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Reply #30 posted 09/23/02 9:38am

applekisses

Kitty Litter Cake

Serving Size: 24

Notes:
This is a fun cake! It might look gross, but it does taste good!

Ingredients:
1 (18 oz.) box spice or german chocolate cake mix
1 (18 oz.) box white cake mix
1 pkg. white sandwich cookies
1 large box vanilla instant pudding mix
12 small tootsie rolls
1 litter box (preferably a NEW one!)
1 plastic scoop
green food coloring

Preparation:
Prepare cake mixes and bake according to directions (any size pans). Prepare pudding mix and chill until ready to assemble. Crumble white sandwich cookies in small batches in blender, they tend to stick, so scrape often. Set aside all but about 1/4 cup. To the 1/4 cup cookie crumbs, add a few drops green food coloring and mix using a fork or shake in a jar.
When cakes are cooled to room temperature, crumble into a large bowl. Toss with half the remaining white cookie crumbs and the chilled pudding. You probably won't need all of the pudding, mix with the cake and "feel" it, you don't want it soggy, just moist; gently combine. Put mixture into clean litter box.

Put three unwrapped Tootsie rolls in a microwave safe dish and heat until soft and pliable. Shape ends so they are no longer blunt, curving slightly. Repeat with 3 more Tootsie rolls and bury in mixture. Sprinkle the other half of cookie crumbs over top. Scatter the green cookie crumbs lightly over the top, this is supposed to look like the chlorophyll in kitty litter. Heat remaining Tootsie Rolls, three at a time in the microwave until almost melted. Scrape them on top of the cake and sprinkle with cookie crumbs. Place the box on a newspaper and sprinkle a few of the cookie crumbs around. Serve with a new pooper scooper.
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Reply #31 posted 09/23/02 9:42am

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lovemachine said:

The lovemachine was never allowed to go trick-or-treating as a child due to the fact that someone robbed my candy when I was a baby and my mother had taken me out trick-or-treating for the first time.

So every year on Halloween we would hide in the house with all the lights out so we wouldn't have to hand out candy.

It was quite sad. cry



I think that is about the SADDEST thing I've ever heard! Seriously!

Halloween is my favorite holiday! I grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis that calls itself the Halloween capital of the world. Every year we had 2 parades to celebrate it. One was during the day of Halloween where all the children in all the elementary schools in the city would dress up in costumes and walk down main street. We always had a party in class before it and would get lots of candy. The second parade would take place the Saturday before, or after and was a real parade w/floats, marching bands, etc.

Halloween remains about the only holiday I truly celebrate. I can't decide what I'm gonna dress up as this year though. I'm thinking either Emily Strange or Kelly Osbourne...
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Reply #32 posted 09/23/02 9:42am

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Every single day is the Devil's day!

Hail the dark prince...
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Reply #33 posted 09/23/02 9:46am

applekisses

IceNine said:

Every single day is the Devil's day!

Hail the dark prince...


lol

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Reply #34 posted 09/23/02 9:51am

CarrieLee

This thread is ridiculous! Dress up your kids and take them trick or treating for christs sakes. I think the ones who weren't allowed to are the ones who are fucked up! Take Neptoones for example!!! lol lol

Great recipe Apples!!!
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Reply #35 posted 09/23/02 9:54am

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CarrieLee said:

This thread is ridiculous! Dress up your kids and take them trick or treating for christs sakes. I think the ones who weren't allowed to are the ones who are fucked up! Take Neptoones for example!!! lol lol


woot!
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Reply #36 posted 09/23/02 9:54am

applekisses

CarrieLee said:

This thread is ridiculous! Dress up your kids and take them trick or treating for christs sakes. I think the ones who weren't allowed to are the ones who are fucked up! Take Neptoones for example!!! lol lol

Great recipe Apples!!!


Thanks lol I haven't made it yet...if anyone tries it, please let me know! smile This reminds me, I'm putting up my halloween decorations today (I'm so excited!)
I wonder if the dark prince gives out prizes for the best holiday display...
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Reply #37 posted 09/23/02 11:03am

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CarrieMpls said:

lovemachine said:

The lovemachine was never allowed to go trick-or-treating as a child due to the fact that someone robbed my candy when I was a baby and my mother had taken me out trick-or-treating for the first time.

So every year on Halloween we would hide in the house with all the lights out so we wouldn't have to hand out candy.

It was quite sad. cry



I think that is about the SADDEST thing I've ever heard! Seriously!

Halloween is my favorite holiday! I grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis that calls itself the Halloween capital of the world. Every year we had 2 parades to celebrate it. One was during the day of Halloween where all the children in all the elementary schools in the city would dress up in costumes and walk down main street. We always had a party in class before it and would get lots of candy. The second parade would take place the Saturday before, or after and was a real parade w/floats, marching bands, etc.

Halloween remains about the only holiday I truly celebrate. I can't decide what I'm gonna dress up as this year though. I'm thinking either Emily Strange or Kelly Osbourne...



Yes it was very sad at the time and I used to dread Halloween. I like to dress up now, but sometimes I forget to prepare a costume. For the record the dog always wears a costume.

Also, I now know where you grew up Carrie smile ...and it begins with an "A"
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Reply #38 posted 09/23/02 11:06am

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lovemachine said:



Also, I now know where you grew up Carrie smile ...and it begins with an "A"


Dammit! And I was trying to be cryptic! smile
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Reply #39 posted 09/23/02 12:35pm

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Soapstone said:

I didn’t realise how big Halloween was until I lived in the states and just like any foreign tradition it struck me as strange. In the standard American way (and I don’t mean this as offensive) it felt like this little holyday (it was holy for the Druids - don’t forget that Good (angel) without Evil (evillol) is just normal) had been blown out of all proportion and provided a stopgap reason to celebrate between the end of the summer and Thanksgiving. Almost without realising it had become a national institution before it was really understood. Now it is being deconstructed as Evil, like you have just realised that that is what is about – crazy.

Celebrating Halloween as a Christian is just like celebrating Christmas as an agnostic or atheist. People do it simply because it’s fun. Let the minority get their kicks from it as a true Pagan festival while everybody else dresses up and eats candy (sweets).

To continue, while I was in the US, I lived in New Mexico and the American Mexicans celebrate the Day of the Dead at this time. Kicks the arse out of Halloween in its freakiness, but it was a celebration of lives gone before. The Italians do the same thing and celebrate and mourn the lives of relatives already passed. It seems to me that the druids probably did exactly the same thing that has been twisted over the years into something quite sinister.


SINISTER?!? What the heck?! rolleyes
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Reply #40 posted 09/23/02 12:57pm

Aerogram

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Oh yes... it is the devil's day. Only on that pagan occasion do men done shoes created by Satan and desacrate their virility.
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Reply #41 posted 09/23/02 6:44pm

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VinaBlue said:

Samhain, and any other pagan practices have nothing to do with the "devil". The devil is something that was created by Christians to scare people into becoming Christian, or at least have a good reason to kill people who were pagan. Samhain has a lot more in common with Day of the Dead than any satanic ritual.

Here are some links


http://www.starcraftsob.c...hain.shtml

Samhain (Halloween)
October 31st (traditional) / November 6th (zodiacal)

Many Wiccans consider Samhain, or Halloween, to be the beginning of the New Year, and in a sense, they are right, because as the death or end of a cycle, it is also the beginning. The seeds fall to Earth from the dying plant, there to lie in wait for new life to stir within. The God passes into the invisible world, there to become the seed of his own rebirth as the Son of the Mother Goddess at Yule.

With Samhain, we are again at the ending that becomes the seeds of the new beginning. The Dark Lord reigns in the invisible world, called the Summerland, where he greets the souls that are passing out of this world, and assists the souls who are reincarnating. The veil between the worlds is thin, and contact with those from the other side may be made. We honor loved ones who have passed beyond, and we honor death and change, in the sure knowledge that the Wheel keeps turning, and all that die shall be reborn!



http://www.starcraftsob.c...lore.shtml

Samhain (Halloween) Lore
from Kathryn Campbell

To the ancient Celts, Samhain marked the end of summer and the beginning of winter, with the day after Samhain being the first day of the Celtic New Year. This was determined because the sun was at it's lowest point on the horizon as measured by the ancient standing stones of Ireland and Britain. For this reason, modern witches commonly view Samhain as the witches New Year.

The Crone aspect of the Goddess is honored at this time. Her's is the cauldron of life, death and rebirth through which we all must pass. The Crone was always held in high esteem as a woman of power whose wisdom came from age and experience.

Samhain is a time to also honor our Ancestors, the Old Ones, the Mighty Dead. The Celts believed strongly in reincarnation and that they were reborn into the same tribe. Feasts for the dead were prepared and fresh meat was always part of the sabbat feast. The Celts were predominately a herding culture who slaughtered much of their livestock before Samhain rather than attempt to feed them through the long harsh winter. Only the strongest "cattle" were spared for they were most likely to make it through the dark time to reproduce in "calfing" season. This slaughter of the livestock was the main part of the third and final harvest.

The veil between the worlds was considered to be at it's thinest at Samhain, allowing the living and the dead to pass between the worlds unobstucted. The Dark Lord was also believed to pass into the land of the dead at Samhain, guiding the souls of the beloved dead to a place of peace. On this night, the divine child of promise is concieved.


I (L) U gyrl.

Halloween is my fav, and you just said all the reasons why.
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Reply #42 posted 09/23/02 6:55pm

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AaronForever said:

oh, and uh, Christmas and Easter originate from a pagan holidays too. does she celebrate them?


THANK YOU Aaron for pointing that out...I was hoping someone had brought it up...if only good "God fearing christians" ever took the time to find out where the idea for the Xmas tree came from...

Anyways, I too come from the "halloween capital of the world" (We Rock Carrie!) SO, I've always particularly enjoyed that day.

now, if only I could think up a damn costume for this year!
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Reply #43 posted 09/23/02 7:10pm

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endorphin74 said:

AaronForever said:

oh, and uh, Christmas and Easter originate from a pagan holidays too. does she celebrate them?


THANK YOU Aaron for pointing that out...I was hoping someone had brought it up...if only good "God fearing christians" ever took the time to find out where the idea for the Xmas tree came from...

Anyways, I too come from the "halloween capital of the world" (We Rock Carrie!) SO, I've always particularly enjoyed that day.

now, if only I could think up a damn costume for this year!

me too !!! Ihave no idea what to go as this year !!
HELP!!!
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Reply #44 posted 09/24/02 9:45am

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Okay, I'm a Christian, and I love me some Halloween! Screw any Satanic conotations (and, as Vina already pointed out, they aren't really valid). I really don't get people who get hung up on where a holiday comes from. What does it mean TO YOU is what is important. If all these fundamentalist types would just chill, then the whole pagan history would eventually fade into obscurity.

For me, Halloween is a time to dress up, have a party, and hand out candy to kids. It is a time for watching scary movies, going to haunted houses, and getting creative with your costuming. In many ways, it could be viewed as thumbing your nose at evil, mocking it by creating artificial scares. Dress up as something that scares you, thereby taking its power away to create fear. Sounds to me like something that subverts Satan's plans to make humanity fear him, and that can't be a bad thing.

Ultimately, YOU are the one who gives any symbol or Holiday any meaning. If you choose to view Halloween as Satanic, then you have given the Devil his very own day. Personally, I choose to make it a day of fun.
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #45 posted 09/25/02 7:17am

TheGillman

I'm thinking about going as a human for Halloween.
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Reply #46 posted 09/25/02 7:18am

CarrieLee

TheGillman said:

I'm thinking about going as a human for Halloween.



Ahhh my favorite!!! I will hunt you down and egg you!!
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Reply #47 posted 09/25/02 7:39am

TheGillman

CarrieLee said:

TheGillman said:

I'm thinking about going as a human for Halloween.



Ahhh my favorite!!! I will hunt you down and egg you!!


Well, you see, whenever I come to town any other day of the year, you humans do that anyway. Maybe I should just appear as my own aquatic self? you humans would probably mistake me for a costume. Of course, after I devoured a few small children and household pets, the egging would probably begin again! sad
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Reply #48 posted 09/25/02 3:07pm

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I know nobody asked me my opinion but here it is.

It seems to me that people have become so freaked out about Halloween like they have a lot of other things. For example, putting helmits on their kids for riding their bikes. Kids are kids, leave them alone and let them play. If all of a sudden some kid smashes his head on the pavement because he doesn't have a helmit on, then watch him get up (with a knot and a strawberry) and be more careful when he's riding his bike.

My parents went through my candy and through the opened packages and the fruit (and anything else that looked weird) in the garbage. Then they ate all of the snickers and I had candy for a week.

I always loved the rich neihborhoods because they gave out better candy and sometimes even money.

When "Christians" or any religious belief system makes your kids different from the other kids, it's not good. Install a belief system but don't make them freaks amongst the other kids.
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Reply #49 posted 09/26/02 4:46pm

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So it seems that everyone in the Org is in agreement that Halloween is benign, eh?

Here's a question...now that Prince is a JW...will HE stop his future children from celebrating "candy day"?
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #50 posted 09/26/02 4:48pm

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PurpleJedi said:

So it seems that everyone in the Org is in agreement that Halloween is benign, eh?

Here's a question...now that Prince is a JW...will HE stop his future children from celebrating "candy day"?



Prince's children will not have one day of fun in their lives. People that were really wild in their youth are really strict as parents. The mild-mannered, well controlled youth go on to be loosey-goosey parents.
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Reply #51 posted 09/26/02 4:51pm

TRON

How was Easter ever a pagan holiday to begin with? Apparently I missed something.
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Reply #52 posted 09/26/02 4:52pm

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TRON said:

How was Easter ever a pagan holiday to begin with? Apparently I missed something.



it evolved from various pagan springtime fertility festivals. where do you think the eggs and the rabbits come from wink
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Reply #53 posted 09/26/02 4:58pm

TRON

Well that part of it yes. Most Christian holidays have become a farse. They've probably incorporated elements of the pagan tradition into Easter but the original impetus for celebrating THAT day wasn't pagan.
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Reply #54 posted 09/26/02 5:56pm

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TRON said:

Well that part of it yes. Most Christian holidays have become a farse. They've probably incorporated elements of the pagan tradition into Easter but the original impetus for celebrating THAT day wasn't pagan.



i believe it was. IIRC from my first stab at college, the holiday wasn't celebrated by Christians until they started converting pagans. the pagans wanted something out of it (they loooved to partay), so they started incorporating holidays like Easter and Christmas into Christianity to make it more fun.
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Reply #55 posted 09/26/02 7:23pm

TRON

know it all. wink
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Reply #56 posted 09/26/02 7:46pm

endorphin74

TRON said:

Well that part of it yes. Most Christian holidays have become a farse. They've probably incorporated elements of the pagan tradition into Easter but the original impetus for celebrating THAT day wasn't pagan.


Some stuff I found on the net (gotta love google!)
It definately has a bias in it, but contains a lot of interesting details. This is long, so if you don't have time, just scroll on by! biggrin


ps...for an interesting read on background of Christianity taking over Pagan traditions in the quest for conversion, check out Tom Robbins' "Jitterbug Perfume." It's fictional but he relies very heavily on facts to tell the story...

Adopting Paganism

Early first century Christian practices revolved around the Jewish Passover, which is the tradition of the Bible when the word pascha is correctly translated as Passover. However, a mix between the will of emperors and the resistance of the people to give up their traditions and nature-worship for foreign anti-natural beliefs came to sway Judeo-Christianity towards the adoption of Easter.

The name Easter comes from an ancient European goddess of the dawn called Eostre by the Anglo-Saxons and Ostara by the Germanic peoples. She is also known as Eostra, Eostrae, Eostar, Eastre, Easter, Estre, Eástre, and Austra by various European peoples. Her name means "movement towards the rising sun" and is related to the Indo-European root word Aus which means "to shine". The English words estrus and estrogen are also derived from her name. She was considered the goddess of the growing light and spring, associated with fertility and celebrated with a festival of rebirth. One story has her entertaining children by performing a trick that changed her pet bird into a rabbit. This rabbit then laid colored eggs that she gave to the children. Given the history of these ideas which date back to at least 2000 years before the Christian era, it should be no surprise that the original symbols and practices of Easter persist today, just as our ancestors once celebrated them.

When Judeo-Christian monks worked mendaciously to gain followers by destroying pagan history and defaming the elder gods as demons, they had no weapons to deface the innocence of Eostre. Instead, they adopted her holiday and attempted to graft their values onto it.

Fertility Brings Life

The 40 days of Lent can be traced to worship of the Babylonian fertility god Tammuz, as well as similar traditions in Egypt (Osiris), Syria (Adonis). There are answers hidden in the Biblical dislike for Tammuz:
So He brought me to the door of the north gate of the Lord's house; and to my dismay, women were sitting there weeping for Tammuz.- Ezekial 8:14

Each year, Tammuz's death and resurrection were celebrated, despite the condemnation of the Judeo-Christian God. Tammuz's wife was the goddess Ishtar who was worshiped in groves made of asherah which are trees trunks, a phallic symbol, that were raised on a hilltop and represented life. Though Judeo-Christians destroyed all of the pagan holy grounds, often placing their churches on top of them and cutting down all nearby trees, the beliefs of the people did not immediately change. Even today, the lily remains a popular part of the Easter celebration, but its origins are that of a phallic symbol which represents the reproductive organs.

The Vernal Equinox

Most people are aware that the day of Easter moves each year, but few people remember the reason for this or the method of its calculation. When we celebrate Easter, it is the first Sunday after the first Vernal Equinox fullmoon. The Vernal Equinox signifies the astronomical arrival of spring and was considered the time to celebrate the rebirth and renewal as nature resurrects itself from the death it suffered in winter. The Sun that died at Yule is reborn!

It is outside of the scope of this article, but the Winter Solstice is the basis of Christmas, as well as the Christmas tree. There is truly little attributed to Judeo-Christianity that is original, but to be fair it is difficult to conquer people sufficiently to destroy their traditions and instinctual feelings. This must be performed gradually by first coopting the traditions, slowly turning them against the spirit of the people, and then cutting the people off from their roots so they remain separated from their natural instincts and awareness of what is right
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Reply #57 posted 09/26/02 7:49pm

endorphin74

JediMaster said:

Ultimately, YOU are the one who gives any symbol or Holiday any meaning. If you choose to view Halloween as Satanic, then you have given the Devil his very own day. Personally, I choose to make it a day of fun.


I like all of what you had to say, but really liked this. Me, I'm a non-christian that loves Christmastime, go figure...Holidays are what you make them...

ps...TRON, didn't you already know that Aaron knows all?
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Reply #58 posted 09/26/02 8:00pm

TRON

endorphin74 said:
ps...TRON, didn't you already know that Aaron knows all?


not even close. I've already shown him a thing or two. wink

Thanks for the read.
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Reply #59 posted 09/26/02 8:29pm

Moonbeam

Halloween is my least favorite holiday, but I'm not a fan of how most holidays are celebrated anyway.
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