Ex-Moderator | UCantHavaDaMango said: CarrieMpls said: I can see the cocaine user thing, but why wouldn't you want someone who posed naked as your attorney? Nudity doesn't bother me. I used to take nude figure drawing classes, and the models (well, most of them anyway) were very classy and tasteful. Now, purposefully posing in a pornographic video as one last hurrah before becoming a lawyer? I see that as immature and in poor taste. So you choose your attorney based on their taste? I guess I don't see it as any big deal. And don't understand why anyone would. I think posing nude has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's merits for any job. |
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UCantHavaDaMango said: CarrieMpls said: I can see the cocaine user thing, but why wouldn't you want someone who posed naked as your attorney? Nudity doesn't bother me. I used to take nude figure drawing classes, and the models (well, most of them anyway) were very classy and tasteful. Now, purposefully posing in a pornographic video as one last hurrah before becoming a lawyer? I see that as immature and in poor taste. Did she engage in any sort of coitus in the video? I thought it was just a nudity thing. | |
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PANDURITO said: UCantHavaDaMango said: Well, to be honest, I wouldn't want a porn star or cocaine user as my lawyer!
You appear naked in a calender and you're a porn star? God bless America! Porn stars--all of them. | |
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CarrieMpls said: UCantHavaDaMango said: Nudity doesn't bother me. I used to take nude figure drawing classes, and the models (well, most of them anyway) were very classy and tasteful. Now, purposefully posing in a pornographic video as one last hurrah before becoming a lawyer? I see that as immature and in poor taste. So you choose your attorney based on their taste? I guess I don't see it as any big deal. And don't understand why anyone would. I think posing nude has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's merits for any job. Whether it's right or wrong to appear in a Playboy video isn't the issue, it's the fact that she should have considered the consequences of doing so. Even if some people see nothing wrong with it, others do. It may affect her career down the road, especially in her line of work. Look at all the rediculous dirt they dig up on people when they go to trial. If dirt was found on the lawyer as well, who knows what would happen. It is unfortunate, but I am disappointed that she doesn't seem to understand these things. It makes her look very naive. And that's all I have to say about that. [Edited 4/10/07 16:33pm] Wanna hear me sing? www.ChampagneHoneybee.com | |
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Ex-Moderator | UCantHavaDaMango said: CarrieMpls said: So you choose your attorney based on their taste? I guess I don't see it as any big deal. And don't understand why anyone would. I think posing nude has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's merits for any job. Whether or not it's right or wrong to appear in a Playboy video isn't the issue, it's the fact that she should have considered the consequences of doing so. Even if some people see nothing wrong with it, others do. It may affect her career down the road, especially in her line of work. Look at all the rediculous dirt they dig up on people when they go to trial. If dirt was found on the lawyer as well, who knows what would happen. It is unfortunate, but I am disappointed that she doesn't seem to understand these things. It makes her look very naive. And that's all I have to say about that. [Edited 4/10/07 16:30pm] I totally think she is naive if she believed this wouldn't impact her in any way. That's not my point. I understand SOME people may think badly of her. I'm asking specifically why you do. You seem to think it reflects poorly on her only because other people will think so. At the root of this is the question of what is so wrong with it? If you don't think it's wrong to pose nude, I don't understand why you'd think less of her. Perhaps you find it morally wrong to pose nude. If so, then fine, I guess, I just think it's silly. If it's not morally wrong for her to do it, then why would anyone have a problem? And that's what I'm getting at. No one should see any issue with this impacting her career. She's done nothing wrong. And if people don't ever do these things, we won't ever break those barriers. I have strong feelings about how we treat women, how we feel about women in porn, the dichotomy of men spending billions of dollars on the porn industry, but then calling those women unfit to do anything else, treating them as anything other than capable, equal human beings. |
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sextonseven said: Porn stars--all of them. What a scandal | |
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CarrieMpls said: I totally think she is naive if she believed this wouldn't impact her in any way. That's not my point. I understand SOME people may think badly of her. I'm asking specifically why you do. You seem to think it reflects poorly on her only because other people will think so. At the root of this is the question of what is so wrong with it? If you don't think it's wrong to pose nude, I don't understand why you'd think less of her. Perhaps you find it morally wrong to pose nude. If so, then fine, I guess, I just think it's silly. If it's not morally wrong for her to do it, then why would anyone have a problem? And that's what I'm getting at. No one should see any issue with this impacting her career. She's done nothing wrong. And if people don't ever do these things, we won't ever tbreak those barriers. I have strong feelings about how we treat women, how we feel about women in porn, the dichotomy of men spending billions of dollars on the porn industry, but then calling those women unfit to do anything else, treating them as anything other than capable, equal human beings. Wow. These are a lot of questions, and I don't think I can answer them all right now. I really don't have that much invested in her story, I just made comments based on my first impression. I don't want to get into my opinions on porn, because that's for a whole different thread. Anyway, if I am going to spend lots and lots of money on a lawyer to represent me in a court case, I would want someone who is really good at what they do and professional. After all, they are representing ME. She may be very good, and that's great. But, if I were to find out that my very expensive lawyer who is handling my very important case appeared nude to deliberately look "un-laywer like", it would give me an uneasy feeling. If I thought it would affect my case in any way, I would opt to choose someone else. Like I said, I really don't want to get into a deep discussion on porn, but I will say that I'm not a big fan. And no I'm not a prude! A lot of it does have to do with the treatment of women and how they're portrayed. OK, that really is all for now. [Edited 4/10/07 17:07pm] Wanna hear me sing? www.ChampagneHoneybee.com | |
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I don't think badly of her for posing nude. I think it was the wrong decision to make for the profession she's going into. It could have an effect on some jurors(who might be more conservative, and frown on her past). That's the reality. | |
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CarrieMpls said: I don't get what the big deal is.
Why would this keep her from getting a job? That's ludicrous. The real answer: most lawyers are vindictive pricks The lawyer answer: her actions demonstrate an astounding lack of judgment. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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Now the ex-boyfriend is giving his opinion.
From the NY Daily News: SHE WASN'T CAMERA-SHY
Ex says Brooklyn law student blabbed all over campus about Playboy video BY BRENDAN BROSH and VERONIKA BELENKAYA DAILY NEWS WRITERS Wednesday, April 11th 2007, 4:00 AM A Brooklyn law student who took it all off for Playboy TV has only herself to blame for the scandal, her ex-boyfriend told the Daily News yesterday. Adriana Dominguez, who's in her final year at Brooklyn Law School, blabbed about her sexy exploits all around campus, said former flame Sean Kalish. "She told everyone in school, 'This is what I did, watch this,'" said Kalish, 25, a fellow third-year student at the school. "She even posted a link to it in her MySpace [online profile]," he said. Kalish was dating Dominguez, 24, last July when the brainy blond answered an ad to appear in an episode of the Playboy TV series "Naked Happy Girls." In a photographer's test clip that has circulated online throughout the city's legal circles in the last three weeks, Dominguez happily strips and poses with gavels she won in college debate competitions. Kalish has a brief cameo - praising his girlfriend's behind and slapping her back side playfully as she lies draped across his lap. "That was kind of a hipster couple. He didn't expect to be photographed, but he was fine with it," said photographer Andrew Einhorn, also a producer on the show, which re-airs this month and next. Kalish told The News he regretted his part in the nude romp. "It was definitely not my wisest moment," he said at his Manhattan apartment building. "I already have a job lined up. I'm hoping my employer doesn't find out. I'm quite embarrassed by all this. I wish it didn't happen." He called his ex "smart," "beautiful" and "creative" - but not exactly demure. "She kind of thrives on this kind of drama," he said. "I wish that Adriana had been a little more discreet about it," Kalish said. The couple dated for about a year and a half before breaking up. Dominguez, who said Monday that she never expected the clip to become so widespread, was hiding out in her downtown Brooklyn dorm room yesterday with her roommate of three years. "It's upsetting for all her friends. It's a bad scene here," roomie Raven Dorantes, 27, said. "She's done nothing wrong." Law blogs and Brooklyn Law students were split over whether Dominguez's one-time striptease should affect her law career. "She should have known better. Everything affects you in law school," one student on campus said. But her boss doesn't care what she does with her briefs in private - as long as her legal work is solid. "This isn't something you see in the papers every day," said a bemused Chip Gray of the nonprofit South Brooklyn Legal Services, where Dominguez is an intern. "I don't care what she does when she's not working here," he added with a laugh. "I can't imagine anybody would take it too seriously, but you never know in this world." Kalish wasn't as relaxed about the ordeal. "It's definitely not the kind of attention I wanted. This is a conservative field and this is probably not going to do good things for her. It's not going to do good things for me either." http://www.nydailynews.co...rashy.html | |
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sextonseven said: Now the ex-boyfriend is giving his opinion.
tacky, tacky, tacky. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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so if this ex-boyfriend doesn't want his new job to find out about this then why did he speak to the paper about it and give his full name?
Those two sound like a match made in idiot heaven. | |
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Stax said: CarrieMpls said: I don't get what the big deal is.
Why would this keep her from getting a job? That's ludicrous. The real answer: most lawyers are vindictive pricks The lawyer answer: her actions demonstrate an astounding lack of judgment. The article even suggests that she could be denied admission to the bar on character and fitness grounds. I think this is extremely unlikely, though, for various reasons:
I agree that this may hurt her employment prospects, due to a perceived lack of judgment. (It sounds as if she used her real name and biographical info for the video, and IMHO that was the major mistake.) I do wonder, though, whether she may also benefit somewhat from the free publicity provided by the media. Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position. |
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matt said: Stax said: The real answer: most lawyers are vindictive pricks The lawyer answer: her actions demonstrate an astounding lack of judgment. The article even suggests that she could be denied admission to the bar on character and fitness grounds. I think this is extremely unlikely, though, for various reasons:
I agree that this may hurt her employment prospects, due to a perceived lack of judgment. (It sounds as if she used her real name and biographical info for the video, and IMHO that was the major mistake.) I do wonder, though, whether she may also benefit somewhat from the free publicity provided by the media. Yeah, I agree about the character and fitness assessment. This won't keep her out of the bar. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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Ex-Moderator | Stax said: sextonseven said: Now the ex-boyfriend is giving his opinion.
tacky, tacky, tacky. |
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CarrieMpls said: UCantHavaDaMango said: Well, to be honest, I wouldn't want a porn star or cocaine user as my lawyer!
I can see the cocaine user thing, but why wouldn't you want someone who posed naked as your attorney? because a ,large part of practicing law has to do with the exercise of good judgment, which she seems to lack. other than that, her nudity shouldn't really sffect anyone's opinions of her. | |
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Ex-Moderator | XxAxX said: CarrieMpls said: I can see the cocaine user thing, but why wouldn't you want someone who posed naked as your attorney? because a ,large part of practicing law has to do with the exercise of good judgment, which she seems to lack. other than that, her nudity shouldn't really sffect anyone's opinions of her. OK, just to play devil's advocate, would we call it poor judgement if she wasn't embarrassed, and wasn't playing the naive, oh I really didn't think this would happen thing? If she was happy with what she'd done? If she said, yes, some may not approve, but those people who don't are silly prudes anyway. I'm smart, I'm educated, I'm an adult AND I'm damn sexy, what's so wrong with that? I'm still not getting the big deal. If she doesn't care if the world sees her nude, why should anyone else? |
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CarrieMpls said: XxAxX said: because a ,large part of practicing law has to do with the exercise of good judgment, which she seems to lack. other than that, her nudity shouldn't really sffect anyone's opinions of her. OK, just to play devil's advocate, would we call it poor judgement if she wasn't embarrassed, and wasn't playing the naive, oh I really didn't think this would happen thing? If she was happy with what she'd done? If she said, yes, some may not approve, but those people who don't are silly prudes anyway. I'm smart, I'm educated, I'm an adult AND I'm damn sexy, what's so wrong with that? I'm still not getting the big deal. If she doesn't care if the world sees her nude, why should anyone else? the reason folks might think she has made a big mistake by posing nude is that if her reputation follows her, once she becomes a practicing lawyer she will have a difficult time attracting clients who want their legal matters handled discretely by someone mature and respectable. they will hear her name and just automatically hire another attorney. in this business personal reputation is a big part of what attorneys have to sell. take, for example, minneapolis' own lori peterson, the attorney who handled the Hooters case a few years back. do you remember the hullabaloo over her behavior? that stigma is still with her today. in a sense, it may have helped her attract some clients, but for the most part the legal community does regard her with a bit of reserve these days. | |
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Ex-Moderator | XxAxX said: CarrieMpls said: OK, just to play devil's advocate, would we call it poor judgement if she wasn't embarrassed, and wasn't playing the naive, oh I really didn't think this would happen thing? If she was happy with what she'd done? If she said, yes, some may not approve, but those people who don't are silly prudes anyway. I'm smart, I'm educated, I'm an adult AND I'm damn sexy, what's so wrong with that? I'm still not getting the big deal. If she doesn't care if the world sees her nude, why should anyone else? the reason folks might think she has made a big mistake by posing nude is that if her reputation follows her, once she becomes a practicing lawyer she will have a difficult time attracting clients who want their legal matters handled discretely by someone mature and respectable. they will hear her name and just automatically hire another attorney. in this business personal reputation is a big part of what attorneys have to sell. take, for example, minneapolis' own lori peterson, the attorney who handled the Hooters case a few years back. do you remember the hullabaloo over her behavior? that stigma is still with her today. in a sense, it may have helped her attract some clients, but for the most part the legal community does regard her with a bit of reserve these days. So again, posing nude=immature and unrespectable. |
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CarrieMpls said: XxAxX said: the reason folks might think she has made a big mistake by posing nude is that if her reputation follows her, once she becomes a practicing lawyer she will have a difficult time attracting clients who want their legal matters handled discretely by someone mature and respectable. they will hear her name and just automatically hire another attorney. in this business personal reputation is a big part of what attorneys have to sell. take, for example, minneapolis' own lori peterson, the attorney who handled the Hooters case a few years back. do you remember the hullabaloo over her behavior? that stigma is still with her today. in a sense, it may have helped her attract some clients, but for the most part the legal community does regard her with a bit of reserve these days. So again, posing nude=immature and unrespectable. no, it is perceived as being immature and not respectable. perhaps unfair but true. | |
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Ex-Moderator | XxAxX said: CarrieMpls said: So again, posing nude=immature and unrespectable. no, it is perceived as being immature and not respectable. perhaps unfair but true. Right. But again, how do we change those perceptions if we don't fight them? If we simply don't do things we want to do because others will look down on them? If we're worried about what everyone will think? In any case, sounds like she's doing alright and her boss who commented in the second article realized it's nothing to do with her skills as an attorney. Maybe the world isn't as small-minded as we think. [Edited 4/12/07 8:19am] |
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CarrieMpls said: XxAxX said: no, it is perceived as being immature and not respectable. perhaps unfair but true. Right. But again, how do we change those perceptions if we don't fight them? If we simply don't do things we want to do because others will look down on them? If we're worried about what everyone will think? In any case, sounds like she's doing alright and her boss who commented in the second article realized it's nothing to do with her skills as an attorney. Maybe the world isn't as small-minded as we think. [Edited 4/12/07 8:19am] hopefully not. i agree she should be able to do whatever she likes in her own time. | |
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