I don't understand why a woman deserves to have a diamond before she marries a man. Can someone please explain this to me.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I got one for my birthday, after 7 years of being married, he said "he had to be sure first, before spending that kind of money" romantic eh!

I don't know. I'm all for common law marriage. You go in with you own shit and you leave with you own shit. Screw all that proposing and wedding stuff. Just my

ZombieKitten said:

I actually very much agree with this! There is a sense of entitlement from women and it turns marriage into a commodity rather than a notion of love and romance. It is not romantic to have to sacrifice 3+ months of your earnings to give a woman a status symbol, especially when most women won't consider marriage without a diamond!

i don't understand why folks need a diamond or anything of the sort to be married, period.

My ex wife LOST her wedding ring.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Yeah, and more importantly... what happened to dowries? If the wife-to-be expects a diamond ring then she better be packing some goods come wedding day.

if i wear my grandmother's diamond how is that a bribe? am i still materialistic if i wear it?
it would be very symbolic for me.

if i don't wear her diamond i still would like to wear one. because to me it represents the strength of a bond between two people. it's not about the size or how fuckin flawless (or not) it is. it is alllll about the symbolism. if i'm a greedy bitch for that then so be it


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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

AND after putting up with him for 7 years I sure deserved it!!!!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I turned my fiance down the first time he proposed.
When we talked about getting marriend after that, He said that he had to go find another ring that I wasnt getting the first one, I told him that I didnt want a big expensive ring, that something small that doesnt stand out would be perfect... He didnt listen...
I dont think that its not so much a bribe as it is them wanting to show you how much you mean to them, how much they love you.
Diamonds are the strongest stone, I dont know about anyone else but to my Pat it was a symbol of how strong his love was for me.

emm said:

Ok, so you weren't bribing but your grandmother was!



I see nothing wrong with a family hand down. Not at all. And I don't think a diamond is symbolic for shit. It's entitlement and pure greed at the root of it. Commitment is in the heart and marriage has nothing to do with what kind of material possession you give someone to enter into that with you. It shouldn't anyway. If gay marriage is ever legal in my lifetime I will refuse to wear a diamond!

meggy said:

Aren't they already doing that by asking for you to marry them?

It doesn't have to be a diamond

Nice and handy

PANDURITO said:

Fuck that, I want a ring








Seriously though, if I were proposed to I think I would probably be thinking, "Umm, where's the ring baby?" partly b/c I'm so trained/conditioned that that's how a proposal goes down I'd have to take deep breaths before announcing my engagement to people b/c the first question (from women, at least) seems to be, "Lemme see the ring!" followed by some look of pity/concern/questioning when they find out I don't have one. A ring would make that stuff easier (WHY that stuff matters to me I'm still figuring out)...

That said not getting the ring off the bat obviously doesn't mean he'd love me any less or would be any less serious about wanting to be married, it all depends on the bond between 2 people - fuck a symbol & others expectations when it really comes down to it. BUT I'm honest enough to admit that I'm shallow enough to want that fucker, I just would...

Greed can be a part of it for some.

But it's also tradition and romance. I don't think it's necessary, it's just a nice bonus. If it was the man I wanted to marry, I wouldn't need a diamond.

I'm normally the least traditional girl you'll find around. But this is one tradition I find romantic and beautiful.

I don't even wear much for jewelry. But this would be one thing I would.

CalhounSq said:

See, that's what I mean. I have seen an elevator full of chicks turn into the fucking Lion King and I want to just punch any chick in the face that looks down on someone or feels they are better than someone because they have a bigger rock.

Can anyone say S-H-A-L-L-O-W!

I mean, I love you!

My mom's into big fancy weddings, but she's talked about it so much that I don't know if I ever wanna get married now Regardless. I kinda reject anything being forced on me

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Someone'sssss jealousssss...

gemini13 said:

No way. I think this is nothing but a money grubbing free for all

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Does it make you feel better to know that I bought my ring?

What if it's not a diamond ring? What if it's a ruby or an emerald engagement ring? Is it still bad?

PANDURITO said:

A diamond is a useless rock in my opinion.


I mean, of what value is it, other than what the industry has manage to convince us?


You can't style your hair with it or anything. Fucking useless if you ask me.

CalhounSq said:

WHY do women do that?! my friend recently got engaged and my first reaction was to congratulate and be excited for her, but i noticed a lot of people stopping by our dorm just to see her ring & squeal over it. IMO, i think that response is a little tacky & comes off as though the ring's the main focus of it all, rather than how great it is that they're getting married. it's all from societal conditioning, i guess. i don't disagree with it because as a tradition it's nice, but fixating on the size/quality/etc of the ring and having to have it immediately to accept a proposal isn't something i'd do.

gemini13 said:

YES!

estelle81 said:

What about a nice opal or pearl?

meggy said:

I love pearls.

estelle81 said:

On the neck?

i suppose i'm one of the people who are kinna outta the norm--while growing up, none of my folks gave a shit about the usual traditional stuff about weddings and marriage and all that stuff. nobody ever bugged about wanting a ring or needing to have this and that...they just had their significant others, and that was more than enough for them. maybe more people need to look at it the same way.

cooing and gurgling over a ring is just really sick to me.