jerseykrs said: Imago said: Have you ever considered that you may not deserve to be happy in your career? I find that taking that attitude sometimes help me do my job.
you are completely right, and I actually agree. But my ex wife is challenging our split custody in court as a direct result of me being away so much, something I've only done for work with no reward from my employer. Wouldn't I be better off just finding ANOTHER position to not be happy in, yet still be home and keep split custody of my children? Hell, a new engineer starts on monday, and they're giving her MY office and kicking me to the front desk or a co workers office, or the break room. I mean, cmon dude, that is NOT professional at all. I hate Candy. *HATE* her. Yeah, I would seek a job that denies her the ability to make that challege even if it wasn't a job I was crazy about. But that's just me. I'm currently in a job I don't like, becuase of the benefits and pay, which is a shame. I always thought of myself as someone who followed my passions, yet I've ended up someone who became addicted to stability. | |
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Imago said: jerseykrs said: you are completely right, and I actually agree. But my ex wife is challenging our split custody in court as a direct result of me being away so much, something I've only done for work with no reward from my employer. Wouldn't I be better off just finding ANOTHER position to not be happy in, yet still be home and keep split custody of my children? Hell, a new engineer starts on monday, and they're giving her MY office and kicking me to the front desk or a co workers office, or the break room. I mean, cmon dude, that is NOT professional at all. I hate Candy. *HATE* her. Yeah, I would seek a job that denies her the ability to make that challege even if it wasn't a job I was crazy about. But that's just me. I'm currently in a job I don't like, becuase of the benefits and pay, which is a shame. I always thought of myself as someone who followed my passions, yet I've ended up someone who became addicted to stability. let's go into business together. You provide the IT support, I'll provide the threats. | |
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jerseykrs said: Imago said: I hate Candy. *HATE* her. Yeah, I would seek a job that denies her the ability to make that challege even if it wasn't a job I was crazy about. But that's just me. I'm currently in a job I don't like, becuase of the benefits and pay, which is a shame. I always thought of myself as someone who followed my passions, yet I've ended up someone who became addicted to stability. let's go into business together. You provide the IT support, I'll provide the threats. IT is not a stable job anymore. You can outsource almost anything but local destkop support, but those positions don't pay more than 40/50k anymore. It's far too easy to just hire a kid out of college or willing to work for beer money in those positions now. And the hire end jobs are easily outsourced to India now. I need to rethink my entire life goals really. . [Edited 3/20/07 12:35pm] | |
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Imago said: jerseykrs said: let's go into business together. You provide the IT support, I'll provide the threats. IT is not a stable job anymore. You can outsource almost anything but local destkop support, but those positions don't pay more than 40/50k anymore. It's far too easy to just hire a kid out of college or willing to work for beer money in those positions now. And the hire end jobs are easily outsourced to India now. I need to rethink my entire life goals really. . [Edited 3/20/07 12:35pm] You can come work for me bitch! I am recruiting right now. | |
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jerseykrs said: should I inform them of the reasons WHY I am leaving or should I just explain to them I am moving on? I do not wish to leave on bad terms at all, even though there are things I am upset over.
If you're upset about how you've been treated then you probably need to get it out of your system. I would explain how I feel when I hand over the resignation letter (which should just be very brief and to the point). HOWEVER, for your own sake it's important to make sure first that you have at least one person who is willing to provide good references for you in the future. And equally important if not more so; get that person to write you a reference letter ASAP. You never know when they might leave their jobs too and suddenly you find yourself with no friendly connections in the company. Then you'll be happy to have that letter. | |
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Imago said: Have you ever considered that you may not deserve to be happy in your career? I find that taking that attitude sometimes help me do my job.
Does that work with romantic relationships as well? Seems like it could make much of life quite a bit simpler. oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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A letter is the tried-and-true approach.
If they'll want to meet with you, they'll set up an appointment easily enough. | |
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mdiver said: Imago said: IT is not a stable job anymore. You can outsource almost anything but local destkop support, but those positions don't pay more than 40/50k anymore. It's far too easy to just hire a kid out of college or willing to work for beer money in those positions now. And the hire end jobs are easily outsourced to India now. I need to rethink my entire life goals really. . [Edited 3/20/07 12:35pm] You can come work for me bitch! I am recruiting right now. For project managers? 80k+ , 401k plan, health and dental, as well as vacation, and I may consider it. But what is it that you do? I don't perform special duties underneath the boss's desk you know. | |
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Imago said: mdiver said: You can come work for me bitch! I am recruiting right now. For project managers? 80k+ , 401k plan, health and dental, as well as vacation, and I may consider it. But what is it that you do? I don't perform special duties underneath the boss's desk you know. No mate sorry i am looking for CCIE's and CCNA's and you gotta comme to sunny England. I do have a vacancy under my dest though if that is of interest? | |
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CarrieMpls said: jerseykrs said: should I inform them of the reasons WHY I am leaving or should I just explain to them I am moving on? I do not wish to leave on bad terms at all, even though there are things I am upset over.
If it's a good company, they'll set up an "exit" interview with you, to find out why they couldn't retain you as such a fabulous employee. I had to have one of those once | |
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Last time, I quit a job, I called from a cell phone from out the bush and gave a 2 days ago notice.
Don't ask me. Don't ya just usually take 2 weeks vacation for the notice or whatever? | |
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Just burn down the office. Once you have no office, you can't work there anymore. | |
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Imago said: jerseykrs said: let's go into business together. You provide the IT support, I'll provide the threats. IT is not a stable job anymore. You can outsource almost anything but local destkop support, but those positions don't pay more than 40/50k anymore. It's far too easy to just hire a kid out of college or willing to work for beer money in those positions now. And the hire end jobs are easily outsourced to India now. I need to rethink my entire life goals really. . [Edited 3/20/07 12:35pm] My bro in law works IT with a concentration in network security protocols....he said thats where the money lies nowadays..... jus' a tip.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot) the video for the above... http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related | |
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I always said that if I won the lotto, my two week notice to the Army would be nothing more than showing up for work in my kevlar helmet, body armor, and boots....nothing else.....I'd jump up on my commander's desk, junk justa danglin'....and tell him flat out that I quit....!!
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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SureThing said: Last time, I quit a job, I called from a cell phone from out the bush and gave a 2 days ago notice.
Don't ask me. Don't ya just usually take 2 weeks vacation for the notice or whatever? | |
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reneGade20 said: I always said that if I won the lotto, my two week notice to the Army would be nothing more than showing up for work in my kevlar helmet, body armor, and boots....nothing else.....I'd jump up on my commander's desk, junk justa danglin'....and tell him flat out that I quit....!!
dont they put you in prison for that kind of shit are you ready for submission
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reneGade20 said: Imago said: IT is not a stable job anymore. You can outsource almost anything but local destkop support, but those positions don't pay more than 40/50k anymore. It's far too easy to just hire a kid out of college or willing to work for beer money in those positions now. And the hire end jobs are easily outsourced to India now. I need to rethink my entire life goals really. . [Edited 3/20/07 12:35pm] My bro in law works IT with a concentration in network security protocols....he said thats where the money lies nowadays..... jus' a tip.... yes security is where the money is, for sure are you ready for submission
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eraclito said: reneGade20 said: I always said that if I won the lotto, my two week notice to the Army would be nothing more than showing up for work in my kevlar helmet, body armor, and boots....nothing else.....I'd jump up on my commander's desk, junk justa danglin'....and tell him flat out that I quit....!!
dont they put you in prison for that kind of shit No....I'd probably have to go to mental health for a month or so before they kick me out.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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superspaceboy said: jerseykrs said: understood. How do I word such a letter? What do I do, just leave it on his desk? On a friday??? Date Dear So & So, This letter is to notify that I have taken a position at another firm and I will be terminating my position of _____ as of DATE. I appreciate the opportunity that I have had being employed by (your firm name). I plan on finishing up any projects I have and if time allows will train someone else for my position. Sincerely, Jerskrs I wouldn't even bother saying you're going to another job, or that you'll train anybody else - if they want you to train a replacement they'll say so. Don't bother with any unrequired information. Also "Dear etc" is too informal for a resignation letter. I'd go for something like : To whom it may concern, (or else just the name of the person to whom the letter is directed - HR manager or whatever). I write to inform you of my decision to resign from the position of _____ with immediate effect. In accordance with the terms of my contract I offer a notice period of _____, resulting in a leaving date of ___/___/_____. (if you feel like being nice you could also put in something like the following, although it's not strictly necessary - ) I would like to take this opportunity to thank __company name__ and my colleagues, my time here has been a valuable experience which I appreciate greatly. Yours sincerely, [your name here] But that's just the way I'd do it. Good luck in your future endeavours ! Lemmy, Bowie, Prince, Leonard. RIP. | |
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jerseykrs said: XxAxX said: i've heard that burning bridges like that is not a good idea. the company will not change anything because of your feedback and it might affect their recommendation of you in future. sad, but true. yeah, that's what I'm thinking also, I guess I'm just looking for others feedback. NEVER, EVER burn bridges, man. It may come back to haunt you later on. Take the high road and leave on good terms. | |
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my two cents are that you never want to burn any bridges. I'd do it personally, and allow them to ask why you're leaving. Be brutally honest, and you'll feel better inside AND you will leave with a clear conscience. IN addition the boss will know he can always count on you to be honest, so in the future, when someones asks him about you as a reference..he'll give you a good one.
unless he has one of those internet monitoring programs installed, and he checks what you actually do all day. then you're fucked. | |
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to break on good terms:
ask for a meeting with your supervisor and boss and submit your two week notice letter. to break on bad terms: say pay me.I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Just write a letter, keep it short and sweet and informative.. leave it on good terms and how happy you were to work for the company but you feel you need to move on, to further your career, and or you have been given more challenges
in my line of work its so small and incestuous, you cannot afford to piss someone off cos the likelihood of you working with them again is so big.. so dont go into too much detail, just say you intend to hand in your notice.. but leave on a good note.. [Edited 3/22/07 17:34pm] if sexy was a colour it would be red | |
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I just did this recently actually and started a new position last week.
I typed up a resignation letter and handed it to them in person. It was kind of awkward at first because they were kind of caught off guard, but we all talked for a bit and it was cool. Like others mentioned on here, don't burn bridges. Chances are, they probabbly already understand why you are leaving, or will figure it out after reading your letter and thinking it over. No need to type up a list of complaints, just explain that you are ready to move onto something else, and that you were offered a position somewhere and accepted it. | |
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Definitely write your resignation in an official letter. You don't need to give details of why or where you're going, but I would give it to your supervisor in person, that way you know s/he got it.
Dear (Sucky Boss), This letter is to inform you that I am resigning my position of (kick ass employee). My last day will be mm/dd/yyyy. (I like what asylumutopia put so I'm copying now): I would like to take this opportunity to thank (abc company) and my colleagues, my time here has been a valuable experience which I appreciate greatly. Sincerely, Jerseykrs I hated my last job so much; they treated me and my co-workers like absolute shit, and they screwed me over big time after I had had my exit interview--the day before my last day. So I wrote the HR director a two page letter explaining to them exactly how disappointed I was with the way they treated not only me, but all of their employees; and I haven't set foot in that museum since (I refuse to.) It was a risk to "burn that bridge" b/c the museum world is small, but I knew I would never use anyone in HR as a reference (and they are 'lifers' at that place), my supervisor hated it too and left shortly after me, and it was such a horrible place that I would never ever consider working there again. BUT I wouldn't recommend doing that. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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