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PrintableCalhounSq said: http://music.msn.com/musi...9>1=7702
Manson's Failed Marriage 'Destroyed' Him
May 18, 8:40 AM EST The Associated Press 
Marilyn Manson says he was devastated over the breakup of his marriage to model and burlesque dancer Dita Von Teese. "I was completely destroyed. I had no soul left," the 38-year-old glitzy goth rocker says in Spin magazine's June issue, on newsstands May 29. "I define myself as a person, a human, an artist, as someone who makes things, writing, painting, music, and I couldn't do anything." Manson, whose real name is Brian Warner, married Von Teese in November 2005. She filed for divorce last December. "She said she had tolerated the lifestyle because she hoped I would change and threatened to leave if I didn't," Manson says. "I was sleeping on the couch in my own home. I was no longer supposed to be a rock star. I was someone who had to be apologized for. I wasn't prepared to be alone. I came out of this naked, a featherless bird." His outlook changed when his friendship with 19-year-old actress Evan Rachel Wood turned romantic. He tells the magazine he was impressed when she said she would die for him. "It might sound strange, but this made me want to live," he says. Wood, whose screen credits include "Thirteen" and "Running With Scissors," was quoted in the story as saying, "Boys in eye makeup are the greatest thing ever, that whole androgynous thing." Manson's new album, "Eat Me, Drink Me," is slated for release June 5. I know, I know: "What difference does it make if they're happy?! Mind your own! Blah, blah, blah... I'm sorry but a dude that old dating someone "junior in college" age is NOT COOL 
And yes, I know, we're on a Prince site/Mayte/Susan Moonsie - he's gross too. Ya happy? 
But back to Manson, he needs his ass kicked for the "naked, featherless bird" stuff  & seriously - how is it "impressive" when a 19 yr old girl says she'd "die for you"??? That sounds so damn pathetic & needy to me!!  WTF?? I fear for her mother's sanity You crack me up!!! | |
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My mom and Dad were 23 years apart, and they were happily married until my Dad passed away at 73. | |
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abierman said: they're both adults, nothing wrong with it!
when I was 34 I was dating a girl who was 20 at that time and I can tell you that it was bliss! It didn't last, but that was for other reasons than the age-difference. We're still in close contact, and I still admire her! true, they are two consenting adults, age doesn't even come into it... are you ready for submission
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For a Satanist, Brian sure impresses me as one who waxes awfully mushy and spiritualistic of late -- talk of having lost his "soul" and being "destroyed" by another mere person going away is odd for his ilk. Maybe he's finally growing up a bit.
But what most bugs me in this whole thing, though the age differential certainly makes it more pronounced, is this notion he is suddenly buoyed by someone willing to die for him.  Unless there's some mutuality here, seems almost cultish to me. Heck, why not just start his own religion and have 1000s willing to do the same?
Anyway, what the hell is romantic and inspiring in a loved one willing to die for you? I'd personally rather have a loved one live, in part, for me.  Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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retina said: .
I think it sounds like a textbook example of heartbroken behaviour. He desperately misses Dita and feels unloved by her, so replaces her with someone who adores him unconditionally and reminds him of her looks-wise.  
theAudience said: Btw, myself and some friends almost went to see Dita at the MGM Grand's Crazy Horse Paris in Vegas a few weeks ago.
Shut the funk UP! 
What I wouldn't give to see a Dita show... They seem magical, and bring back an era when sexuality was still something beautiful. I'm so jealous. . Dita is doing a show here in NY at the Sex Museum next week I think | |
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Dita is a gorgeous woman but so is his new girlfriend, that guy has some luck with women. [Edited 5/19/07 10:50am] Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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Here are some pics of Dita. She's gorgeous and very talented. She reminds me of Bettye Page. The b&w nude is for a Marc Jacobs campaign against skin cancer. That kid can't hold a candle to Dita.
http://i79.photobucket.co.../dita1.jpg Please just post LINKS to adult images! Thanx - Nik] | |
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SCNDLS said: Here are some pics of Dita. She's gorgeous and very talented. She reminds me of Bettye Page. The b&w nude is for a Marc Jacobs campaign against skin cancer. That kid can't hold a candle to Dita.
http://i79.photobucket.co.../dita1.jpg [Please just post LINKS to adult images! Thanx - Nik] Wow she has awesome boobs Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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Nothinbutjoy said: How old is his ex?
Is he following in Prince's footsteps and consistently dating girls (and I mean girls) very much younger? I gotta agree w/ CalhounSq on this one. It's icky.  agree   | |
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SCNDLS said: Here are some pics of Dita. She's gorgeous and very talented. She reminds me of Bettye Page. The b&w nude is for a Marc Jacobs campaign against skin cancer. That kid can't hold a candle to Dita.
http://i79.photobucket.co.../dita1.jpg Please just post LINKS to adult images! Thanx - Nik] Those are really sexy pictures. Dita used to be a blonde too. I can see a slight resemblance in the two girls. Maybe Brian will convince Evan to dye her hair. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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retina said: .
I think it sounds like a textbook example of heartbroken behaviour. He desperately misses Dita and feels unloved by her, so replaces her with someone who adores him unconditionally and reminds him of her looks-wise.
. I thought it was Evan who broke up the marriage? I don't know.....I can't keep up with celeb. gossip. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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sextonseven said: jerseykrs said: 38 and dressing up
   looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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SCNDLS said: Here are some pics of Dita. She's gorgeous and very talented.
at what? wearing (and not wearing) clothes? getting her picture taken? what's her talent, exactly, besides being famous for almost nothing but dating Marilyn Manson? "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss | |
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Ottensen said: theAudience said:  So if HE was 19 and SHE was 38 would it be Girl you're busted instead?
Btw, myself and some friends almost went to see Dita at the MGM Grand's Crazy Horse Paris in Vegas a few weeks ago. tA  Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 How was it? I said almost. 
We were walking through the MGM Grand after seeing KA and saw her advertised at the Crazy Horse. tA Tribal Disorder
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retina said: theAudience said: Btw, myself and some friends almost went to see Dita at the MGM Grand's Crazy Horse Paris in Vegas a few weeks ago.
Shut the funk UP!
What I wouldn't give to see a Dita show... They seem magical, and bring back an era when sexuality was still something beautiful. I'm so jealous. . One of my co-workers is a bigtime Dita-freak. We talked about going the next night but he wimped out at the moment of truth.
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theAudience said: Ottensen said: How was it? I said almost.
We were walking through the MGM Grand after seeing KA and saw her advertised at the Crazy Horse. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 You went to go see Carrot Top instead, didn't you.  looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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AnckSuNamun said: You went to go see Carrot Top instead, didn't you. In the words of the great philosopher Homey D. Clown... 
...I don't think so! And you already know what I had to say about CarrotFlop in your own thread. 
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Didn't Manson remove 2 ribs so he could give himself a BJ? | |
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Hey at least she is of legal age. | |
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theAudience said: CalhounSq said: I'm sorry but a dude that old dating someone "junior in college" age is NOT COOL
"I'M DISGUSTED" So if HE was 19 and SHE was 38 would it be Girl you're busted instead?
Btw, myself and some friends almost went to see Dita at the MGM Grand's Crazy Horse Paris in Vegas a few weeks ago. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Ahh, the shoe on the other foot theory It would be just as gross. The only difference is the guy would most likely just be fucking some "old broad", I'm not sure he'd be under the illusion that he'd "die for" her, or that she'd (the older woman) be silly enough to report on the asinine sayings of a 19 year old    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Felixxx said: Flowerz said:  ..It isn't a huge deal. I've been with guys much older than me too, and if you respect each other or know it's just fun, that's all that matters. I doubt I'd ever be serious about someone who was 20 years older than me though. Age ain't nothin' but a number. Some girls mature fast and guys just never grow up. But that's part of what's sickening here - who knows if she was just high when she said she'd "die" for him, but the fact that the statement impressed him? I mean, I can excuse her for saying it b/c she's super young. But his 38 year old ass being impressed by it? That's the part that makes me think it's sad on some level. I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Mozorro said: Didn't Manson remove 2 ribs so he could give himself a BJ?
You're thinking of Cher. Or maybe Richard Gere. Oh no, wait..... yeah, Cher. | |
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Mozorro said: Didn't Manson remove 2 ribs so he could give himself a BJ?
"they" used that one on Prince back in the day too. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss | |
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CalhounSq said: Felixxx said: It isn't a huge deal. I've been with guys much older than me too, and if you respect each other or know it's just fun, that's all that matters. I doubt I'd ever be serious about someone who was 20 years older than me though. Age ain't nothin' but a number. Some girls mature fast and guys just never grow up. But that's part of what's sickening here - who knows if she was just high when she said she'd "die" for him, but the fact that the statement impressed him? I mean, I can excuse her for saying it b/c she's super young. But his 38 year old ass being impressed by it? That's the part that makes me think it's sad on some level. Come on, if someone said that die 4 U crap regardless of how or why they said it, you would "use" it to make you look more "appealing" in the minds of the fools who fall for that kind of stuff. Manson is NOT a dumbass. | |
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CalhounSq said: theAudience said: So if HE was 19 and SHE was 38 would it be Girl you're busted instead?
Btw, myself and some friends almost went to see Dita at the MGM Grand's Crazy Horse Paris in Vegas a few weeks ago. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Ahh, the shoe on the other foot theory It would be just as gross. The only difference is the guy would most likely just be fucking some "old broad", I'm not sure he'd be under the illusion that he'd "die for" her, or that she'd (the older woman) be silly enough to report on the asinine sayings of a 19 year old Aah... 
...the Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance theory. 
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Live and let live....they are both consenting adults. If you listen to people's opinions it will limit your life and happiness. Who are we to say what adults should or should not be together. IMO age can't make or break a relationship...neither can race or any other labels you wanna apply (religion, countries, etc.)...you get my drift? The only thing that matters is if two people love each other or not and as long as they are both adults then it's their business. | |
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emilio319 said: Live and let live....they are both consenting adults. If you listen to people's opinions it will limit your life and happiness. Who are we to say what adults should or should not be together. IMO age can't make or break a relationship...neither can race or any other labels you wanna apply (religion, countries, etc.)...you get my drift? The only thing that matters is if two people love each other or not and as long as they are both adults then it's their business.
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abierman said: emilio319 said: Live and let live....they are both consenting adults. If you listen to people's opinions it will limit your life and happiness. Who are we to say what adults should or should not be together. IMO age can't make or break a relationship...neither can race or any other labels you wanna apply (religion, countries, etc.)...you get my drift? The only thing that matters is if two people love each other or not and as long as they are both adults then it's their business.
ah, words of wisdom..... co-sign  I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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RZR said: SCNDLS said: Here are some pics of Dita. She's gorgeous and very talented.
at what? wearing (and not wearing) clothes? getting her picture taken? what's her talent, exactly, besides being famous for almost nothing but dating Marilyn Manson? She's about as talented as any other fetish model. I will disagree however on her being famous for nothing but dating Marilyn Manson. I knew about her and she had a huge fan base long before they hooked up. | |
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What's the opinion on Bruce Willis dating a woman not much older than his daughter? |
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