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PrintableNDRU said: meow85 said: Maybe the difficulty you're having with this is that you are confusing sex with gender. A person's sex -what their chromosomes say they are is static and obviously can't be changed, but a person's gender -their mental and emotional state of ebing man or woman -can be. Sometimes the gender just doesn't match the sex, and it's really just more cost-effective, practical, and simple to rearrange the body to match the mind rather than the mind to match the body. It's true I don't quite get it, but that's okay. I don't have to get it, I just have to respect his choice. The issue I have is just that it's a huge change, and I think it's okay for it to take a while to become real in my mind. It's hard to adjust to peoples' changes. People still call me Andy, even though I started going by Andrew in 1991. Then they apologise and make a big deal out of it! 
I know a guy who for years was known as Ricky and tried to get people to call him Rich or Richard instead in the 7th grade. No such luck. He's 22 and still gets Ricky from most people.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: NDRU said: It's true I don't quite get it, but that's okay. I don't have to get it, I just have to respect his choice. The issue I have is just that it's a huge change, and I think it's okay for it to take a while to become real in my mind. It's hard to adjust to peoples' changes. People still call me Andy, even though I started going by Andrew in 1991. Then they apologise and make a big deal out of it!
I know a guy who for years was known as Ricky and tried to get people to call him Rich or Richard instead in the 7th grade. No such luck. He's 22 and still gets Ricky from most people. I feel for poor Ricky...ooh I mean Richard! My Legacy
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NDRU said: heartbeatocean said: Actually, I'm more attracted to him now that he's a guy.  It's funny because he's a guy guy too, not one of those effeminate types.  Maybe that's part (only part, I know) of the reason for doing it--that a woman who becomes a man is not intested in a lesbian lifestyle, but a heterosexual lifestyle as a man? I have no idea which way my friend swings now (or before actually). But from what I've heard, some people simply feel they were born the wrong sex. It's much deeper than wanting a certain lifestyle, I think. It has to do with who they are inside and being able to express that. It usually becomes something so unavoidable that they have to do something about it, or go crazy maybe. It's a really deep thing. It's similar to someone being gay -- they can't just ignore it without creating all kinds of havoc to their emotional and mental well being, not to mention their relationships down the road, and they aren't simply gay because they "prefer the lifestyle". Hence the difference between "sexual orientation" (the PC term) vs. "sexual preference". It's more than a preference. | |
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heartbeatocean said: NDRU said: Maybe that's part (only part, I know) of the reason for doing it--that a woman who becomes a man is not intested in a lesbian lifestyle, but a heterosexual lifestyle as a man? I have no idea which way my friend swings now (or before actually). But from what I've heard, some people simply feel they were born the wrong sex. It's much deeper than wanting a certain lifestyle, I think. It has to do with who they are inside and being able to express that. It usually becomes something so unavoidable that they have to do something about it, or go crazy maybe. It's a really deep thing. It's similar to someone being gay -- they can't just ignore it without creating all kinds of havoc to their emotional and mental well being, not to mention their relationships down the road, and they aren't simply gay because they "prefer the lifestyle". Hence the difference between "sexual orientation" (the PC term) vs. "sexual preference". It's more than a preference. Yeah, I'm sure it's deeper than just "who do you want to date." But actually that's a fairly fundamental issue. I wouldn't be surprised if that factors into it. I would imagine there's difference between being a woman dating a woman and being a man dating a woman (or any other combinations), even if that does sound a little sexist or un-PC. I'm only speculating; I don't claim to know anything. My Legacy
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