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Boundaries Of Love & Lust Love and Lust. Prince pondered them his entire career. (they both have 4 letters, but are entirely different words! DOH!)It is something most of us know about, think about, dream about.
We all have love/sex lives and desires. To what extent do they connect? Some of us just like the vanilla stuff, others just like the extreme stuff, again others want best of both worlds, like me. How did these tendencies develop in YOUR case? Were they sprung on you by others? Did you develop them yourself and how? | |
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Huey, shoudln't you be devoting your time to like, oh i don't know...drinking green beer and celebrating our ONE day where others around the world even know Ireland is on the map?
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Good topic..I will need to ponder this a bit and get back to you..
though I can say I have always wanted both- love, lust, connection.. I used to settle for one or the other because I never thought I could have both... | |
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liberation said: Huey, shoudln't you be devoting your time to like, oh i don't know...drinking green beer and celebrating our ONE day where others around the world even know Ireland is on the map?
The drinking beer I did yesterday. So sodd it. And St Patrick's Day is SO American. And I just do Cuban holidays these days. | |
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HamsterHuey said: How did these tendencies develop in YOUR case? Were they sprung on you by others? Did you develop them yourself and how?
In my case I had two bf's, one really naughty, the other somewhat repressed. The first pushed my borders, on many subjects (let's say; candlewax on nipples) but wanted to take me places I wasn't ready to go yet. The second was on many levels still deep in the closet, so I took it easy. In this case it was me who pushed the borders. And lately, as I have been single for five years, I have searched for my own borders again, as I did not really get what I wanted, sensually. To me, a little play is fun. I am moving back into a somewhat sensual world more build on exploring borders of my sexuality and it is taking me places I enjoy immensely. But the BEST part is when you can explore those borders with a special person; share the sexual part AND the sensual. This is what happened to me the last week... I just walk around with a grin. I love it. | |
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Shanti1 said: Good topic..I will need to ponder this a bit and get back to you..
though I can say I have always wanted both- love, lust, connection.. I used to settle for one or the other because I never thought I could have both... I did too. Esp in my second relationship. I was threading so lightlyto not spook him away, I forgot about myself and it became all stale. | |
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Shanti1 said: I used to settle for one or the other because I never thought I could have both...
same here. in fact, i still do that. it's just kinda hard to ask someone you've just met and have a connection with if he's into the same fetsish stuff you are, lol. although, i have to say that i think a love connection is more important to me than simply a lusty one. best would be, surely, to combine them. but i guess i've always been a bit weary to do so since i'm not convinced of my own fetishes. the stuff i've tried usually leaves me wanting nothing after i've tried it. some stuff i wanted for years left me feeling all but satisfied the minute i tried it. anyway, most people are too damn stitched up on their own hang ups and agendas to open up and admit to what they'd want or like in bed. i guess i'm still looking for my own jerry hall, you know the whole chef in the kitchen and slut in the bedroom type. someone who'll bake me a raisin cake in the afternoon and tie me to the bed in the evening and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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IstenSzek said: Shanti1 said: I used to settle for one or the other because I never thought I could have both...
same here. in fact, i still do that. it's just kinda hard to ask someone you've just met and have a connection with if he's into the same fetsish stuff you are, lol. although, i have to say that i think a love connection is more important to me than simply a lusty one. best would be, surely, to combine them. but i guess i've always been a bit weary to do so since i'm not convinced of my own fetishes. the stuff i've tried usually leaves me wanting nothing after i've tried it. some stuff i wanted for years left me feeling all but satisfied the minute i tried it. anyway, most people are too damn stitched up on their own hang ups and agendas to open up and admit to what they'd want or like in bed. i guess i'm still looking for my own jerry hall, you know the whole chef in the kitchen and slut in the bedroom type. someone who'll bake me a raisin cake in the afternoon and tie me to the bed in the evening well I think that is not too much to ask! | |
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HamsterHuey said: Shanti1 said: Good topic..I will need to ponder this a bit and get back to you..
though I can say I have always wanted both- love, lust, connection.. I used to settle for one or the other because I never thought I could have both... I did too. Esp in my second relationship. I was threading so lightlyto not spook him away, I forgot about myself and it became all stale. I did the same thing with my marriage...now I am completing my divorce papers... 10 years of staleness- bye- bye!!! | |
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Shanti1 said: IstenSzek said: same here. in fact, i still do that. it's just kinda hard to ask someone you've just met and have a connection with if he's into the same fetsish stuff you are, lol. although, i have to say that i think a love connection is more important to me than simply a lusty one. best would be, surely, to combine them. but i guess i've always been a bit weary to do so since i'm not convinced of my own fetishes. the stuff i've tried usually leaves me wanting nothing after i've tried it. some stuff i wanted for years left me feeling all but satisfied the minute i tried it. anyway, most people are too damn stitched up on their own hang ups and agendas to open up and admit to what they'd want or like in bed. i guess i'm still looking for my own jerry hall, you know the whole chef in the kitchen and slut in the bedroom type. someone who'll bake me a raisin cake in the afternoon and tie me to the bed in the evening well I think that is not too much to ask! me too! i guess i should just go to some rubber bar and ask guys if they have both a sling and a desire to adopt a chinese baby and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Shanti1 said: HamsterHuey said: I did too. Esp in my second relationship. I was threading so lightlyto not spook him away, I forgot about myself and it became all stale. I did the same thing with my marriage...now I am completing my divorce papers... 10 years of staleness- bye- bye!!! Good on you, hun! The feeling of freedom feels scary, good or both? And how do you go about mending both lust and love in future relationships, be they for short or long term? My last two love experiences budded out of lust. | |
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IstenSzek said: Shanti1 said: well I think that is not too much to ask! me too! i guess i should just go to some rubber bar and ask guys if they have both a sling and a desire to adopt a chinese baby why not...I am sure there is someone out there looking for the same things that you are..it is about knowing our needs, desires and wants and not settling because we think it is not possible or that we do not deserve it. | |
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Shanti1 said: not settling because we think it is not possible or that we do not deserve it.
True! I am in my 30's! Enough with all that insecurity stuff! | |
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Shanti1 said: IstenSzek said: me too! i guess i should just go to some rubber bar and ask guys if they have both a sling and a desire to adopt a chinese baby why not...I am sure there is someone out there looking for the same things that you are..it is about knowing our needs, desires and wants and not settling because we think it is not possible or that we do not deserve it. so very true! and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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I love and lust myself.. did this morning anyway.. | |
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HamsterHuey said: Love and Lust. Prince pondered them his entire career. (they both have 4 letters, but are entirely different words! DOH!)It is something most of us know about, think about, dream about.
We all have love/sex lives and desires. To what extent do they connect? Some of us just like the vanilla stuff, others just like the extreme stuff, again others want best of both worlds, like me. How did these tendencies develop in YOUR case? Were they sprung on you by others? Did you develop them yourself and how? First off- I do not like vanilla unless there is some kind of warm gooey caramel drizzled on it with nuts... Secondly..I guess my tendencies came from past experiences in my life probably and some from childhood I suppose. I have always been an emotional person, quiet and shy and only open up really when I am one on one with someone. I am usually reserved by nature and untrusting of ppl to some degree and very trusting of animals. I guess like allof us here- we can relate to the whole love/lust thing that Prince ponders. I think that is what makes us fans to some degree. I beleive we all have some kind of freak in us but some are more in touch with it then others. When I say freak- I do not mean it in a bad way. I think it is important to know what kind of freak you are and find that someone that you can share your inner freak with. I think it is possible to find someone you love with all your heart that you want to share your freaky side with. That makes the love so much richer- I think. | |
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Shanti1 said: some kind of warm gooey caramel drizzled on it with nuts...
Hehehe. This so speaks to me, somehow. You said NUTS. | |
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HamsterHuey said: Shanti1 said: some kind of warm gooey caramel drizzled on it with nuts...
Hehehe. This so speaks to me, somehow. You said NUTS. I thought of you as I typed it [Edited 3/17/07 7:01am] | |
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Shanti1 said: HamsterHuey said: Hehehe. This so speaks to me, somehow. You said NUTS. I thought of you as I typed it Hehehe. It is so weird that you thinkof Orgers when you read words like Muse or Anxiety. | |
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HamsterHuey said: Shanti1 said: I thought of you as I typed it Hehehe. It is so weird that you thinkof Orgers when you read words like Muse or Anxiety. or gooey and nuts... | |
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HamsterHuey said: Shanti1 said: I thought of you as I typed it Hehehe. It is so weird that you thinkof Orgers when you read words like Muse or Anxiety. lol.. I know esp when you are chatting in public aand ppl can overhear the conversation.. | |
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REDFEATHERS said: HamsterHuey said: Hehehe. It is so weird that you thinkof Orgers when you read words like Muse or Anxiety. lol.. I know esp when you are chatting in public aand ppl can overhear the conversation.. "Have you seen Gooey yet? He's with Anxiety." Like that? | |
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HamsterHuey said: REDFEATHERS said: lol.. I know esp when you are chatting in public aand ppl can overhear the conversation.. "Have you seen Gooey yet? He's with Anxiety." Like that? yeah and bananacologne lost it last night etc etc it sounds real normal when you are talking, but when you relay it back and see it from someone elses perspective it sounds real crazy lol | |
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And now I've missed Herman - come back! I'm not sure how to answer this thread. Very interesting topic, but a big one. | |
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REDFEATHERS said: HamsterHuey said: "Have you seen Gooey yet? He's with Anxiety." Like that? yeah and bananacologne lost it last night etc etc it sounds real normal when you are talking, but when you relay it back and see it from someone elses perspective it sounds real crazy lol So true. "...blah blah blah... Muse2NoPharoah...blah blah blah..." and they'll say "What's their name??" and I'll say "Erm, Karen". (for example) . [Edited 3/17/07 9:10am] | |
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Well, at least Huey and Herman are close enough...
And hello sexy bald fellow. | |
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REDFEATHERS said: I love and lust myself.. did this morning anyway..
I tried but it just wasn't rocking it for me enough. I had tea instead. | |
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Cloudbuster said: REDFEATHERS said: I love and lust myself.. did this morning anyway..
I tried but it just wasn't rocking it for me enough. I had tea instead. What kind of tea? | |
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HamsterHuey said: Cloudbuster said: I tried but it just wasn't rocking it for me enough. I had tea instead.
What kind of tea? Man tea. | |
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Cloudbuster said: HamsterHuey said: What kind of tea? Man tea. So, sweaty and salty, huh? | |
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