I mean, what exactly are THEY doing differently?? Maintaining one's self???

xplnyrslf said:

I don't follow.

Ace said:

My point exactly.....

Why is it men expect women to be porn stars in bed??

They do ?

xplnyrslf said:

Who is "THEY" and what do you mean by "Maintaining one's self???"?

Because they're stupid!

I'm not sure what you mean.

Can you give examples? Like what made you think of this?

Oh for Gods sake.... more often then not ... she is saying we are to be all that and a bag a chips whilst they bring substandard to the table... The balance is offset....

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Thank You!

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

It is?

The guys I have been with have all pretty much been amazing...otherwise I wouldn't have been with them.

JustErin said:

So you interviewed, configured and narrowed down the field but we both know the afore mentioned is honest!

JustErin said:

You know damn well that if you werent so on top of it you would be force fed substandard.....

Ace said:

"They"= men.
"Maintain one's self"=whatever happens with the male anatomy as a result of the woman's efforts.

What? Do I need to go into detail?? Bustiers, sexy lingerie, garter belts, toys, flavored lube, body paint, atmosphere: candles, music.....Men are a little too passive.

Cuz some people put up with it?

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

I dunno what it is tonight, but I am having a hard time following. I'm really tired I guess.

But I'm a fucking pornstar in the sack already by my own doing so I don't really care what their expectations of me are.




Kidding.....kinda.

JustErin said:

I'm talking, after a few years. And I currently have 'ole Ace confused...

Maybe men (mostly young men) expect their women to act like porn stars because they have been exposed to so much of it online during the past ten years or so. When you have a bunch of young people with easy internet access, BitTorrent, and zillions of porn sites with free samples, plus a reluctance by parents to really teach children about sexuality in an honest way, they're going to emulate what they see porn stars doing in bed. When I was in high school, just getting my hands on a Playboy or Penthouse magazine was a big deal, especially with my hormone-raging self. These days, the average 13 year old can download considerably more graphic sexual content then I could ever hoped to see at the same age. Unfortunately, you have a lot of guys having really bad sex because of this, believing that the only way to pleasure a woman is to fuck her like they are drilling for oil. What's really disturbing is that some young women feel as though they have to perform like porn stars in order to attract and keep a man, and they start emulating porn starlets like Jenna Jameson or slutty party girls like the Britney/Lindsay/Paris triumvate.

Mach said:

WELLLL.....i think so.

728huey said:

and that's where a healthy sexual conversation between partners comes in.

728huey said:

If you critique porn movies, who's doing all the play acting??? The 28 year old woman looking like a 16 year old cheerleader/babysitter etc. There's alot of effort by women to entice fantasies of men.
No! Don't tell me none of you female orgers haven't donned sexy clothes for playtime??

xplnyrslf said:

I would think that some are and some aren't. I can also see men who did the equivalent being viewed as "trying too hard".

People pay all kinds of lip service to what they say they want in a partner, but (in reality) a lot of people suffer from the "I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member" mentality and have unrealistic expectations.

Too many people taking their cues from movies, TV, songs.

JustErin said:

With no props? Just your naked self? The bliss of youth...

Lothan said:

There's a mutual benefit, but the effort is primarily the woman's.

@ this thread

xplnyrslf said:

Nope, never have, never will. I don't need sexy clothes to act like a porn star.

xplnyrslf said:

Okay, you say men have this expectation. Isn't it fun for the woman as well? Is she doing something she doesn't want to do? Does she fel sexy in those clothes? Isn't she perpetuating an unreal fantasy?

Ace said:

More details on this please.....
[Edited 6/1/07 21:20pm]

xplnyrslf said:

Ya, no props and silliness like that...no trying to do silly porn moves that look good on camera. It's not like that at all. I just know what I want and like and how to get it, I also pay full attention to what they want and then do it. It's all part of the fun and it's absolutely not about trying to be something that I am not.

Lothan said:

Give it 25 years.....

JustErin said: