Anx said:

It is MY job to pay them? Am I getting part of the profit at the restaurant? Did I tell the people to go work for 3 bucks an hour? No. I REFUSE!

What's with the non-tippers on this thread? Y'all some rude mf's

Dine in the drive-thru, won'tcha?

CalhounSq said:

I do know. And it s WRONG. I don't understand, how its legal to pay less than minimum wage.

SureThing said:

if you are dining at a place with waitstaff, YES. it IS IS IS your job to help pay them. that's how it works. waiters' pay is dependent on tips.

if ya don't like it, don't go to restaurants with waiters! just go to places with counter service or order carryout.

meanwhile...you know they spit in your food, right? and that's if they're feeling gentle.

SureThing said:

Restaurants are a tip-based industry. I don't know all the legal ins & outs but they look @ your sales do some kind of averaging of what they figure you made in tips & subtract it from the paycheck (or some kind of wacko math that allows the manager to hand out these piddly checks from week to week). It's fucked up, & not tipping while knowing those circumstances is MORE fucked up

I disagree.

I'm paying for my food, and I'm giving 2 bucks.

No disrespect to the waiters/watiresses, but I can afford 2 bucks. Thats all.

CalhounSq said:

when i was a waiter and we had regular customers who were known for tipping poorly, we'd argue over who'd have to wait on them, and whoever got stuck with them would make those customers the lowest priority of all the tables.

our managers would yell at us for this usually, but if we were REALLY busy, they'd let it slide.

and like i said earlier, when a waiter is in a bad mood, there's nothing like taking out one's frustrations on bad tipping customers...via their food.

SureThing said:

you can afford groceries and cookware, right?

Anx said:

So yous are pissed at the costumers and not your boss? The one who is SUPPOSED to be paying you?

Anx said:

I never did it myself but I've seen people do some FOUL shit to customers food - spitting in pasta/beverages, dropping steaks on the NASTY kitchen floor And that could just be b/c they don't like your attitude that day

SureThing said:

it's not the boss's fault! it's how the industry works.

when you take on a job as a waiter (at least in america), you do it for the tips. the plus is, you go home with your paycheck for the day, in cash. the minus is, well, customers like you.

Anx said:

Dude, do not EVEN, be like that.

Look, yeah, I can afford that, its a neccesity.

Going out to eat is a luxury, and I appreciate the workers, but I don't feel like its my place to pay the help. I didn't hire them. Why isn't the owner paying them. Or better yet, charge more, and pay the help a little more. WTF?

SureThing said:

You're not getting it. It's the INDUSTRY that would have to change, not the boss. & as the industry stands now the waiters get paid from their tips. So if you know that & still choose to tip $2 no matter what the tab, you're not giving much of a shit about a person just trying to do their job in that industry

It's fine when it's in line w/ the tab - maybe you're eating @ super cheap places??

To be perfectly honest it really depends on the service I get.

When getting my hair done, I have been known to leave tremendous tips.. but I know the people there and it is a real posh salon, and they give me more than the normal service.

Taxis, yeah quite a bit.. restaurants yes too

In the states I always tip.

But it has been known if I have had a shit time or the person got a bad attitude, they can be tipless and out of a job too.. sooooo

CalhounSq said:

This is true, but that really has nothing to do with the tip for me anyways.

I'm not trying to be a jackass, and like, YEAH, I don't care about them. HAHAHHAHAH Give the help 2 bucks! Let em feed their kids dirt!

No, but I still don't get how the resturant owner is getting away with the costumers paying them and the help.

Not only that, but yes, I AM cheap. Thats why I have the stuff I do have. Cuz we pinch.

SureThing said:

i'm TOTALLY gonna be like that because that's how i was raised! ya can't tip, ya stay in and cook - simple as that! probably better for you anyway.

if you're willing to pay more for your food so they can make more money, what's the difference in tipping them that extra amount? i mean, if you think about it, you come out ahead because you don't have to pay tax on the tip you give.

do you bring your KIDS and leave these $2 tips???

all i'm saying is, don't order lemonade.

CalhounSq said:

If the waiter/waitress is rude, there's no way they're getting a tip. It's their job to give good service. If they give good service they get a good tip. If they give great service, I don't mind giving them a great tip.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Anx said:

In all seriousness, we don't go out to eat that much. And only about half of the time with the kids. And when we take the kids, its not like we go to red lobster (fancy for us) or some shit.

I dunno.

I'm KINDA gettin' what your sayin'.

I'm not even trying to be difficult. But if the resturants can do this why doesn't everyone.

Why doesn't wal mart pay 3 bucks an hr to the cashiers and then let the costumers tip them?

Same with car salesman, and all that.

peterfalconer said:

I understand that I'm talking about the people who intentionally tip low no matter the level of service/quality of the food. And I don't know how it is everywhere so I'm mainly talking about those in the US...

SureThing said:

B/c it's not industry standard that you tip in a drug store But it's a well known standard in restaurants, it's just the way it is.

peterfalconer said:

the only - ONLY - time i've ever tipped poorly is when the waiter has bad attitude. like, if they can't be bothered to lift a finger or if they're so absorbed in a conversation that i get completely forgotten. to be honest, that never happens to me in chicago. in new york, it used to happen ALL THE TIME. but i think they knew they were gonna get rotten tips and they were just there to show off their hairdos to the public or something.

SureThing said:

well, a car salesman gets a commission, which is kind of like a tip, only it's built into the price of your car. some people who work in clothing stores work on commission too, which is why sometimes you get sales associates bugging the hell out of you when you go clothes shopping.

there's a really good explanation of why we tip waiters here:

http://alforno.blogspot.c...e-tip.html

it's kinda long, but it's well-written and very common-sensical.

basically, tipping serves the bottom-line needs of restaurant owners, so the industry has no reason to change its standards.

if you don't tip, i hope you are not a return customer. otherise, you are likely getting a little side order of phlegm with every order. bonus!

Stax said:

OMG, I'm getting rid of old shit & I just came upon these fucking QUIZZES they used to give us @ my 2nd restaurant job What a fucking joke, WHY do I still have this shit after 10 years??

I tip 17%. Movingrightalong.

It is my experience that poor tippers are also the MOST demanding creatures on earth....

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

hell YES

if it was just some schmoe with a book and you could just throw food in their face and they'd leave a dollar tip, that's one thing.

but those demanding MFs who run you ragged then leave a buck fifty for a tip? and worse - COMPLAIN about service to justify their crappy tip?!?

OOOOOH.

i haven't waited tables in about 15 years, and that kind of nonsense STILL gripes my ass!!!

It depends on the service.

The "antagonist-of-the-week" prize goes to SURETHING for the "tip" controversy.



SURETHING: lookup Burger King and Taco Bell the next time you want to eat out and don't have enough money for a tip. Whether you like it or not, tipping is the basis for a waiter/waitress' salary. Unless your bill was like $10 or had really shitty service, then a $2 tip is disgraceful.
And if you do REALLY limit your tips to $2, then refrain to going to the same restaurant again...lest your food contain "special ingredients" the next time you go.