Ok, I'm sure many of you are not home to catch soap operas or don't get soapnet, but All My Children is the shit! Good shit. The writers teamed up with GLAAD to create a trangender character named Zoe. Zoe first appeared as a rockstar named Zarf who came to town to work on a marketing campaign for a cosmetics company. Zarf had a deep secret, which later came to be that not only was Zarf a woman in a man's body, but she was also a lesbian

Having transgender friends, I was apprehensive about this character and wrote a letter to ABC criticizing them after the first week because Zarf was just too outrageous. Of Course after watching more it was clear why Zarf was being so outrageous

I actually have a friend who is a male-to female trangender lesbian and she had told me how difficult things are for her in her life because of it. Zoe demostrates that difficulty on screen

I am also in love with the actor who plays Zoe, Jeffrey Carlson. He's local boy from Long Beach, CA and he graduated from The Juilliard School. He is a well-known Broadway actor who was in Rosie O'Donnell's production of Taboo. This man outshines everyone he is in the room with and you soo believe him as Zoe Zoe's time on the show ends this month and I hope she leaves with dignity. Try to catch it!
[Edited 5/1/07 0:06am]

Wow, no one has seen this????

SexualHazard said:

OK, this is one thing I truly don't even get at all. Why chop off your dick to be with a woman if you can already get one?! Is it the whole "lesbian thing" like do you really think you are a gay woman inside? Why not be a sensitive man, women would eat that shit up. NO?

I have been kind of really confused by this character, although I haven't really watched AMC on a consistent basis. If you're saying it's well done then I trust you

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

i never really understood that either

I thought this was about the chick in Death Proof.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Gender identity and sexual orientation do not go hand-in-hand. Someone's attraction to a particular gender has nothing to do with the body they feel comfortable in. This character, as well as my real life friend, wants women who loves women. She wants breasts and a vagina also. It makes sense to me. I have also seen female-to male transgender gay men. People automatically assume trans people are straight and they're not

That was also brought up in the show. It's not about getting women, it's about being one
[Edited 4/9/07 16:49pm]

SexualHazard said:

It makes perfect sense. What if you were attracted to men, but felt like your body wasn't the right one? If you change your body do you think the gender you are attracted to will change also? No.

live4lust said:

Sorry to bust your bubble

AMC also featured real trans people in a scene where Zoe goes to a support group. This is an extremely well written and well acted character. Very funny too

live4lust said:

Oh my god....ME TOO! Man, we must still have Grindhouse on the brain.

Scenes allowed by AMC/ABC

Zoe comes out to future girlfriend Bianca:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...H1vGPxD1Mc
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=

Zoe comes out to her mother:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Joqjcho324
http://www.youtube.com/wa...oForww4ts8

Gender support group:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...STWIJvtIfQ

Behind the scenes gender support group podcast #21
http://abc.go.com/fsp/ind...MCPodcast#

Lighthearted moments:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...wCSRLBd4pw
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Sb-hRoQqxw
http://www.youtube.com/wa...P9Q8cT79ps
http://www.youtube.com/wa...UEhPpk05Yk
[Edited 4/10/07 0:29am]

Janfriend said:

I understand this well enough, really I do. It is just odd if you can get women and go to those lengths only to get women! I feel like a chick inside and I identify highly as female but it would be like the same thing for me to become a woman so I can be with men. I can already be with a man!

Janfriend said:

one of my friends was in that scene. we all watched the episode at work.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

So are you saying one should only go through those lengths to get a man?



No, it wouldn't be the same because you don't have a vagina and obviously don't feel like you need one nor does it seem like you've contemplated suicide because of your gender indentity. Once again, it has nothing to do with getting women. It has nothing to do with getting a date or getting laid. It has nothing to do with highly indentifying. It has to do with feeling you're in the wrong body. It's looking in the mirror and feeling the outside does not match the inside.

A lot of trans people already have partners, husbands, and wives that stand by them. Some relationships die because of it. Some trans people stay single. It's not about sex or a romantic relationship
[Edited 4/10/07 16:33pm]

madartista said:

Was it Andy?

Janfriend said:

madartista said:

She's interviewed in the podcast link

I totally forgot to watch this.


M

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

BOO!!

There's a group of us obsessed with Zoe. I can send you whatever you want to see

Side note: Most of the negativity towards this character comes from the gay community

Janfriend said:

That would be cute! Send me a good episode.

M

I'll have to try and catch this show.

Zoe's my favorite porn model

IAmNotSpats said:

Hey man, don't be disrespecting Zoe up in this bitch!

psychodelicide said:

She's gone, but I'll send you some clips

Janfriend said:

Okay, cool.

he's a tremendous actor. we saw him in taboo on broadway.

Janfriend said:

I've heard it said that"LGBT" isn't only an acronym, it's also the pecking order.