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Thread started 04/30/07 3:09am

CalhounSq

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when HONESTY gets you in trouble!

I'm a grown ass woman. I know better than to EVER discuss my WAGES with ANYONE disbelief But I had a moment of stupidity & honesty & answered a question that was presented to me & now mf's are trying to launch a mutiny up & through whofarted boxed wall shake mad Okay, not a mutiny but it's officially a "rumor" that's going around. & now someone else is asking me to confirm said rumor before they renew their contract fit saw err

I have no idea why I wasn't thinking on my feet. I wanna just blame my momma for raising me too honest sad But it ain't her fault, & it ain't mine for mf's paying me what they want to pay me... but letting it slip out IS indeed my fault. I am a serious jackass for that. hammer

I don't wanna be the catalyst for a wave of frustrated "workers", I don't want to be their bargaining tool, & I don't want to be seen as the source of a "problem" for my employers b/c they've been really cool with me. In my business there is no "fair" playing field - people pay you what you're worth to them @ the time, it's always been like that. Some of us get the door cracked open wide, others get fucking hosed. Sometimes it's about skill, sometimes it's about dedication - you just have to go for YOURS & see what happens.

I just don't need the drama, I have enough trying to figure out what to eat everyday & keeping my laundry under control mad But I've contributed to the drama with my highly overrated honesty bullshit... Or maybe I should just claim "stupidity" on this one...

FUCK, I hate this...

sigh


& please don't ask me what I make 'cause I might be stupid enough to tell you disbelief



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Reply #1 posted 04/30/07 3:37am

REDFEATHERS

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This kinda happened to me also. It wasnt fair at all.

I was working for a company, and saw the profits grow as my designs were selling so well. I approached my boss and asked him for a raise. He offered said amount, and I was like no way, I was expecting 5 times what he offered. So he said he couldnt possibly go to that amount. I asked him to think about it over the weekend, cos I know my worth, and I wouldnt accept less. (Well yes it was an incredible amount, esp what he was used to handing out.. )

He knew he couldnt lose me so reluctantly agreed on the figure.

I was so happy with myself.

Anyway, it was kept secret, but obviously accounts, knew about it when they were processing my pay, and the woman who worked there kicked up a stink that I was getting paid more than her, she had worked there longer, she was twice my age etc etc

I thought, well fuckkk.. you work in money, why couldnt you negotiate with the boss.. I am just a designer.. wacky

so she demanded the same amount of money as me or she would leave.

She got the same amount as me,. but fuck, it was me who had to do the hard work in the first place.. I got paid what I was worth and she who worked in money all her life couldnt approach her own boss who she had known years and said look here, where is my pay rise?

confused
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/07 3:38am

REDFEATHERS

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Oh btw.. how much do you make? Just whisper it in my ear now .. batting eyes
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Reply #3 posted 04/30/07 3:58am

Rhondab

so basically, you ballin' huh?


orgnote me so I can send you a pic of the shoes I want you do buy for me! lol


awwww....it'll be aight. hug
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Reply #4 posted 04/30/07 4:43am

onenitealone

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flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

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Reply #5 posted 04/30/07 5:14am

Anx

onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

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just make sure when you flipped off em, there's nobody around who will mistakenly think you're flipping them off instead. believe me, a case of mistaken bird-flipping is no fun. pout
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/07 5:21am

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Anx said:

onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

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just make sure when you flipped off em, there's nobody around who will mistakenly think you're flipping them off instead. believe me, a case of mistaken bird-flipping is no fun. pout


falloff

Hey you. smile hug

Yes, I saw your thread. lol How did you rectify the situation?? Did you have to go through an entire embarrassing explanation?? giggle
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Reply #7 posted 04/30/07 5:24am

Anx

onenitealone said:

Anx said:



just make sure when you flipped off em, there's nobody around who will mistakenly think you're flipping them off instead. believe me, a case of mistaken bird-flipping is no fun. pout


falloff

Hey you. smile hug

Yes, I saw your thread. lol How did you rectify the situation?? Did you have to go through an entire embarrassing explanation?? giggle



no, i just felt like an ass. i was just all like, "oh...NO. NO, NOT YOU. HIM. HIM!" it didn't matter though. the ass gauntlet had been thrown. disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 04/30/07 5:26am

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REDFEATHERS said:

This kinda happened to me also. It wasnt fair at all.

I was working for a company, and saw the profits grow as my designs were selling so well. I approached my boss and asked him for a raise. He offered said amount, and I was like no way, I was expecting 5 times what he offered. So he said he couldnt possibly go to that amount. I asked him to think about it over the weekend, cos I know my worth, and I wouldnt accept less. (Well yes it was an incredible amount, esp what he was used to handing out.. )

He knew he couldnt lose me so reluctantly agreed on the figure.

I was so happy with myself.

Anyway, it was kept secret, but obviously accounts, knew about it when they were processing my pay, and the woman who worked there kicked up a stink that I was getting paid more than her, she had worked there longer, she was twice my age etc etc

I thought, well fuckkk.. you work in money, why couldnt you negotiate with the boss.. I am just a designer.. wacky

so she demanded the same amount of money as me or she would leave.

She got the same amount as me,. but fuck, it was me who had to do the hard work in the first place.. I got paid what I was worth and she who worked in money all her life couldnt approach her own boss who she had known years and said look here, where is my pay rise?

confused


At least a snoop had to find out about your pay, you weren't goofy enough to just TELL someone sad
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Reply #9 posted 04/30/07 5:28am

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Rhondab said:

so basically, you ballin' huh?


orgnote me so I can send you a pic of the shoes I want you do buy for me! lol


awwww....it'll be aight. hug

NO! hmph! And don't Threaddy & Lammi split your shoe allowance every month anyway?? lol

I want some shoes too! mad
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Reply #10 posted 04/30/07 5:29am

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onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

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I feel better about it now but man, I hate being involved in office drama. Or having someone scrutinize me/my work. Yes, it's all competitive but people get viscious when it comes to $ & I just don't want no paaaaarts of the drama exclaim
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Reply #11 posted 04/30/07 5:30am

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Anx said:

onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

hug


just make sure when you flipped off em, there's nobody around who will mistakenly think you're flipping them off instead. believe me, a case of mistaken bird-flipping is no fun. pout

And here I am thinking you had some great Anx wisdom for me disbelief

razz
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Reply #12 posted 04/30/07 5:32am

Anx

CalhounSq said:

Anx said:



just make sure when you flipped off em, there's nobody around who will mistakenly think you're flipping them off instead. believe me, a case of mistaken bird-flipping is no fun. pout

And here I am thinking you had some great Anx wisdom for me disbelief

razz


no wisdom, sorry to say. i don't really like the people i work with enough to engage with them that much. i wouldn't be honest or dishonest. i'd just shrug and ask to be left alone. lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/07 5:36am

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Anx said:

no, i just felt like an ass. i was just all like, "oh...NO. NO, NOT YOU. HIM. HIM!" it didn't matter though. the ass gauntlet had been thrown. disbelief


spit

By which time they'd already stormed off, leaving you red-faced. lol

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Reply #14 posted 04/30/07 5:38am

REDFEATHERS

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onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

hug



Yeah.. nod Tell people, "WTF? You think I am really on that salary? Hell no.. double that, and its closer to what I am on.. " headbang


lol

innocent
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Reply #15 posted 04/30/07 5:38am

onenitealone

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CalhounSq said:

onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

hug

I feel better about it now but man, I hate being involved in office drama. Or having someone scrutinize me/my work. Yes, it's all competitive but people get viscious when it comes to $ & I just don't want no paaaaarts of the drama exclaim


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Glad you're feeling better, Calhoun. I know, though - this happens *EVERY* time we have a pay review in our office. We're always told not to discuss what we got but, inevitably, someone spills the beans and then all hell breaks loose. lol

And, usually, it's the lazy censored's who didn't get much that whine the most. rolleyes


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Reply #16 posted 04/30/07 5:40am

onenitealone

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Anx said:

CalhounSq said:


And here I am thinking you had some great Anx wisdom for me disbelief

razz


no wisdom, sorry to say. i don't really like the people i work with enough to engage with them that much. i wouldn't be honest or dishonest. i'd just shrug and ask to be left alone. lol


lol highfive

You know it's not going to go down well when you swan in the next day dripping in designer gear, don't you?? confused
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Reply #17 posted 04/30/07 5:42am

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REDFEATHERS said:

onenitealone said:

flipped off 'em, Calhoun.

hug



Yeah.. nod Tell people, "WTF? You think I am really on that salary? Hell no.. double that, and its closer to what I am on.. " headbang


lol

innocent


mr.green hug

See? I think that woman who worked in your accounts office had absolutely no right to do that. For a start, as you say, she worked in that field so you'd think she would look into it in more detail. But I think she abused her position in doing that - okay, she has to go through erveryone's wages by the sounds of it but the way she went about it... she might as well have opened up your pay slip. disbelief
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Reply #18 posted 04/30/07 5:42am

Anx

onenitealone said:

Anx said:



no wisdom, sorry to say. i don't really like the people i work with enough to engage with them that much. i wouldn't be honest or dishonest. i'd just shrug and ask to be left alone. lol


lol highfive

You know it's not going to go down well when you swan in the next day dripping in designer gear, don't you?? confused


oh well - i'd be all "eat a jacklyn smith collection pantsuit, bitches!" finger3
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Reply #19 posted 04/30/07 5:44am

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Anx said:

onenitealone said:



lol highfive

You know it's not going to go down well when you swan in the next day dripping in designer gear, don't you?? confused


oh well - i'd be all "eat a jacklyn smith collection pantsuit, bitches!" finger3


falloff lol
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Reply #20 posted 04/30/07 6:01am

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I think what makes it so weird is that the person asking for confirmation of my rate is also the person who took me under their wing, trained me, gave me so much valuable info, has been so supportive & could frankly run circles around me in her sleep! So I feel shitty that they haven't recognized her monitarily in the same way they have me BUT it's really not my problem or responsibility & I don't appreciate being put in the middle of her contract negotiation sigh
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Reply #21 posted 04/30/07 6:13am

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CalhounSq said:

I think what makes it so weird is that the person asking for confirmation of my rate is also the person who took me under their wing, trained me, gave me so much valuable info, has been so supportive & could frankly run circles around me in her sleep! So I feel shitty that they haven't recognized her monitarily in the same way they have me BUT it's really not my problem or responsibility & I don't appreciate being put in the middle of her contract negotiation sigh


That's hard - and I can understand why that person might be upset - but they need to take the issue to your Manager, not you. There could be any number of reasons as to why you're being paid a higher wage. nod

Try not to let it get to you, Calhoun. hug
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Reply #22 posted 04/30/07 6:18am

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onenitealone said:

REDFEATHERS said:




Yeah.. nod Tell people, "WTF? You think I am really on that salary? Hell no.. double that, and its closer to what I am on.. " headbang


lol

innocent


mr.green hug

See? I think that woman who worked in your accounts office had absolutely no right to do that. For a start, as you say, she worked in that field so you'd think she would look into it in more detail. But I think she abused her position in doing that - okay, she has to go through erveryone's wages by the sounds of it but the way she went about it... she might as well have opened up your pay slip. disbelief



Yeah I know and I was so mad, cos I worked hard for that money anway and I worked hard trying to persuade my boss to up my salary to what I believed I was worth, and she was happy on what she was getting until she saw my increase, so she threw her rattle out her pram until she got the same.. poor boss, my pay increase ended up costing him double the amount

but yeah she was really unprofessional..
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Reply #23 posted 04/30/07 6:19am

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CalhounSq said:

I think what makes it so weird is that the person asking for confirmation of my rate is also the person who took me under their wing, trained me, gave me so much valuable info, has been so supportive & could frankly run circles around me in her sleep! So I feel shitty that they haven't recognized her monitarily in the same way they have me BUT it's really not my problem or responsibility & I don't appreciate being put in the middle of her contract negotiation sigh



hug silly bitch that she is..
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Reply #24 posted 04/30/07 6:49am

Rhondab

CalhounSq said:

Rhondab said:

so basically, you ballin' huh?


orgnote me so I can send you a pic of the shoes I want you do buy for me! lol


awwww....it'll be aight. hug

NO! hmph! And don't Threaddy & Lammi split your shoe allowance every month anyway?? lol

I want some shoes too! mad



Them two were suppose to split the money with me??

where dey at? mad
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Reply #25 posted 04/30/07 7:46am

live4lust

people always wanna know that and it's none of their business. it can be hard to lie if you don't do it very often, so i recommend a strict regimen of five lies a week. you can choose what they'll be about! it's fun. biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 04/30/07 7:52am

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hug Calhoun
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #27 posted 04/30/07 10:57am

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CalhounSq said:

I think what makes it so weird is that the person asking for confirmation of my rate is also the person who took me under their wing, trained me, gave me so much valuable info, has been so supportive & could frankly run circles around me in her sleep! So I feel shitty that they haven't recognized her monitarily in the same way they have me BUT it's really not my problem or responsibility & I don't appreciate being put in the middle of her contract negotiation sigh


that is truly fucked up..sorry to hear that cs sad they must value u more as an employee-u may possess other qualities along with simply knowin' ur shit-dont let her upset u girl
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Reply #28 posted 04/30/07 11:32am

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u need to run some damage limitation and let your managment know what happened.
so that they are well prepared to deal with the rash of problems this person is going to cause them

if indeed it gets that far
are you ready for submission

cidade de deus
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Reply #29 posted 04/30/07 11:38am

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CalhounSq said:

I'm a grown ass woman. I know better than to EVER discuss my WAGES with ANYONE disbelief But I had a moment of stupidity & honesty & answered a question that was presented to me & now mf's are trying to launch a mutiny up & through whofarted boxed wall shake mad Okay, not a mutiny but it's officially a "rumor" that's going around. & now someone else is asking me to confirm said rumor before they renew their contract fit saw err

I have no idea why I wasn't thinking on my feet. I wanna just blame my momma for raising me too honest sad But it ain't her fault, & it ain't mine for mf's paying me what they want to pay me... but letting it slip out IS indeed my fault. I am a serious jackass for that. hammer

I don't wanna be the catalyst for a wave of frustrated "workers", I don't want to be their bargaining tool, & I don't want to be seen as the source of a "problem" for my employers b/c they've been really cool with me. In my business there is no "fair" playing field - people pay you what you're worth to them @ the time, it's always been like that. Some of us get the door cracked open wide, others get fucking hosed. Sometimes it's about skill, sometimes it's about dedication - you just have to go for YOURS & see what happens.

I just don't need the drama, I have enough trying to figure out what to eat everyday & keeping my laundry under control mad But I've contributed to the drama with my highly overrated honesty bullshit... Or maybe I should just claim "stupidity" on this one...

FUCK, I hate this...

sigh


& please don't ask me what I make 'cause I might be stupid enough to tell you disbelief



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been there in the last six month me and my big mouth!!
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