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Reply #60 posted 05/10/07 1:09am

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xplnyrslf said:



Our family was at a resturant and my 2 1/2 year old flung food and it hit another diner. He was PISSED! I apologized. (hell it wasn't a 5 star resturant, or anything)
If you're going to have pizza at "Chuck E's pizza" food gets flying. I always raised our children with proper table manners. Some accidents happen.



when our 4 year old has done stuff like that... when she does we take her out. i have no problem dragging her kicking and screaming out of the place. chuck e's or not people have the right to not be assaulted by flying food or overly vocal kids.

oh and what is a " resturant" razz
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Reply #61 posted 05/10/07 1:17am

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xplnyrslf said:

One philosophy is, if the parent behaves WORSE than the child, that's an example of how not to be.


yeah, that is one thing my wife and i strive for. if she is to be punished we do not do it if we are angry with her. then it ends up being little more than an adult temper tantrum and that seems to reinforce them as an effective means to get ones way.

another aspect of so called positive discipline is this: i consult with parents and teachers of children with autism, one thing i push is positive behavior supports. that is do not use negative words like "NOT" if the are picking their noes tell then "use a tissue" if they are clapping their hands tell them "hands in pockets." in other words redirect them to a incompatible behavior with positive language.
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Reply #62 posted 05/10/07 1:21am

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SlamGlam said:

another aspect of so called positive discipline is this: i consult with parents and teachers of children with autism, one thing i push is positive behavior supports. that is do not use negative words like "NOT" if the are picking their noes tell then "use a tissue" if they are clapping their hands tell them "hands in pockets." in other words redirect them to a incompatible behavior with positive language.


It's a staple and perhaps THE staple in any teaching, or at least should be - to reinforce the positive, replacing the bad behaviour with a good one without saying "no", "don't" and "not". clapping
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Reply #63 posted 05/10/07 1:25am

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It's a staple and perhaps THE staple in any teaching, or at least should be - to reinforce the positive, replacing the bad behaviour with a good one without saying "no", "don't" and "not". clapping


you would think. but i have had problems getting teachers to get on board with it. they want to be the 'adult' and think the kids should follow their rules. but i say "if it works for you"
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Reply #64 posted 05/10/07 7:17am

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i think parents these days want to negotiate with their kids instead of punish them, when more than anything, childen are begging for boundaries and limits to be set (whether they know it or not). kids need parents, not friends. you can be a friend to your child, but it can't get in the way of being a parent first.


agreed.
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Reply #65 posted 05/10/07 5:34pm

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xplnyrslf said:



Our family was at a resturant and my 2 1/2 year old flung food and it hit another diner. He was PISSED! I apologized. (hell it wasn't a 5 star resturant, or anything)
If you're going to have pizza at "Chuck E's pizza" food gets flying. I always raised our children with proper table manners. Some accidents happen.



when our 4 year old has done stuff like that... when she does we take her out. i have no problem dragging her kicking and screaming out of the place. chuck e's or not people have the right to not be assaulted by flying food or overly vocal kids.

oh and what is a " resturant" razz


Touche'..restaurant. The difference is, a 2 year old isn't deliberately throwing food. They just get their arms going. It was a freak accident.
My point is, Don't go to children directed places if you need "prim and proper".
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Reply #66 posted 05/10/07 5:43pm

xplnyrslf

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SlamGlam said:

another aspect of so called positive discipline is this: i consult with parents and teachers of children with autism, one thing i push is positive behavior supports. that is do not use negative words like "NOT" if the are picking their noes tell then "use a tissue" if they are clapping their hands tell them "hands in pockets." in other words redirect them to a incompatible behavior with positive language.


It's a staple and perhaps THE staple in any teaching, or at least should be - to reinforce the positive, replacing the bad behaviour with a good one without saying "no", "don't" and "not". clapping


Autistic children require a special approach.

STILL! I good old ass-whooping in MY day explained everything.
Kept me from repeated mistakes. Saved on words, too. Nonverbal communication?


(This is starting to sound familiar....with the "I don't know" concept...)
[Edited 5/10/07 17:46pm]
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