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Thread started 05/04/07 2:40pm

DiminutiveRock
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SPIDER-MAN 3 - what did you think?

I thought the first one was the best - but the third is better than the second (IMO) and was pretty entertaining overall. Although, I am biased. I've had a crush on the webbed hero since I was a kid. shrug

Anyone else see it yet? What did you think?
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Reply #1 posted 05/04/07 2:48pm

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not yet.....look forward to seeing it though...taking my 7 year old very soon..

this is a huge month for part three's Shrek and Pirates too

Glad you enjoyed it, i liked Spiderman 1 better than 2 also cool
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Reply #2 posted 05/04/07 2:53pm

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My daughter turns 14 tomorrow and her birthday party is taking her and some of her friends to see SM3.

So I'll let you know after tomorrow if I liked it.


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Reply #3 posted 05/04/07 3:09pm

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I'm not a huge fan of the spiderman movies... but I, for whatever reason, really enjoyed this one, it seemed more solid and emotional. There are some really silly details though....
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Reply #4 posted 05/04/07 3:13pm

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I think it kept it's comic-book feel pretty much - - but yeah, there was some excessive silliness, but it didn't hurt the overall experience.
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Reply #5 posted 05/04/07 6:19pm

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Best of the three , i think.


I liked how the final battle took shape.
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Reply #6 posted 05/04/07 6:41pm

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I was a bit let down by it. I went into it with very high expectations, though. The second one was by far the best. In fact, Spider-man 2 is probably the best superhero movie ever made.


I thought this one was a bit too cluttered, with the Harry, Venom and Sandman stuff. It probably should have stuck to just 2 of them. Plus, I thought it was too long. The first hour could have been tightened up a lot. He should have bonded with the symbiote sooner.


And this one didn't grab me emotionally (both with the Peter/MJ interactions OR the super power fantasy aspect of it) the same way the first 2 (especially the last one) did.
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Reply #7 posted 05/04/07 6:48pm

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Dayspring said:

I was a bit let down by it. I went into it with very high expectations, though. The second one was by far the best. In fact, Spider-man 2 is probably the best superhero movie ever made.


I thought this one was a bit too cluttered, with the Harry, Venom and Sandman stuff. It probably should have stuck to just 2 of them. Plus, I thought it was too long. The first hour could have been tightened up a lot. He should have bonded with the symbiote sooner.


And this one didn't grab me emotionally (both with the Peter/MJ interactions OR the super power fantasy aspect of it) the same way the first 2 (especially the last one) did.




I agree with all of that, and would add the question of why they brought in Gwen Stacy if they weren't going to do the whole Gwen Stacy thing. I think using her death as a way to show Peter the error of the course he was on, it would have been the emotional heart of the movie (and that's on top of the MJ/Harry stuff!).
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Reply #8 posted 05/04/07 7:13pm

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This is the Love Story Spider-Man, it's more soap opera than action movie. There is too much going on, the script and plot are weak and the villains are not that scary. When Peter is taken over by the blob that turns his suit black, I liked him more because he was mean and aggressive, the hero that was willing to kick the criminal's ass after he caught them. One of the main parts of the movie that dragged it down was Peter's Emo Hair dance sequence, he looked more dorky trying to impress the women while strutting around NY, it wasn't that funny. If this was the most expensive movie ever made in modern times, I don't know where they spent the money, The CGI effects were not really special.
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Reply #9 posted 05/04/07 7:20pm

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UncleGrandpa said:

This is the Love Story Spider-Man, it's more soap opera than action movie. There is too much going on, the script and plot are weak and the villains are not that scary. When Peter is taken over by the blob that turns his suit black, I liked him more because he was mean and aggressive, the hero that was willing to kick the criminal's ass after he caught them. One of the main parts of the movie that dragged it down was Peter's Emo Hair dance sequence, he looked more dorky trying to impress the women while strutting around NY, it wasn't that funny. If this was the most expensive movie ever made in modern times, I don't know where they spent the money, The CGI effects were not really special.




I think the point was that he was still supposed to be dorky. If you notice, half the women are into him, and half of them are still rolling their eyes.
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Reply #10 posted 05/04/07 7:29pm

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Tessa said:

UncleGrandpa said:

This is the Love Story Spider-Man, it's more soap opera than action movie. There is too much going on, the script and plot are weak and the villains are not that scary. When Peter is taken over by the blob that turns his suit black, I liked him more because he was mean and aggressive, the hero that was willing to kick the criminal's ass after he caught them. One of the main parts of the movie that dragged it down was Peter's Emo Hair dance sequence, he looked more dorky trying to impress the women while strutting around NY, it wasn't that funny. If this was the most expensive movie ever made in modern times, I don't know where they spent the money, The CGI effects were not really special.




I think the point was that he was still supposed to be dorky. If you notice, half the women are into him, and half of them are still rolling their eyes.


Yeah, I saw that, practically all of them were turned off, with that stank nose look on them. This part was too damn long, one of many parts that could have been edited. The Sandman's introduction was not convincing, I don't know what that machine was supposed to do when he was caught in it, and why wasn't he ruined when he got wet and spread out? There were too many things that happened without even a small explination, me being a casual fan of comics, I don't know if they were strictly faithful to the comics or they added stuff to help non comic nerds out.
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Reply #11 posted 05/04/07 10:14pm

Tonylover

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I thought the first one was the best - but the third is better than the second (IMO) and was pretty entertaining overall. Although, I am biased. I've had a crush on the webbed hero since I was a kid. shrug

Anyone else see it yet? What did you think?



I thought it was very disappointing. The sandman was a pointless and silly character.
And Tobey can't act.

I thought it was going to be Harry vs. Peter throughout the entire movie, which initially made me excited..
Well... i was mistaken.. they decided to take the moral high ground with that plot line.. Ewwww.
The part where Peter's alter ego takes over (whatever you wanna call it) is soooo cheesy, it wasn't even funny.. everyone in the audience was like "What the fuck???"..
Everyone laughed each time he cried...poor Tobey, he really needs some acting lessons.
Kirsten Dunst wasn't to bad, she's a decent actress.. and James Franco is pretty good too.

Overall.. very average!

I can't believe that those films have grossed over 1 billion dollars! That's ridiculous!
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Reply #12 posted 05/05/07 3:57pm

retina

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I'm not a huge fan of the spiderman movies... but I, for whatever reason, really enjoyed this one, it seemed more solid and emotional. There are some really silly details though....


My sentiments exactly. nod

I just finished watching it and I definitely think it was the best of the three. Unlike certain others on this thread I thought the Sandman character was great, and Thomas Haydn Church did a fantastic job portraying him as a complex person. The plot was driven by drama rather than action without interferring with the latter, and that's how a good action movie should be. Overall a pleasant surprise despite certain inevitable silliness and shortcomings that had mostly to do with the fact that it is after all a comic book movie.
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/07 4:53pm

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ufoclub said:

I'm not a huge fan of the spiderman movies... but I, for whatever reason, really enjoyed this one, it seemed more solid and emotional. There are some really silly details though....


My sentiments exactly. nod

I just finished watching it and I definitely think it was the best of the three. Unlike certain others on this thread I thought the Sandman character was great, and Thomas Haydn Church did a fantastic job portraying him as a complex person. The plot was driven by drama rather than action without interferring with the latter, and that's how a good action movie should be. Overall a pleasant surprise despite certain inevitable silliness and shortcomings that had mostly to do with the fact that it is after all a comic book movie.


yep, I've only watched each Spiderman once in the theatre, and didn't get into the other two like I did this one. Could be a lot of factors... but I thought ending a movie with a super-villain apologizing and people all crying was so.... fresh.
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Reply #14 posted 05/07/07 4:56am

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I was a bit let down by it. I went into it with very high expectations, though. The second one was by far the best. In fact, Spider-man 2 is probably the best superhero movie ever made.


I thought this one was a bit too cluttered, with the Harry, Venom and Sandman stuff. It probably should have stuck to just 2 of them. Plus, I thought it was too long. The first hour could have been tightened up a lot. He should have bonded with the symbiote sooner.


And this one didn't grab me emotionally (both with the Peter/MJ interactions OR the super power fantasy aspect of it) the same way the first 2 (especially the last one) did.


I agree.I was disappointed with 'Spider Man 3'.There were too many things going on at the same time and there were too many villians.The storyline is cluttered and un-focused.I couldn't really get into the story at all.I found myself nearly dosing off at certain parts.The Sandman character was pointless and a waste of time.I didn't enjoy those scenes at all.I think Part 2 is the best Spider-Man film of all.


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Reply #15 posted 05/07/07 5:17am

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i'm not a Spiderman fan, i saw the first and second and thought both sucked...namely because I think Tobey Maguire is the most overrated action hero actor ever....he's like a wimp.

anyway, my boyfriend just loves the franchise and he went to the see the movie on Friday and thought it sucked big time. He was highly disappointed and said that the movie was "corny".
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Reply #16 posted 05/07/07 6:45am

SoulAlive

missfee said:

i'm not a Spiderman fan, i saw the first and second and thought both sucked...namely because I think Tobey Maguire is the most overrated action hero actor ever....he's like a wimp.

anyway, my boyfriend just loves the franchise and he went to the see the movie on Friday and thought it sucked big time. He was highly disappointed and said that the movie was "corny".



Your boyfriend is right lol
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Reply #17 posted 05/07/07 6:48am

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to me,the best parts of this film are not even the action sequences (which are surprisingly underwhelming,imo)...I like the scene when Peter is walking down the street,dancing to a James Brown song lol and the scene in the jazz club where he tries to make Mary jealous.
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Reply #18 posted 05/07/07 8:02am

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As a longtime fan of Spidey, I liked this one, but didn't love it.

The film was waaaaayyy too slow, and full of pointless scenes that didn't add to the story at all (Peter's emo dance at the jazz club was beyond dumb). The Peter/MJ love story was focused on way too much, making much of it seem like a boring chick flick. There were too many subplots cluttering up the script, making it seem like they just crammed as much in as they could in case it was the final film. Gwen Stacy just seemed tacked on as an afterthought, and I thought it was a shame to waste such a great character.

That having been said, I loved the effects and action sequences. The final battle was incredible, and Venom's origin was beautifully done. When compared to the first film, it's truly amazing how far the CGI has come. When Spidey was swinging through the city, he seemed much more realistic than he did in the earlier films.

The scenes between Peter & Eddie Brock, Peter & Harry and Peter & Sandman were all wonderfully done. I liked the whole theme of vengeance, forgiveness & redemption that ran throughout. The changes to Eddie Brock/Venom's character made him far more interesting to me, as he seemed to represent what Peter could have become had he not had people like Uncle Ben and Aunt May to teach him right from wrong.

All in all, I felt that this was the weakest installment of the series, but I still enjoyed it. I suspect I'll like it a whole lot more when I see it a second time. I give it a solid B+.
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Reply #19 posted 05/07/07 8:36am

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As a longtime fan of Spidey, I liked this one, but didn't love it.

The film was waaaaayyy too slow, and full of pointless scenes that didn't add to the story at all (Peter's emo dance at the jazz club was beyond dumb). The Peter/MJ love story was focused on way too much, making much of it seem like a boring chick flick. There were too many subplots cluttering up the script, making it seem like they just crammed as much in as they could in case it was the final film. Gwen Stacy just seemed tacked on as an afterthought, and I thought it was a shame to waste such a great character.

That having been said, I loved the effects and action sequences. The final battle was incredible, and Venom's origin was beautifully done. When compared to the first film, it's truly amazing how far the CGI has come. When Spidey was swinging through the city, he seemed much more realistic than he did in the earlier films.

The scenes between Peter & Eddie Brock, Peter & Harry and Peter & Sandman were all wonderfully done. I liked the whole theme of vengeance, forgiveness & redemption that ran throughout. The changes to Eddie Brock/Venom's character made him far more interesting to me, as he seemed to represent what Peter could have become had he not had people like Uncle Ben and Aunt May to teach him right from wrong.

All in all, I felt that this was the weakest installment of the series, but I still enjoyed it. I suspect I'll like it a whole lot more when I see it a second time. I give it a solid B+.


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Reply #20 posted 05/07/07 9:44am

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Disappointing. I really wanted to love this. I thought the second one was the best superhero movie ever. This one.... too many underdeveloped characters and plotlines. It was too long and too slow as well. And they camped it up too much (Peter's Saturday Night Fever walk and the whole scene at the jazz club).

I think it would have been better if the symbiote was something Harry had come across via Oscorp and used on Peter, rather than having it fall from outer space. This way, he could have bonded with the symbiote much sooner (like after the opening battle), and turned darker, culminating in his cockiness killing Gwen Stacy, which would snap him back to reality and then face off against Harry (who would still reform) and Venom (who would have to be MUCH scarier, and we should NOT see Topher's face again after he becomes Venom. there's absolutely nothing sinister about Topher at all and we don't need to be reminded of that fact after the suit is on him).

Although the Sandman effects were some of the coolest stuff, visually, in the movie, the character was completely unnecessary. So was the retcon placing him at the scene of Uncle Ben's death. They should have cut Sandman out of it completely and spent the time and money on developing Venom.

Sandman could have been used for the 4th installment, maybe along with the Lizard (since Connors has appeared in 2 & 3), as a big dumb action movie after this darker stuff with MJ and Harry was out of the way, and the meaty emotional thrust of the trilogy was out of the way.
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Reply #21 posted 05/07/07 10:31am

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First of all I had never seen the fist one or second one. My daughters REALLY wanted to see Spiderman3 this weekend, and considering my husband is out of town on business this week, it was up to Mom to go and take them.
I was prepared to nap for an hour and a half, I was very pleasantly surprised!
I was able to follow the story, enjoy the special effects and I enjoyed Tobey, Kirsten and Ron Howards daughter is simply adorable!! (sorry, I forgot her name)
I am glad I went! I am much more looking foward to seeing Pirates of the Caribbean!! I love to drooool over Johnny Depp!! dancing jig
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Reply #22 posted 05/07/07 10:43am

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$375 million worldwide in less than 7 days. wow.
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Reply #23 posted 05/07/07 10:48am

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The special effects and fight scenes in 3 were the best of all the films. I rewatched 1 and 2 a few days before and you can see the difference, especially in the swinging scenes in the first movie which didn't look as real. Some of 3 was too goofy, most notably the jazz cafe scene (emo-Peter can suddenly play the piano and dance!). Overall I think it was good, but definitely not as good as 2 which I feel is the best superhero movie of all time.
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Reply #24 posted 05/07/07 10:53am

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sextonseven said:

The special effects and fight scenes in 3 were the best of all the films. I rewatched 1 and 2 a few days before and you can see the difference, especially in the swinging scenes in the first movie which didn't look as real. Some of 3 was too goofy, most notably the jazz cafe scene (emo-Peter can suddenly play the piano and dance!). Overall I think it was good, but definitely not as good as 2 which I feel is the best superhero movie of all time.




I thought overall the effects were better, but some of it seemed worse. Specifically the scene with the crane looked like a cartoon.
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Reply #25 posted 05/07/07 11:57am

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I liked it.
I probably would have enjoyed it more if wasn't for that one scene where Peter cried because MJ broke up with him.
During that shot, some one in the near vicinty of where I was seated in the theatre farted in a manner that was so substantally sulfuric in nature , that, when combined with the fact that I don't find Kirsten Dunst all that particularly attractive, I found myself to be quite offended.
Add on top of that,
that one of the suspects to being the culprit may have indeed been one of the two buddies who were in attendance with me at the showing.
I bought a box of Sno-Caps ere the commencement of the movie,
but so that I may enjoy the concession confection without the burden of guilt, I only ate about 1/3 of the box's contents & passed along what remained to Rob, the friend sitting my immediate right. He stated in a way that I interpreted as jokingly " "Ey dude, thanx, man. Tho I probably shouldn't...." then proceded to empty the box of chocolate delectables into his eager, over-sized pie-hole.
The possiblity that I held some fault in helping to set in motion the chain of events that led to this putrid act only added to my disgust & discomfort of what should been a fine evening at the cinema.

Because of all of this,
I feel that
the moral at the film's ending,
"We always a choice to do the right thing"
may have held more of a deeper revelence to me than the rest those in attendance that night.

As I post this, with the hindsight that comes with days passing,
I realize that maybe, just maybe,
that was the lesson that I was to walk away with all along.
What turned out to be a bitter affair,
turned out to be reminder that maybe, just maybe,
their is a Universal Balance, of which we, (myself included) are all a part of.
Maybe, just maybe,
things do happen for a reason.


Maybe,
God does have a plan.

rose
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Reply #26 posted 05/07/07 12:01pm

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Illustrator said:

I liked it.
I probably would have enjoyed it more if wasn't for that one scene where Peter cried because MJ broke up with him.
During that shot, some one in the near vicinty of where I was seated in the theatre farted in a manner that was so substantally sulfuric in nature , that, when combined with the fact that I don't find Kirsten Dunst all that particularly attractive, I found myself to be quite offended.
Add on top of that,
that one of the suspects to being the culprit may have indeed been one of the two buddies who were in attendance with me at the showing.
I bought a box of Sno-Caps ere the commencement of the movie,
but so that I may enjoy the concession confection without the burden of guilt, I only ate about 1/3 of the box's contents & passed along what remained to Rob, the friend sitting my immediate right. He stated in a way that I interpreted as jokingly " "Ey dude, thanx, man. Tho I probably shouldn't...." then proceded to empty the box of chocolate delectables into his eager, over-sized pie-hole.
The possiblity that I held some fault in helping to set in motion the chain of events that led to this putrid act only added to my disgust & discomfort of what should been a fine evening at the cinema.

Because of all of this,
I feel that
the moral at the film's ending,
"We always a choice to do the right thing"
may have held more of a deeper revelence to me than the rest those in attendance that night.

As I post this, with the hindsight that comes with days passing,
I realize that maybe, just maybe,
that was the lesson that I was to walk away with all along.
What turned out to be a bitter affair,
turned out to be reminder that maybe, just maybe,
their is a Universal Balance, of which we, (myself included) are all a part of.
Maybe, just maybe,
things do happen for a reason.


Maybe,
God does have a plan.

rose


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you should get paid for some of your posts....
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Reply #27 posted 05/07/07 12:12pm

applekisses

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Dayspring said:

I was a bit let down by it. I went into it with very high expectations, though. The second one was by far the best. In fact, Spider-man 2 is probably the best superhero movie ever made.


I thought this one was a bit too cluttered, with the Harry, Venom and Sandman stuff. It probably should have stuck to just 2 of them. Plus, I thought it was too long. The first hour could have been tightened up a lot. He should have bonded with the symbiote sooner.


And this one didn't grab me emotionally (both with the Peter/MJ interactions OR the super power fantasy aspect of it) the same way the first 2 (especially the last one) did.




I agree with all of that, and would add the question of why they brought in Gwen Stacy if they weren't going to do the whole Gwen Stacy thing. I think using her death as a way to show Peter the error of the course he was on, it would have been the emotional heart of the movie (and that's on top of the MJ/Harry stuff!).


I agree...unless they're going to use her in the next films as Peter's love interest...he and MJ aren't married yet.
And I don't think they should have used Sandman and Venom in the same movie. I would have like to have seen each of those characters fleshed out more...they deserved the attention.
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Reply #28 posted 05/07/07 12:28pm

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Illustrator said:

I liked it.
I probably would have enjoyed it more if wasn't for that one scene where Peter cried because MJ broke up with him.
During that shot, some one in the near vicinty of where I was seated in the theatre farted in a manner that was so substantally sulfuric in nature , that, when combined with the fact that I don't find Kirsten Dunst all that particularly attractive, I found myself to be quite offended.
Add on top of that,
that one of the suspects to being the culprit may have indeed been one of the two buddies who were in attendance with me at the showing.
I bought a box of Sno-Caps ere the commencement of the movie,
but so that I may enjoy the concession confection without the burden of guilt, I only ate about 1/3 of the box's contents & passed along what remained to Rob, the friend sitting my immediate right. He stated in a way that I interpreted as jokingly " "Ey dude, thanx, man. Tho I probably shouldn't...." then proceded to empty the box of chocolate delectables into his eager, over-sized pie-hole.
The possiblity that I held some fault in helping to set in motion the chain of events that led to this putrid act only added to my disgust & discomfort of what should been a fine evening at the cinema.

Because of all of this,
I feel that
the moral at the film's ending,
"We always a choice to do the right thing"
may have held more of a deeper revelence to me than the rest those in attendance that night.

As I post this, with the hindsight that comes with days passing,
I realize that maybe, just maybe,
that was the lesson that I was to walk away with all along.
What turned out to be a bitter affair,
turned out to be reminder that maybe, just maybe,
their is a Universal Balance, of which we, (myself included) are all a part of.
Maybe, just maybe,
things do happen for a reason.


Maybe,
God does have a plan.

rose



excellent review biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 05/07/07 12:29pm

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I refuse to see it out of principle.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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