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I have been with the same man for 22 yrs and he never just lays there naked So though I can understand what you are saying I can not really relate He and I are very much equal in bed We talk and share alot about our sex life and sex in general, I think that helps a lot. I can not even say I have felt bored  | |
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evenstar3 said: xplnyrslf said: .....OK. (I don't consider that to be a compromise as it's mutually benefical.) Just, men need to think about coming up with their own ideas on stimulating women outside of touching. some men already do Phone sex doesn't cut it..... | |
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xplnyrslf said: evenstar3 said: some men already do Phone sex doesn't cut it..... Ouch!  I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F.  | |
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Lothan said: evenstar3 said: some men already do How about if the SO shows up as a fireman wanting to put out my fire???? There. I said it.....only I'd want a real fireman.....(just kidding)!!!and I mean it! | |
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REDFEATHERS said: xplnyrslf said: Phone sex doesn't cut it..... Ouch! i was speaking in general. 
if you want something from your parter, ask them, or at least hint about it. | |
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evenstar3 said: REDFEATHERS said: Ouch! i was speaking in general.
if you want something from your parter, ask them, or at least hint about it. No, don't hint or ask....tell. Works for me. | |
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evenstar3 said: xplnyrslf said: Have you ever watched a porn video where the man is doing everything and the woman just lays there until penetration???? nope. anyhow...women need and enjoy sex just as much, we just need to catch up on the "equal opportunity" part, (ie men do more than lie there naked.) maybe you should talk to your husband about it? He has a hell of alot more experience than I do. That's why I've concluded men tend to behave this way..... I exaggerated the "lying there naked" part... Anyhow. I'm talking about preliminary efforts..... | |
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JustErin said: evenstar3 said: i was speaking in general.
if you want something from your parter, ask them, or at least hint about it. No, don't hint or ask....tell. Works for me. or that!  | |
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JustErin said: xplnyrslf said: Have you ever watched a porn video where the man is doing everything and the woman just lays there until penetration???? nope. anyhow...women need and enjoy sex just as much, we just need to catch up on the "equal opportunity" part, (ie men do more than lie there naked.) Are you kidding me? There are tons of vids like that. org note me.....is this a necrophelia vid? | |
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evenstar3 said: JustErin said: No, don't hint or ask....tell. Works for me. or that! Or I would...  I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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xplnyrslf said: heartbeatocean said: Is it because the culture heavily focuses and feeds the male fantasy but dismisses the female fantasy and this translates into private interactions in the bedroom and all the attending expectations around it? i.e. the assumption that men enjoy and need sex more than women, and also there's the reality that men are selfish creatures Have you ever watched a porn video where the man is doing everything and the woman just lays there until penetration???? nope. anyhow...women need and enjoy sex just as much, we just need to catch up on the "equal opportunity" part, (ie men do more than lie there naked.) My porn viewing experience is...shall we say, limited? | |
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REDFEATHERS said: evenstar3 said: or that! Or I would... | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Exactly. I just think I'm not understanding this thread.
How about if the SO shows up as a fireman wanting to put out my fire???? There. I said it.....only I'd want a real fireman.....(just kidding)!!!and I mean it! 
GO FOR IT! | |
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evenstar3 said: REDFEATHERS said: Ouch! i was speaking in general.
if you want something from your parter, ask them, or at least hint about it. Sigh!! It's NOT about wanting more from my partner. The topic is about: Women just so happen to be responsible for the enthusiasm. Tell me what your partner does with MORE effort? I agree, with women, it's easy.....we happen to be creative, eager, and adventuresome. | |
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Where'd Ace go??? | |
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xplnyrslf said: evenstar3 said: i was speaking in general.
if you want something from your parter, ask them, or at least hint about it. Sigh!! It's NOT about wanting more from my partner. The topic is about: Women just so happen to be responsible for the enthusiasm. Tell me what your partner does with MORE effort? I agree, with women, it's easy.....we happen to be creative, eager, and adventuresome. Oh I know lots of men who are creative, eager, and adventuresome 
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xplnyrslf said: evenstar3 said: i was speaking in general.
if you want something from your parter, ask them, or at least hint about it. Sigh!! It's NOT about wanting more from my partner. The topic is about: Women just so happen to be responsible for the enthusiasm. Tell me what your partner does with MORE effort? I agree, with women, it's easy.....we happen to be creative, eager, and adventuresome. in my experience the enthusiasm has always been equal, so i dunno. | |
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maybe this will help? 
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REDFEATHERS said: maybe this will help?
leave it on his pillow. | |
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evenstar3 said: REDFEATHERS said: maybe this will help?
leave it on his pillow.  I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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evenstar3 said: REDFEATHERS said: maybe this will help?
leave it on his pillow. Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? | |
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xplnyrslf said: evenstar3 said: leave it on his pillow. Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? But I dont get it.. alot of men are highly imaginative and experimental in that way.. unless I have just been EXTREMELY lucky.. I think you arent being fair to men I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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xplnyrslf said: evenstar3 said: leave it on his pillow. Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? It's not the lack of interest, it's keeping it exciting By the way....3-somes (in the vids) mostly involve two women and one man.... there you have it!!! | |
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xplnyrslf said: evenstar3 said: leave it on his pillow. Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? Is this what your girlfriends are telling you? Haven't you been with the same man for some years now? Take it from skanks like us that are out there meeting men, dating men, screwing men....it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is. | |
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REDFEATHERS said: xplnyrslf said: Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? But I dont get it.. alot of men are highly imaginative and experimental in that way.. unless I have just been EXTREMELY lucky.. I think you arent being fair to men explain..... | |
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xplnyrslf said: xplnyrslf said: Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? It's not the lack of interest, it's keeping it exciting By the way....3-somes (in the vids) mostly involve two women and one man.... there you have it!!! Well I have had one with two men.. I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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xplnyrslf said: xplnyrslf said: Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? It's not the lack of interest, it's keeping it exciting By the way....3-somes (in the vids) mostly involve two women and one man.... there you have it!!! Actually, I'd say that a woman getting double teamed by two guys is waaaaay more common in videos these days. | |
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xplnyrslf said: REDFEATHERS said: But I dont get it.. alot of men are highly imaginative and experimental in that way.. unless I have just been EXTREMELY lucky.. I think you arent being fair to men explain..... I am not going to go into details, thats highly personal.. you are saying sex is crap cos men dont do shit and women have to do all the work.. I am saying thats so not true you explain how "it's easy.....we happen to be creative, eager, and adventuresome." [Edited 6/1/07 23:08pm] I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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JustErin said: xplnyrslf said: By the way....3-somes (in the vids) mostly involve two women and one man.... there you have it!!! Actually, I'd say that a woman getting double teamed by two guys is waaaaay more common in videos these days. Definitely I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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JustErin said: xplnyrslf said: Nope...He could write the book.....(I've never done 3-somes and he's done many) Look, men simply don't put out the effort women do....what? all you need to do is be naked?? Is this what your girlfriends are telling you? Haven't you been with the same man for some years now? Take it from skanks like us that are out there meeting men, dating men, screwing men....it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think it is. This is a perspective I have. No girlfriends influenced me. I'd never refer to anyone as a skank. Clearly, my viewpoint is different. I never suggested screwing nor dating men was bad. Logging off and walking the dog. | |
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