it happened like I understood, I can assure you he wouldn't be fired here. (You don't fire someone for being bad mannered) 1) He's talking to another actor about TR being late and refers to him as that faggot. Wrong! But if anything I'd have told him so "Hey, will you please not call him that?" 2) Months later some journalists ask about it. "No, I didn't call TR a faggot" And everybody goes "He's said it again!" What are we? Kids? Miss teacher, miss teacher, Isaiah said poo and fart Twice!!!! There are things we all do and say that in hindsight are a bad idea and there are terms that people of differing backgrounds and orientations find offensive. I mean i find the term "breeder" offensive because it insinuates all i wanna do is propogate my seed! But sure as hell no-one would get fired for using it in my presence. | |
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PANDURITO said: meow85 said: The point is not that he said it, the point is that he said it to a co-worker while he was at work. Could any of us do the same without, if not being fired, reprimanded in some way? No. And neither should he.
If it happened like I understood, I can assure you he wouldn't be fired here. (You don't fire someone for being bad mannered) 1) He's talking to another actor about TR being late and refers to him as that faggot. Wrong! But if anything I'd have told him so "Hey, will you please not call him that?" 2) Months later some journalists ask about it. "No, I didn't call TR a faggot" And everybody goes "He's said it again!" What are we? Kids? Miss teacher, miss teacher, Isaiah said poo and fart Twice!!!! Like I said on the previous page, Isaiah pick a bad time to be ghetto. | |
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TonyVanDam said: PANDURITO said: If it happened like I understood, I can assure you he wouldn't be fired here. (You don't fire someone for being bad mannered) 1) He's talking to another actor about TR being late and refers to him as that faggot. Wrong! But if anything I'd have told him so "Hey, will you please not call him that?" 2) Months later some journalists ask about it. "No, I didn't call TR a faggot" And everybody goes "He's said it again!" What are we? Kids? Miss teacher, miss teacher, Isaiah said poo and fart Twice!!!! Like I said on the previous page, Isaiah pick a bad time to be ghetto. Is there a right time to be ghetto? The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Paradisekiss03 said: I thought he was going to that spin off show?
No, the Addison character has the spinoff. There was never plans for him to turn up elsewhere... | |
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CalhounSq said: Paradisekiss03 said: I thought he was going to that spin off show?
No, the Addison character has the spinoff. There was never plans for him to turn up elsewhere... Which looks promising, though I'm going to be watching if for Amy(Judging Amy) cause i dig her. The problem with the 2 hour episode was it was so obviously sliced together with the Grey's Anatomy. Both episodes suffered cause of really bad editing. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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lazycrockett said: CalhounSq said: No, the Addison character has the spinoff. There was never plans for him to turn up elsewhere... Which looks promising, though I'm going to be watching if for Amy(Judging Amy) cause i dig her. The problem with the 2 hour episode was it was so obviously sliced together with the Grey's Anatomy. Both episodes suffered cause of really bad editing. I wasn't diggin' it at first but by the end of the episode the idea grew on me - I love both Amy & Taye... I think I was just resisting change to my favorite series, but apparently things will never be the same So it'll be good for the Addison character, especially since they haven't given her jack shit to do lately but get rejected by Carev (sp?)... | |
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