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Reply #120 posted 09/17/02 12:28pm

applekisses

If you could attend a dinner party with five people of your choosing who would they be and why?
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Reply #121 posted 09/17/02 12:32pm

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Do you believe that technological advances are really useful in a real sense, or do they only contribute to a climate of avaricious corporate marketing and blind consumerism?

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Reply #122 posted 09/17/02 12:45pm

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Do any more org members have questions for our esteemed guest? He is away at the moment but he will be back soon to answer all your questions, so keep them coming in.
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Reply #123 posted 09/17/02 12:46pm

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If you could only utter one phrase for the rest of your life, what would that phrase be?
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Reply #124 posted 09/17/02 1:04pm

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Are you really a pompous ass?
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Reply #125 posted 09/17/02 1:16pm

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IceNine said:

Rank the following bands in order of your preference:


The Beatles
The Smiths
Oasis
The Cure
Suede
Depeche Mode
Echo and the Bunnymen
The Only Ones
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Reply #126 posted 09/17/02 1:18pm

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sag10 said:

Are you really a pompous ass?


I'm convinced this is all a big misunderstanding and that the fellas were actually saying "pump his ass" in a very encouraging way.
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Reply #127 posted 09/17/02 1:22pm

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applekisses said:

If you could attend a dinner party with five people of your choosing who would they be and why?


I hate dinner parties, so I guess I'd pick five hot guys in flannel shirts or leather in a hurry to get out of there and out of their clothes.
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Reply #128 posted 09/17/02 1:37pm

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IceNine said:

Do you believe that technological advances are really useful in a real sense, or do they only contribute to a climate of avaricious corporate marketing and blind consumerism?

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Technology is certainly perverse. The idea that we would save time and have more hours of leisure was very naive. And for every meaningful gadget or process, there were 20 or more that just made things a bit more organized and that you could have done without. For instance, I could buy a fairly cheap projector for my presentations, or I could buy an expensive plasma screen. If my competitor has a plasma screen and it seems to help him win over customers, it makes business sense for me to get it. I don't think I absolutely need it, but if it does help the other guy, I'll feel a pressure to have it too. If I'm just interacting with colleagues inside an organization, a projector will be fine. Competition tends to make you get the new stuff, but once everyone has it, it's no longer such an edge, and we all start looking for the next big thing. "Mindless consumerism" can really be "survival instinct" in some businesses, so it's a tough question.

So yes. No... maybe.

Technology has served me extremely well.
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Reply #129 posted 09/17/02 1:45pm

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slm4m said:

If you could only utter one phrase for the rest of your life, what would that phrase be?


I think I would choose be mute most of the time, but be able to yell "HELP!" at the top of my lungs. Safety first!

Besides, there's a lot I can say with those hands of mine, not to mention the rest of my body.
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Reply #130 posted 09/17/02 1:47pm

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Aerogram said:

IceNine said:

Do you believe that technological advances are really useful in a real sense, or do they only contribute to a climate of avaricious corporate marketing and blind consumerism?

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[This message was edited Tue Sep 17 12:34:56 PDT 2002 by IceNine]


Technology is certainly perverse. The idea that we would save time and have more hours of leisure was very naive. And for every meaningful gadget or process, there were 20 or more that just made things a bit more organized and that you could have done without. For instance, I could buy a fairly cheap projector for my presentations, or I could buy an expensive plasma screen. If my competitor has a plasma screen and it seems to help him win over customers, it makes business sense for me to get it. I don't think I absolutely need it, but if it does help the other guy, I'll feel a pressure to have it too. If I'm just interacting with colleagues inside an organization, a projector will be fine. Competition tends to make you get the new stuff, but once everyone has it, it's no longer such an edge, and we all start looking for the next big thing. "Mindless consumerism" can really be "survival instinct" in some businesses, so it's a tough question.

So yes. No... maybe.

Technology has served me extremely well.


Here is the core question:

Do you think that technological advances in general have increased the quality of living for the average person, or has the average person only been made to work harder to try to afford the things that allegedly make his life easier? I can understand the business advantages associated with technical advances, but aren't these advantages used to exploit people and create false and unnecessary markets for products that are, for the most part, totally unnecessary and that actually make life worse for the newly created consumer class?

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Reply #131 posted 09/17/02 2:09pm

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IceNine said:

Aerogram said:

IceNine said:

Do you believe that technological advances are really useful in a real sense, or do they only contribute to a climate of avaricious corporate marketing and blind consumerism?

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[This message was edited Tue Sep 17 12:34:56 PDT 2002 by IceNine]


Technology is certainly perverse. The idea that we would save time and have more hours of leisure was very naive. And for every meaningful gadget or process, there were 20 or more that just made things a bit more organized and that you could have done without. For instance, I could buy a fairly cheap projector for my presentations, or I could buy an expensive plasma screen. If my competitor has a plasma screen and it seems to help him win over customers, it makes business sense for me to get it. I don't think I absolutely need it, but if it does help the other guy, I'll feel a pressure to have it too. If I'm just interacting with colleagues inside an organization, a projector will be fine. Competition tends to make you get the new stuff, but once everyone has it, it's no longer such an edge, and we all start looking for the next big thing. "Mindless consumerism" can really be "survival instinct" in some businesses, so it's a tough question.

So yes. No... maybe.

Technology has served me extremely well.


Here is the core question:

Do you think that technological advances in general have increased the quality of living for the average person, or has the average person only been made to work harder to try to afford the things that allegedly make his life easier? I can understand the business advantages associated with technical advances, but aren't these advantages used to exploit people and created false and unnecessary markets for products that are, for the most part, totally unnecessary and that actually make life worse for the newly created consumer class?


It depends if you're talking about the technology glut of the last 20 years or technology through history. There's no question in my mind technology has vastly improved the lives of average people, from very simple things like spear points and food storage techniques to modern medical equipment that finds something that might kill you if left there.

In the last 20 years, we've seen an acceleration in the introduction of new technology. There's a lot of fancy stuff around that can improve some experiences, such a home-theater systems and cell phones. The problem is that so much has been introduced so fast that we have not yet truly learned how to live with it. People are letting their colleagues email them at home at all times, walking down beautiful parks with a stupid cell phone glued to their ear, bringing pagers at concerts, etc. They need to slow down, breath deeply and realize they don't have to let it overtake their lives.

They need some boundaries between them and technology, especially since we will almost certainly have technology inside our bodies soon. As you know, I have this very expensive bionic ear in my head now. It certainly could be a major improvement for me, and I love technology for doing that... but I want technology to respect the fact I'm a human being and not require me to pray at its altar with my time and money..
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Reply #132 posted 09/17/02 2:16pm

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Icenine... you understand you will to conclude this show with a song, don't you?
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Reply #133 posted 09/17/02 2:17pm

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A Prince song...

How about you performing U Got the Lock?
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Reply #134 posted 09/17/02 3:01pm

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Aerogram said:

A Prince song...

How about you performing U Got the Lock?



No Prince songs...

Well, ladies and gentlemen... it has been fun and Aerogram has been a most gracious and giving guest but it is now time to go... we leave you with a song:


You say yes, I say no
You say stop and I say go go go, oh no
You say goodbye and I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero

I say high, you say low
You say why and I say I don't know, oh no
You say goodbye and I say Aero
(Aero goodbye Aero goodbye) Aero Aero
(Aero goodbye) I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero
(Aero goodbye Aero goodbye) Aero Aero
(Aero goodbye) I don't know why you say goodbye
(Aero goodbye) I say Aero/goodbye

Why why why why why why do you say goodbye goodbye, oh no?

You say goodbye and I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero

You say yes (I say yes) I say no (But I may mean no)
You say stop (I can stay) and I say go go go (Till it's time to go), oh
Oh no
You say goodbye and I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero
Aero Aero
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say Aero Aero


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Reply #135 posted 09/17/02 3:12pm

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That really touching. I almost feel like I should leave this place. wink

A e r brick
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Reply #136 posted 09/19/02 10:25am

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Aerogram said:

Natsume :A box of chocolate.

Well aren't you sweet! kiss
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #137 posted 09/19/02 1:33pm

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Natsume said:

Aerogram said:

Natsume :A box of chocolate.

Well aren't you sweet! kiss


Yes I am. smile
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Reply #138 posted 09/19/02 8:34pm

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Aerogram said:

IceNine said:

Which orgers, if any, do you feel have influenced your posting style?


Bart : He's been an enormous influence. Whatever he did, I studied, and then carefully did the opposite.
Wellbeyond : My mentor for debates. Then of course I got more confident and triumphed in the legendary Fact Vs Opinion debate (the one on the old Org).
RD Hull : wow.. I can't reveal what I learned because y'all are not ready.
KLHK : Again, I learned a lot by counter-imitation and sometimes imitation ("BigToe")
Moonbeam Anxiety : I learned you could bite without being mean.
Icenine : I gotta thank him for the "revelations". No, I won't say a word.

I'm forgetting some but this is a pretty good list.


About that particular response, I would just like to clarify that Mister RDHull only influenced me in the bestest way possible. If someone read something sordid into my cryptic answers, get yo head outta the gutter. It's nothing like that.

The same goes for Mister Icenine. The "revelations" were not of a personal nature, but of a metaphysical, philosophical -- really deep! -- kind.
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Reply #139 posted 09/19/02 8:35pm

TailGate

AeroGram...whip (4 times) lick
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