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PrintableLothan said: xplnyrslf said: There's a mutual benefit, but the effort is primarily the woman's.  Exactly. Why don't men do the dress-up stuff ??? | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Nope, never have, never will. I don't need sexy clothes to act like a porn star.
Give it 25 years.....  You mean at age 65, I'll be wearing garter belts and bustiers?  | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Nope, never have, never will. I don't need sexy clothes to act like a porn star.
Give it 25 years..... | |
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so wait, guys expect us to absolutely have 'props' in bed?  | |
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Ace said:[quote] xplnyrslf said: My point exactly.....  Who is "THEY" and what do you mean by "Maintaining one's self???"?[/quote] uh...erection time....Sheesh! you cannot be this naive! ACE! ??? | |
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xplnyrslf said: Ace said: I would think that some are and some aren't.  I can also see men who did the equivalent being viewed as "trying too hard".
People pay all kinds of lip service to what they say they want in a partner, but (in reality) a lot of people suffer from the "I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member" mentality and have unrealistic expectations. Too many people taking their cues from movies, TV, songs. More details on this please..... Which part? | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Okay, you say men have this expectation. Isn't it fun for the woman as well? Is she doing something she doesn't want to do? Does she fel sexy in those clothes? Isn't she perpetuating an unreal fantasy?
Exactly. Why don't men do the dress-up stuff ??? Well, from my experience the guys are more than eager to do exactly what it is I like and want to get off. The role-playing is played by both of us (I'm not into playing dress up or acting out little scenarios or anything like that, though. That's not what I mean by role-playing). | |
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heartbeatocean said: xplnyrslf said: Give it 25 years..... You mean at age 65, I'll be wearing garter belts and bustiers? No, you have the inner strength to choose wisely.... non the less.... she has a strong relatable point generally speaking no? | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Okay, you say men have this expectation. Isn't it fun for the woman as well? Is she doing something she doesn't want to do? Does she fel sexy in those clothes? Isn't she perpetuating an unreal fantasy?
Exactly. Why don't men do the dress-up stuff ??? The only thing I have ever remotely wanted a man to wear for me is a pair of tight leather or latex pants. 
Okay, I'm back from my porn fantasy.  | |
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JustErin said: xplnyrslf said: With no props? Just your naked self? The bliss of youth... Ya, no props and silliness like that...no trying to do silly porn moves that look good on camera. It's not like that at all. I just know what I want and like and how to get it, I also pay full attention to what they want and then do it. It's all part of the fun and it's absolutely not about trying to be something that I am not. When you run out of orifices, let me know..... 
It's not about trying to be something you're not. After a few years, you think it might not get boring?? Believe me, it will as any routine does. There has to be variety and the variety happens to be the female efforts. | |
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xplnyrslf said:[quote] Ace said: xplnyrslf said: My point exactly..... Who is "THEY" and what do you mean by "Maintaining one's self???"?[/quote] uh...erection time....Sheesh! you cannot be this naive! ACE! ??? Your wording is confusing. So, you're saying that the only "work" men are doing is keeping it up?  | |
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heartbeatocean said: xplnyrslf said: Give it 25 years..... You mean at age 65, I'll be wearing garter belts and bustiers? 30? I've had them forever. Before they were worn as evening public wear..... | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: heartbeatocean said: You mean at age 65, I'll be wearing garter belts and bustiers? No, you have the inner strength to choose wisely.... non the less.... she has a strong relatable point generally speaking no? Is it because the culture heavily focuses and feeds the male fantasy but dismisses the female fantasy and this translates into private interactions in the bedroom and all the attending expectations around it? i.e. the assumption that men enjoy and need sex more than women, and also there's the reality that men are selfish creatures  | |
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xplnyrslf said: heartbeatocean said: You mean at age 65, I'll be wearing garter belts and bustiers? 30? I've had them forever. Before they were worn as evening public wear..... 
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Lothan said: xplnyrslf said: Give it 25 years..... .....OK. (I don't consider that to be a compromise as it's mutually benefical.) Just, men need to think about coming up with their own ideas on stimulating women outside of touching. | |
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evenstar3 said: so wait, guys expect us to absolutely have 'props' in bed?
NO! They don't expect it, you just "surprise" them every other lovemaking session. | |
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Ace said: xplnyrslf said: More details on this please..... Which part? The trying too hard.... | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Naw, that type of stuff doesn't turn me on and I 'm not compromising that for any man.
.....OK. (I don't consider that to be a compromise as it's mutually benefical.) Just, men need to think about coming up with their own ideas on stimulating women outside of touching. | |
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xplnyrslf said: Lothan said: Naw, that type of stuff doesn't turn me on and I 'm not compromising that for any man.
.....OK. (I don't consider that to be a compromise as it's mutually benefical.) Just, men need to think about coming up with their own ideas on stimulating women outside of touching. some men already do | |
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JustErin said: xplnyrslf said: Exactly. Why don't men do the dress-up stuff ??? Well, from my experience the guys are more than eager to do exactly what it is I like and want to get off. The role-playing is played by both of us (I'm not into playing dress up or acting out little scenarios or anything like that, though. That's not what I mean by role-playing). what's the longest relationship you've been in??? I'm a talkin' YEARS, decades, centuries..... | |
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evenstar3 said: xplnyrslf said: .....OK. (I don't consider that to be a compromise as it's mutually benefical.) Just, men need to think about coming up with their own ideas on stimulating women outside of touching. some men already do | |
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xplnyrslf said: Ace said: Which part? The trying too hard.... Despite lip service to the contrary...from listening to and observing my female friends, when most women actually get the type of behavior they claim they want from men, they find it a turn-off. The same can be said for men's bitching about women. | |
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Ace said: xplnyrslf said: Who is "THEY" and what do you mean by "Maintaining one's self???"?[/quote] uh...erection time....Sheesh! you cannot be this naive! ACE! ??? Your wording is confusing. So, you're saying that the only "work" men are doing is keeping it up? catching on.... | |
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heartbeatocean said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: No, you have the inner strength to choose wisely.... non the less.... she has a strong relatable point generally speaking no? Is it because the culture heavily focuses and feeds the male fantasy but dismisses the female fantasy and this translates into private interactions in the bedroom and all the attending expectations around it? i.e. the assumption that men enjoy and need sex more than women, and also there's the reality that men are selfish creatures Have you ever watched a porn video where the man is doing everything and the woman just lays there until penetration???? nope. anyhow...women need and enjoy sex just as much, we just need to catch up on the "equal opportunity" part, (ie men do more than lie there naked.) | |
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xplnyrslf said: heartbeatocean said: Is it because the culture heavily focuses and feeds the male fantasy but dismisses the female fantasy and this translates into private interactions in the bedroom and all the attending expectations around it? i.e. the assumption that men enjoy and need sex more than women, and also there's the reality that men are selfish creatures Have you ever watched a porn video where the man is doing everything and the woman just lays there until penetration???? nope. anyhow...women need and enjoy sex just as much, we just need to catch up on the "equal opportunity" part, (ie men do more than lie there naked.) maybe you should talk to your husband about it? | |
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heartbeatocean said: xplnyrslf said: 30? I've had them forever. Before they were worn as evening public wear.....
Well, not the garter belts.....that was under clothing..... | |
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xplnyrslf said: JustErin said: Well, from my experience the guys are more than eager to do exactly what it is I like and want to get off. The role-playing is played by both of us (I'm not into playing dress up or acting out little scenarios or anything like that, though. That's not what I mean by role-playing). what's the longest relationship you've been in??? I'm a talkin' YEARS, decades, centuries..... Longest was 10 years on and off. I just don't do so well in those longterm relationship thingies...or I haven't so far and don't really have plans for anything long term at the moment. But I can't see how I'll stop liking what I like even after decades. I haven't so far. | |
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xplnyrslf said: heartbeatocean said: Is it because the culture heavily focuses and feeds the male fantasy but dismisses the female fantasy and this translates into private interactions in the bedroom and all the attending expectations around it? i.e. the assumption that men enjoy and need sex more than women, and also there's the reality that men are selfish creatures Have you ever watched a porn video where the man is doing everything and the woman just lays there until penetration???? nope. anyhow...women need and enjoy sex just as much, we just need to catch up on the "equal opportunity" part, (ie men do more than lie there naked.) Are you kidding me? There are tons of vids like that. | |
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Lothan said: xplnyrslf said: .....OK. (I don't consider that to be a compromise as it's mutually benefical.) Just, men need to think about coming up with their own ideas on stimulating women outside of touching. It IS sexy.....men are just too passive....how 'bout a little more effort?? Or am I rewarded by the...outcome? | |
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