CinisterCee said: evenstar3 said: i didn't know albert fish was an orger. | |
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Anx said: CarrieMpls said: Did anyone bring up the horrors of the meat industry yet? Both in how they treat animals before they're slaughtered, not to mention how they treat workers and their general corrupt business practices?
PS - I'm not a veggie. I just play one most of the time. i think we're supposed to be focusing on why vegetables are good and not why meat is bad. i need to brush up on my dr. seuss that joke isn't funny anymore it's TOO close to home, and it's too near the bone Too close to home and it's too near the bone. | |
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evenstar3 said: CinisterCee said: i didn't know albert fish was an orger. Oh, I suppose now eating human is frowned down upon. I can't win! | |
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Ex-Moderator | Anx said: babooshleeky said: I know you guys are joking around and having fun...but I really want to know more about this no meat crap...are the protein subs high in fat? what are the best, in your opinion.... tons of vegetables are high in protein - spinach, for example, has tons of the stuff. the "fact" that a vegetarian diet lacks protein is a myth, most likely constructed by the meat industry and kept alive by folks looking for a reason not to make the switch. it's true - there ARE necessary transitions to be made when you take on a vegetarian diet, or else you can really do a number on yourself - but that's true with ANY diet that isn't balanced, meat-based or no. 3/4 cup of peas has more protein than an egg or a tablespoon of peanut butter. |
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retina said: Anx said: and that represents every single vegetarian in the world, or for that matter, every vegetarian on the org Of course not. I never said that, you did. But there are many enough to make it provocative. to the extent to which you can make defensive/borderline-offensive statements without so much as getting a clear idea of what an individual's investment may be?
So talking about why I like meat is borderline offensive but calling meat-eaters murdurers is not? Yeah that makes perfect Anx sense. this thread wasn't about why retina (or anyone else) likes meat, really, is it? though in the most patently predictable fashion, you had to take it there, just like every other thread on vegetarianism that gets started on the org. your P&R training in ubiquitous, useless cage-rattling has served you well, padafuckingwan. it feels like an act of charity just to engage in dialog with you sometimes. [Edited 4/21/07 13:23pm] | |
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Anx said: it feels like an act of charity just to engage in dialog with you sometimes.
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Anx said: this thread wasn't about why retina (or anyone else) likes meat, really, is it? though in the most patently predictable fashion, you had to take it there, just like every other thread on vegetarianism that gets started on the org. I didn't take it there, the original poster did when he called me and other meat-eaters murdurers. But you'll never understand that, will you? | |
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meanwhile..
babooshleeky said: I know you guys are joking around and having fun...but I really want to know more about this no meat crap...are the protein subs high in fat? what are the best, in your opinion.... | |
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CarrieMpls said: Anx said: tons of vegetables are high in protein - spinach, for example, has tons of the stuff. the "fact" that a vegetarian diet lacks protein is a myth, most likely constructed by the meat industry and kept alive by folks looking for a reason not to make the switch. it's true - there ARE necessary transitions to be made when you take on a vegetarian diet, or else you can really do a number on yourself - but that's true with ANY diet that isn't balanced, meat-based or no. 3/4 cup of peas has more protein than an egg or a tablespoon of peanut butter. Ya that is true, but they are hight in sugar carbs/whatever | |
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Anx said: Teacher said: Brain is not a limb Wow. Now I know why they call you Teacher. | |
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live4lust said: evenstar3 said: i didn't know albert fish was an orger. Oh, I suppose now eating human is frowned down upon. I can't win! i don't think it was thought too highly of then, either | |
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babooshleeky said: CarrieMpls said: 3/4 cup of peas has more protein than an egg or a tablespoon of peanut butter. Ya that is true, but they are hight in sugar carbs/whatever I don't know, that sounds like an ok trade off. it's not like it is refined sugar. | |
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Oh, and...
I only posted on this thread to take the piss on Anx, I'm a meat eater so I didn't post on why I'm vegetarian... it's a thread directed at vegetarian orgers, so meat-eaters really should stay the fuck away from this thread. Both meat eaters and meat-is-murder idiots are equally annoying. Let people be what they want dammit! | |
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CinisterCee said: meanwhile..
babooshleeky said: I know you guys are joking around and having fun...but I really want to know more about this no meat crap...are the protein subs high in fat? what are the best, in your opinion.... What, I am really serious...wtf?!?! I am trying to get healthy here people..... | |
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CinisterCee said: babooshleeky said: Ya that is true, but they are hight in sugar carbs/whatever I don't know, that sounds like an ok trade off. it's not like it is refined sugar. I know...I am just real nitpicky, my father has diabetes, so we are all as a family watching any kind of sugar intake | |
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Ex-Moderator | babooshleeky said: CarrieMpls said: 3/4 cup of peas has more protein than an egg or a tablespoon of peanut butter. Ya that is true, but they are hight in sugar carbs/whatever The amount of naturally occurring sugar and carbs in fresh peas is certainly not something that is bad for you. That's what's wrong with the crazy diet industry. Someone somewhere decides 'carbs' are bad for you or cause you to gain weight or whatever and suddenly people are scared to eat a serving of a fresh vegetable. |
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CarrieMpls said: babooshleeky said: Ya that is true, but they are hight in sugar carbs/whatever The amount of naturally occurring sugar and carbs in fresh peas is certainly not something that is bad for you. That's what's wrong with the crazy diet industry. Someone somewhere decides 'carbs' are bad for you or cause you to gain weight or whatever and suddenly people are scared to eat a serving of a fresh vegetable. I know that feeling for sure.... | |
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babooshleeky said: CinisterCee said: I don't know, that sounds like an ok trade off. it's not like it is refined sugar. I know...I am just real nitpicky, my father has diabetes, so we are all as a family watching any kind of sugar intake if you're diabetic, why are you concerned about eliminating meat? | |
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CinisterCee said: babooshleeky said: I know...I am just real nitpicky, my father has diabetes, so we are all as a family watching any kind of sugar intake if you're diabetic, why are you concerned about eliminating meat? i ask this because i think diabetes requires more immediate (re: easy, meat) answers but i guess that doesn't mean one cannot modify the design of their diet. | |
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CinisterCee said: babooshleeky said: I know...I am just real nitpicky, my father has diabetes, so we are all as a family watching any kind of sugar intake if you're diabetic, why are you concerned about eliminating meat? My dad's diabetic, and I was talking about sugar intake for him...I guess we got off topic for a minute | |
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CinisterCee said: CinisterCee said: if you're diabetic, why are you concerned about eliminating meat? i ask this because i think diabetes requires more immediate (re: easy, meat) answers but i guess that doesn't mean one cannot modify the design of their diet. We are all as a Whole Family eating healthy to support my dad and so everyone else could get healthier in the process. I went to this thread because I am basically sick of meat and wanted info! | |
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babooshleeky said: CinisterCee said: if you're diabetic, why are you concerned about eliminating meat? My dad's diabetic, and I was talking about sugar intake for him...I guess we got off topic for a minute no i understand.. it is important to make choices that are good for families too. i just had a knee-jerk reaction because i haven't given up eating meat yet. | |
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Oh, I gotta ask this! I'm allergic to soy and have some issues with fruit. Would it even be possible for me to be a vegetarian? Not that I'd want to, but I wonderif. | |
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CinisterCee said: babooshleeky said: My dad's diabetic, and I was talking about sugar intake for him...I guess we got off topic for a minute no i understand.. it is important to make choices that are good for families too. i just had a knee-jerk reaction because i haven't given up eating meat yet. I still eat meat too, just leaner healthier meats, I need the protein, and came here to get info on alternative proteins | |
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ok
but serving peas that has natural sugars in it isn't the same as a serving of refined sugar. | |
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CinisterCee said: ok
but serving peas that has natural sugars in it isn't the same as a serving of refined sugar. anyone care to drop some science on this? | |
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CinisterCee said: CinisterCee said: ok
but serving peas that has natural sugars in it isn't the same as a serving of refined sugar. anyone care to drop some science on this? I dunno the science, I just know that higher carb veggies like peas, corn and carrots, affect the blood sugar more than lower carb veggies. | |
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there is some nutritional basis for natural sugars vs. refined sugars though. | |
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babooshleeky said: CinisterCee said: anyone care to drop some science on this? I dunno the science, I just know that higher carb veggies like peas, corn and carrots, affect the blood sugar more than lower carb veggies. ok then I guess you are looking to eat lower carb veggies as a protein replacement. | |
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live4lust said: Oh, I gotta ask this! I'm allergic to soy and have some issues with fruit. Would it even be possible for me to be a vegetarian?
first you have to purify yourself in the waters of lake minnetonka | |
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